USFK Bans Troops from Buying Drinks for Juicy Girls
Considering all the attention given to sexual assault and sexual harassment in the military it was only a matter of time before USFK did this because if they didn’t one of the activist groups would have exploited this issue to bash USFK with:
U.S. Forces Korea has banned servicemembers from buying drinks for workers in “juicy bars,” which have long been suspected of involvement in prostitution and human trafficking.
While the military has maintained a zero tolerance policy toward both practices and some commands have taken their own steps to shutter juicy bars, the prohibition on buying “juice” in exchange for female company is USFK’s latest country-wide effort to close the establishments, which used to cluster by the dozen outside some bases.
“Paying for companionship directly supports human trafficking and is a precursor to prostitution,” USFK commander Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti wrote in an Oct. 15 policy letter announcing the change. “This practice encourages the objectification of women, reinforces sexist attitudes, and is demeaning to all human beings.” [Stars & Stripes]
You can read the rest at the link, but like I have always said the easiest thing to have done was to put all juicy bars with third country nationals in them off limits. It is much harder to human traffic Korean women when they understand the culture, language, and do not have to worry about having passports held from them. This latest ban pretty much has the same effect. It will be interesting to see what new business model the juicy bar owners come up with to get money from troops. Anyone have any ideas?
” “This practice encourages the objectification of women, reinforces sexist attitudes, and is demeaning to all human beings.””
Is he talking about buying drinks for the juicys or the annual visits by NFL cheerleaders? Scap you hypocrite.
Btw, GI did you take that photo yourself? Is that why you always use if for ville/juicy acrticles? 🙂
This is more bad news for GI’s who now must use their right hands more often (or they have to hump each other), and the Filipinos who cannot send their earned money back to their home countries.
Someone should do a study on when prostitution was made illegal under UCMJ vs. when the rise in sexual assaults began in the Army. I bet there is a correlation…
So, how exactly are they going to enforce this? If a GI is drinking with a girl in the bar are there going to be people looking over his shoulder to see how much he paid and how much change he gets back? Some GIs run a tab on their credit card. Will there be someone inspecting his receipt when he pays up?
Just as some on base clubs have Ladies Night drink specials, that some may argue also objectifies women, how bars and clubs price their drinks are totally their prerogative. The customers choose whether to pay the prices or not. I figure I pay more than twice as much for my drink in a bar than I would making that drink for myself at home. But I pay it because sometimes I prefer to drink in a bar.
While the GIs might be sidelined from buying ladies’ drinks, there will still be other customers who still have that freedom of choice.
To celebrate the end of this era, I would like to welcome you all to ChickenHead’s Sofa Bar.
Of course there are many chairs and table to sit at… but when you purchase one of our $20 employee milky drinks, you are welcome to sit on one of our more comfortable employee sofas in the dimly-lit employee lounge in the back of the bar where our employees relax and mix with preferred customers.
Over golf, the general and I discussed how this would give servicemembers more exposure and understanding of local culture; and a real sense of community involvement while insuring no women were objectified, no sexist attitudes were reinforced, and no human beings were demeaned.
On the monthly Business Association-sponsored shopping trip, all the officers’ wives showed great enthusiasm for this program, as well.
The shameful practice of buying juice for objectification-oriented female companionship has ended and it is now time to give servicemembers a more wholesome and educational exposure to the business world.
There goes the GNP of the Philippines…there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. The more the “Moralist” in the officer ranks try to curtail biological urges, the more those repressed urges will seek out other avenues of release. You can only spank it so much before it needs the soft embrace of the vagina…The French Foreign Legion solved this problem long ago by providing these services to their Legionnaires.
Well having read the policy if I were a bar owner I already know how I’d get around this.
In any case you can always spot the BS policy when it only encourages non active-duty to follow it; if it were legit it’d be mandatory for all like the one dealing with overt prostitution.
Big deal, if you can’t get laid in Korea, you’ve got problems. There’s jack and fuck shacks on every corner.
Then how come I can’t get laid then? Eotteoke, Eotteoke…
What is USFK gunna do, make a huge CP mafia to go bar to bar to enforce it?
Set up a nark hotline?
Laughable.
I can’t wait until the CP/MP’s accost a short haired, GI looking foreigner sitting with a lady having drinks – only to discover that said foreigner is perhaps a Canadian or Irishman and the lady is his wife. At that point, the aforementioned foreigner (besides being illegally accosted by the US military in the sovereign country of Korea) may conclude the US government has labeled his wife a whore. Some may take umbrage to such a situation and rightly so.
It will happen if they attempt enforcement.
