If Mac Goes I Go
These so called “civic groups” are at again. They are demanding that the MacArthur Statue in Inchon be torn down:
Fears of a violent clash mounted Friday after progressive civic groups wanting a statue of U.S. General Douglas MacArthur in Inchon pulled down and conservative groups determined to protect it to the very end announced simultaneous Sunday demonstrations in the city’s Freedom Park.
One pro-unification civic group told police it will hold a rally in front of the MacArthur statue from 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. on Sunday. The gathering, which it expects to attract 100 people, will call for the expulsion of the U.S. military and the toppling of the statue.The group’s chairman Kim Su-nam said rectifying “the vestiges of colonialism and our distorted history must begin with removing the MacArthur statue, which is a symbol of imperialism.” He said the group would form a coalition with other groups from Inchon to bring down the statue.
These are the same idiots who were protesting last winter to tear down the statue. This Kim Su-nam character thinks that MacArthur is a symbol of colonialism and imperialism? MacArthur pulled US troops out of Korea by 1948 and let Korea fend for themselves unlike the Japanese who colonized Korea for 35 years prior to the US liberating the country during World War II which wouldn’t have happened without MacArthur’s forces defeating the Japanese.
Then MacArthur saved the country again by driving out the North Koreans with his brilliant Inchon Landing Operation. Then MacArthur ultimately lost his job because he wanted to end the communists once and for all and reunite the peninsula using every means possible. President Truman fired him because he did not want a larger war.
So MacArthur saved the country twice and these people want to tear down his statue? What is really going on here is that the Korean far leftists are not just happy trying to rewrite their own history especially in reference to former South Korean President Park Chung-hee, but they want to rewrite US history as well. They want to tear down that statue as well as tear down MacArthur’s image as a liberator of Korea.
I have been accused lately of being anti-Korean by some of my commenters but I just report what is going on around here and lately I haven’t had to look to hard to find some absurd things going on and this is one of them.
Fortunately the article mentioned that a number of pro-MacArthur groups plan to protest against the leftists on Sunday. Inchon is not exactly a center of anti-Americanism in Korea and I have been to Inchon a number of times and experienced no problems what so ever. Inchon actually felt more foreigner friendly to me then Seoul. So I really do not see the citizens of Inchon giving in to the demands of these few misguided idiots. Would America get rid of the French built Statue of Liberty because we are having squabbles with the French now? Americans would never allow that to happen, no mater how much we may disagree with the French at times because that is part of our history just like MacArthur is part of Inchon’s and Korea’s history no matter how much the leftists want to deny that. However, the day Korea does get rid of Mac’s statue will be the day I never come back to this country. That is how strongly I feel about this.
To learn more about Inchon and the history of the MacArthur statue check out the GI Korea, Focus on Inchon Series.:
They would like to heroically tear down McArthur's statute to mimic the tearing down of Saddam Hussein's statue.
My sources say the Koreans want to re-install a general more to their liking: "The Crying General" — Lt. Gen Charlene Campbell, 8th Army Commander – complete with tears streaming down his sensitive face. The plaque below would read: "I feel their pain causing them to shred the American flag in an orgy of anti-American hate".
Yes, you are right: merely harping about peevish Korean behavior doesn't make one anti-Korean.
The real problem is your romantic over-idealization of Korea. Your outrage at Korean peevishness presupposes Korean society exists on a higher moral plane: as if Korea is culturally equal with America, and just experiencing some weak moments, maybe needs a little more time and education to mature as a society. Maybe we didn't give them enough subsidies.
Thus, your generals weep in the face of Koreans burning the American flag … sugggesting it's all a "cultural misunderstanding". Meanwhile, the Koreans laugh in derision at the adolescent sentimentality coming from USFK's leaders; these Koreans you embrace in a spirit of diversity — long to see the day when America flounders, and Korea somehow experiences itself as an Asian "super-power".
The great paradox of the New Army: it's a social- engineering project for multiculturalism, ironically brain-washing US soldiers into stealth anti-Americanism — who will exalt other cultures before defending and nurturing America.
There is no honor in Korea — stop pretending, otherwise.
