Jeb Bush doesn’t know shooters heart but knows the heart of the 9 killed, he must watch FoxNOTnews…
‘I Don’t Know’ If Charleston Shooting Was Racially Motivated ~ Jeb Bush http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jeb-bush-charleston-shooting-remarks
“S.C. church shooting suspect said he wanted ‘to kill black people,’ official says”
tbonetylr
9 years ago
Racist Manifesto linked to Charleston SC shooter Dylann Storm Roof. I must say he has a point about veterans… http://gawker.com/here-is-what-appears-to-be-dylann-roofs-racist-manifest-1712767241
“I hate the sight of the American flag. Modern American patriotism is an absolute joke. People pretending like they have something to be proud while White people are being murdered daily in the streets. Many veterans believe we owe them something for “protecting our way of life” or “protecting our freedom”. But im not sure what way of life they are talking about. How about we protect the White race and stop fighting for the jews…”
Given that the NRA helprd Harry Reid get elected and reelected for so many years, is tbone finally beginning to criticize the Democrats? If so, we welcome something balanced from him.
HBO’s ‘Requiem for the Dead’: A deep wallow in gun-related senselessness
Tonight @ 9:00 p.m. eastern ~ 8.000 + dead from gun violence in spring of 2014/32.000 + dead throughout 2014/88 dead from gun violence each and every day.
But we didn’t hear much about all those deaths did we? No! We mostly heard about the 4.000 or so deaths of volunteer war dogs fighting for and trusting war hawks and non-Christians dealing in manufacturing weapons.
“Duplicity is the currency of today…they say one thing and do another” ~ Pope Francis
Instead we’ve mostly heard the “usual suspects”(with FoxNOTnews leading the way) hyping the unjust Iraq war and stupidly fought Afghanistan war for the past 15 years.
32.000 x 15 = 450.000 domestic American gun violence deaths!
4.000 / 15 = ONLY 267 WAR DOG “terrorism” deaths in 15 years.
Yet the film triumphs in making viewers feel the true loss of the lives of people we never knew. Assembled entirely from social network posts, 911 calls and media reports — and without any narration or direct interviews — “Requiem for the Dead” zooms in on the circumstances of eight shooting deaths that occurred between March and June of last year — eight of the approximately 8,000 who lost their lives in gun-related murders, suicides or accidents in the same three-month time period.
The saddest fact is that you can probably supply the narratives of both the victims and the shooters without me telling you, because the circumstances are so common:…”
tbonetylr
9 years ago
SC Confederate Rag-flag Myth that lived for decades, was taught and repeated by GOP’ers and their fellow haters(White Supremacist Who Influenced Charleston Suspect ~ Shooter, Dylan Storm Roof ~ Donated to 2016 G.O.P. Campaigns)… http://empathyeducates.org/Journeys-to-and-through/clyburn-op-ed-the-confederate-battle-flag-should-come-down-from-the-statehouse/
Op-Ed by Congressman James E. Clyburn ~ Removing the Confederate Battle Flag from the dome of the Statehouse and placing it in front, gave it the appearance of sovereignty. #embarrassing.’
“The tragedy that occurred Wednesday night in Charleston, S.C., has engendered many personal emotions about race and reopened a conversation about a controversial and divisive symbol. Let us begin with several little-known but well-documented facts about that flag currently flying in front of the statehouse. It is not the Confederate flag. It is the Confederate “battle flag.”
Second, the version of that flag that flew on the statehouse dome from 1962 until 2000 was an elongated version of the battle flag and is also known as the “Tennessee flag.” In fact, it is the flag that Nathan Bedford Forrest used as a rallying symbol when he founded the Ku Klux Klan, and was popularized by that iconic movie, “Gone With the Wind.”
The real Confederate flag commonly known as the “Stars and Bars” contained a circle of 13 stars and three bars. For years, advocates tried to get the “battle flag” adopted as an official symbol but it was always rejected, even by the Daughters of the Confederacy.
Another little-known fact is that most South Carolinians who fought in the Civil War never fought under that flag. Many fought under the Citadel Flag which was similar to our current flag, but with a red rather than blue field, and a white crescent and palmetto tree.