“It will happen if they attempt enforcement.”
So what?
USFK will claim the enforcement, even if completely illegal, was done on-duty so there is nothing Korea can do about it as per the SOFA.
USFK will blame the System, speak of re-doubling efforts to avoid future incidents, and claim the solution is increased training… probably on a Saturday morning. The training will consist of new and improved clever ways to detain, question, and hassle Koreans and non-Koreans in Korea without technically doing anything illegal enough to become an issue.
Korea will shamefully act the part of puppet lackey and refuse to make a big issue of American military law enforcement treating Korean citizens as targets and victims…. and Korean soil as their personal ego-driven third world playground for abuse.
Korean leftist agitators will point to the event as an example of GI criminals going unpunished and demand a renegotiation of the SOFA… and they will actually be right on both counts.
The unpunished military law enforcement will eventually get out and become real police… hassling American citizens in America the same way and sharing stories about how much easier it was to hassle the stupid gooks because USFK had their back and the Koreans were too weak and naturally subservient to do anything about it.
…pretty much just the way the Osan Handcuffing Scandal played out.
@Smokes, as much as I would like to take credit for juicy girl photos they are actually from the Stars & Stripes article.
By the way for those that do not remember here is a link to the before mentioned Osan Handcuff Scandal.
While were on the topic of Osan scandals how can we forget the 2005 Osan Shakedown Scandal.
I noted the pic on the S&S article earlier today with their credit claim, just figured it had some sentiment to you since it’s probably the most seen one on here.
As to how their going to enforce it you already know, they’ll just augment the current MP/SP/CP duties to request ID of anyone they suspect is patronizing a juicy. If you deny the request on the basis you aren’t USFK personnel they’ll have the option of letting it go and if it really was a GI they better hope they don’t run into you again on-post while in uniform or they can just call in for KNP backup so they can make the ID request. That’s been kosher for prostitution but I don’t know how that’ll play out as buying someone a drink isn’t illegal which might make the KNP powerless to for an ID check, I don’t know enough about Korean law to say.
Did anyone notice how this looks like change but is not?
Change is: “All clubs that have non-Korean girls working in them are off-limits for USFK.”
Not Change is: “We are talking tough in such a way that clubs have several easy outs to make a different-but-equal business model that gets money from GIs through employing low-wage foreign girls with the hope of some kind of sexual relationship… and will equally encourage the objectification of women, reinforce sexist attitudes, and will be demeaning to all human being, including the suckers that get ripped off.”
Even with this change and a reflective belt our Canadian friend will still be unable to get a date…
No problem where I live. They have a large amount of PI skanks and a few PI men here who work in Korean factories. Most of them live near the ville and some of them shack up with contractors. The other ones hang out on weekends in juicy bars and pick up contractors. There are so many of them that they are slowly opening up their own bars and social clubs. Seldom do you see them with GI’s. They also are bringing all their kids by different fathers here.
In a strongly-worded follow-up letter, USFK commander Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti wrote, “Paying for companionship, even in a dating environment, is a precursor to prostitution and sexual assault. This practice is demeaning to all human beings; both through the objectification of women and the repeated but futile efforts of men. Effective immediately, it will no longer be permissible to purchase an alcoholic or non-alcoholic refreshment for females, including female members of our fighting forces. All dates will be Dutch” [Stars & Stripes]
It’s about time !
Organized crime gangs have long unleashed hookers, dope dealers,etc
all over Asia and the rest of the World.
This not only spreads diseases but also encourages people from
poor countries in Asia and Elsewhere to frequent US bases and
attempt to exploit servicemen with the objectives of financial
gains and even green cards,etc.
Governments and law enforcement should have cleaned the whole dirty
mess up decades ago !
Foreign correspondent Asia Pacific
Paul Martin,
Until recently, Air Force leadership at Osan Air Base mostly ignored prostitution and human trafficking.
Some members of Osan leadership actually encouraged it… and even profited from it.
Rumor has it that Major General Maurice “Maury” Forsyth (ret.), former commander of Osan Air Base, was let go as president of Randolph-Macon Academy when his involvement with shakedowns of prostitution bars became somehow well-known among faculty, staff, and paying parents.
Google his name, as well as Lt. Jason D. Davis, if you are interested.
Gi,s need to go back to what the best at .. Shaking the midle lizard..Floging there log..Jerking the gerkin..Grapling there one eyed trouser snake !
Korean bar owners need to band together and hire a lawyer (a good one) to sue USFK. As far as I can tell, USFK is blatantly enforcing a double-standard. I never heard of a bar in the States being put off limits for this.