GI, I realize you have written me off as an eccentric crank making things easier for your cultic convictions.
Let me use your comment space to enlighten you in hopes you will understand where I am coming from. I suspect your long expatriation in a closed-military environment has made you lose bearings on reality: like a cloistered cult member loses perspective on the outside world.
Here is something to consider about your life in the military: the American military has a new subtle environment these days, that comes from the Pentagon's new choice of leaders directing the US Army.
These leaders have subtly changed the social environment of the USFK into a Disneyland version of Marxism:
When Russia practiced censorship, we called it
"censorship." Here, in the US Army we call it political correctness. You have to look over your shoulder before saying the wrong things. The difference is what … between old Communist Russia and the US Army? In Russia, Marxists preached class warfare — as what the Marmot spews. In the military they preach multiculturalism. The difference is …what? The Russians, unable to speak openly, passed around samizdat. We have the blogging sites. The difference, other than efficiency, is…what?
Our domestic Marxians are journalists, academics, racial professionals, multiculturalists, bilingualists, radical feminists, educationists, bloggers, and guess what… the new senstive "weeping" generals infiltrating the US Army. Most of them lack the intelligence and schooling to know what they are helping is invidious socialism. (I think the phrase is "useful idiots.") The leaders, as for example in the universities where you were initially indoctrinated, do know. They are less lethal than Lenin and Trotsky, but their direction is the same.
The key to understanding what is happening to USFK and America is the recognition that Marxism is inflitrating the federal government and the Pentagon not as a system — but a mood: a grim, implacable, vengeful hostility toward the surrounding American society. This mood distinguishes it sharply from normal European democratic socialism. One may debate whether, say, Sweden is too socialist or not socialist enough. Yet Swedish socialism is not evil. Stealth Marxism such as what the Marmot, Jodi and their ilk secretly embrace under a pro-American veneer is.
At its heart are (1) a desire for total control of everything, including of thought to promote enlightened "progressive" thinking (2) a willingness to compel obedience by any means whatever, (3) an unconcern with economic reality and thus with material well-being, and (4) an elitist contempt for humanity ("the masses — such as you"). It is simply resentment politicized, aimed not at helping the downtrodden, but at hurting the uptrodden. An anti-majority instinct.
Now, people who viscerally realize what is going on often want to debate with our Marxians. It is a mistake. Economics is not a mathematically verifiable subject. Politics also being imprecise, it is easy to argue for or against any position until the debate dissolves into murk. A case can easily be made for communism, or Nazism, or democracy, or Catholicism, or atheism, or paedophilia.
Instead, you have to remember who they are, what they are. They are people who want to bring down ambient civilization — while self-exalting themselves. This spirit pervades, radical Islam, communist China, and its satellite countries: The two Koreas. It also finds sympathy with crying generals in the USFK.
This explains what might otherwise seem to be contradictions. For example, radical feminists, very Marxian in spirit, denounce imaginary discrimination against women in America, but say little about compulsory clitoridectomies in African and Moslem countries. This makes no sense if you believe that they want to benefit women. It makes perfect sense if their goal is to create division with an eye to destroying America.
Or note that the hard left talks endless about mistreatment of blacks in America, but conspicuously does not urge things, such as better schooling, that might help blacks. Why? Because (1) they do not really care about blacks, except as political tools, and (2) if blacks prospered, they might join the middle class and cease being usefully divisive.
Similarly, for Latino children our Marxians advocate bilingual education, which has a proven record of hindering the learning of English. Why? Latinos who spoke fluent English would marry people named Ferguson and become Americans. So much for class warfare.
And this is why Marxists, everywhere denouncing oppression, invariably practice it. There is no contradiction. They have no objection to oppression. It is central to their purposes. (Name a Marxist country that isn't oppressive.) Denouncing it is just politically expedient.
The last thing they want is for backward countries to flourish and become liberal democracies: that is why they rail against America compelling it to send development money to Africa with no regard for the endemic corruption — it's not really about helping, but promoting a global guilt and division.
Tactically, people like Marmot and Jodi are on solid ground in America, spreading their memes abroad, and infiltrating the US military with soldiers calling for the subversive dynamics of homosexuality to degrade military cohesiveness. The United States always having been successful in assimilating groups, the Marxists needed to reverse the process so as to have class warfare — such as Jodi railing against white privilege in Korea at the expense of Gyopos or the obsessive special holidays for every minority – except white people — in the USFK, or sending white military dependents to clean Korean graves as a response to a new traffic death involving USFK (indoctrinating white guilt in our children). They couldn't use the usual proletariat because it had moved into the middle class. They consequently needed to promote or invent new divisions. They did and it works with unthinking zombies like you — who focus on Korean pettiness, instead of the Marxian multiculturalism you are drowning in.
Black against white was an obviously useful fault line that the hard left didn't invent but has carefully cultivated. Opening the southern border of America amounted to importing a divisive class. Setting women against men was remarkably successful. Fanning homosexuals into hostility provided yet another serviceable resentment. The emotional terrorism practiced against boys is school (cops-and-robbers is violence), hate-speech laws, the punishment of dissent (as for example by being fired) are all the Soviet Union writ small. So far.
But, curiously our USFK generals will cry like women in order to console and appease our enemies who burn our flag. Something insidious is happening.
We will, I think, do nothing about it. Such as your unthinking alliance with the Marmot and Jodi. The socialist lepers of Marmot and Jodi — hand and hand with your docility — are an unfortunate combination.
But interesting.
Wake up GI. Your korean buddies hate your fucking guts. If you think for a minute your bud dies will stick their necks out for a yankee, you are in for a big suprise. Koreans are no better then those arab snipers.
I cant wait for them to tear down Mac. Its just more proof that koreans hate you. When will you wake up. Korean/kyopos hate HATE you.
A point of historical clarification:
General MacArthur was basically fired by Pres. Truman because he did not follow orders. It was not necessarily about a wider war, it was about a warning from the Chinese not to push north. After the good general soundly routed the NK's in the south, he thought it would be a good idea to keep pushing north to the Chinese border and reunite the penninsula. However, the Chinese were basically waiting at the border…If MacArthur would have stopped short of the Chinese border (or at least out of view of the Chinese) then the Chinese would not have gotten involved in the war and we would have saved thousands of lives and the penninsula could have (theoretically) been reunited (due to the displacement of leadership in Pyongyang) Pres. Truman repeatedly ordered Mac to withdraw but he did not and the result was two more years of bloody war….While I respect Mac for his guts and military brilliance….It could be said that it is actually his fault that Korea was divided after 2 more years of a bloody war. He underestimated the importance of the Korean penninsula to the Chinese…and he underestimated the likelihood that they would join the war.
There is not doubt that Mac was a hero for both Koreans and Americans….without his Incheon landing…Korea would have been united as communist…The statue of him is recognition of that FACT. I agree that it is utter nonsense that these folks want to remove it….but from a historical perspective one could present a good argument for Koreans to dislike him.
You are incorrect about your claims that the Chinese would have not invaded if MacArthur did not move North. First of all somebody had to occupy North Korea if the peninsula was to be reunified. The ROK Army moved into North Korea along with US forces. The ROK Army alone at that time I seriously doubt would of have been able to conquer and occupy all of North Korea. Also even if the ROK Army moved in by itself the Chinese would of intervened anyway. You need to read the below link:
Sino-North Korean Conflict and Its Resolution during the Korean War
http://wwics.si.edu/news/docs/article1-sz.pdf
The Chinese had every intention of assisting the North Koreans once the Americans got involved but Kim Il Sung did not trust the Chinese for a variety of reasons and did not want their help which infuriated the Chinese. He only requested their help when it became clear he was going to lose the war. It is really a fascinating piece of reading that I highly recommend that everyone read.
Article on yahoo about the protest:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050717/ap_on_re_as/s…
I would like to put a bullet between each of those anti-American demonstrator's eyes. THey are so f-cking ignorant. How can they be so stupid? I am Korean-American also. My father has always told me what General MacArthur did for Korea. I think that he is the most heroic man in Korea's history. Obviously, those demonstrators weren't raised properly, or were paid by North Koreans. If I saw Kim Jong Il, I would put a bullet between his eyes.