So this notion that thousands of South Carolinians fought and died under that flag flying in front of the statehouse is a myth. Our legislators would do themselves and our state great proud if they would furl the “battle flag,” place it in a museum so all South Carolinians can become unified around symbols in which all of us are invested and to which all of us can pledge allegiance.”
ChickenHead
9 years ago
Ho-hum…
As we have demonstrated over and over with CDC and FBI reports, most gun deaths are suicides… and most gun murders are blacks killing blacks.
Nothing to see here… move along.
tbonetylr
9 years ago
Law Enforcement More Afraid Of Right Wing Attacks Than Islamic Extremism: Survey
Have you ever heard of the Hutaree Militia(video)? But conservatives don’t believe the report(video) even though the report was commissioned by the Bush administration(they pretend to forget and don’t mention that part). http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/law-enforcement-more-afraid-right-wing
“C&L has been covering the rise of right wing extremist violence since our beginning days and we’ve seen a huge increase in their behavior ever since President Obama took office. Back in 2009, the DHS issued an excellent report on right wing extremism, which was immediately attacked by Conservatives as a veiled attempt of bias againts all things Conservative and whatever conspiracy theory they could come up with…,
Our own David Neiwert wrote an exceptional piece debunking their outrage:
Because, you know, the report — which in fact is perfectly accurate in every jot and tittle — couldn’t be more clear. It carefully delineates that the subject of its report is “rightwing extremists,” “domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist groups,” “terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks,” “white supremacists,” and similar very real threats described in similar language.
Nothing about conservatives. The word never appears in the report.
As we’ve seen the report has been right on. A new survey taken in collaboration with the Police Executive Research Forum found that law enforcement is much more worried about dealing with right wing extremism than with ISIS…
… “Far-right extremism was not just anti-government folks, it included white supremacists and other forms of right-wing extremism as well,” Kurzman told TPM. “So it’s possible that [the Charleston shooting] is indeed part of the overall threat of right-wing extremism that we found law enforcement agencies quite concerned about.”
The right wing talking point is that liberals do as much damage as right wing fanatics so there is no there there, but the facts don’t hold up to scrutiny. The favorite beltway axiom that both sides do it is nonsense and this new survey reveals again how worried law enforcement is when it comes to homegrown right wing terrorists and they should be…
…What’s strange is that usually Conservatives are in lockstep with law enforcement except when it comes to this issue. I guess it touches a little close to home for them.”
setnaffa
9 years ago
I’m not surprised that tbone assumes someone is what they call themselves; but just because someone calls themselves a [insert label here] doesn’t mean they are. Look up the definition of “false flag” and “moby”…
setnaffa
9 years ago
Not to mention the fact that tbone seems to think no cops are Democrats, Liberals, or Statists. Because we all know there are no police in Workers’ Paradises like Venezuela or North Korea.
ChickenHead
9 years ago
Like prostitution and human trafficking being lumped together as an absolute, this definition of “right wing” is composed of a lot of groups that are only classified that way because they aren’t really left wing… or the left wing won’t claim them regardless of their shared values.
Racists groups, sovereign citizens, anti-government campaigners, anarchists, survivalists, extreme loners, Christian cults, conspiracy theorists, libertarians, etc., are not all clearly “right wing” in the way it is being presented.
But the police are right to fear them. For the most part, these groups leave others alone and expect to be left alone. When they are pestered for what frequently is a victimless “crime”, they can become dangerous… especially as their harassment is exactly what they most fear and what they are most willing to fight against.
Since the police are on the front line of dealing with these people to enforce laws that these individuals may not see as correct or just… and many times, the police are doing so individually instead of with a large militarized group, it makes perfect sense for the police to fear them more than Islamic terrorists where Officer Friendly will simply show up to make a report of the smoking carnage while the SWAT team assembles for the raid on the perps.
This survey is a non-issue… except to give “right wing” a bad connotation so that other targeted groups can be linked to “right wing” to create guilt by association.
Let’s look at some statistics from the FBI’s website. I will report here as I find the info. Let’s see where it leads.
(Google the quote to find the source)
“According to statistics collected by the FBI, 76 law enforcement officers were killed in line-of-duty incidents in 2013. Of these, 27 law enforcement officers died as a result of felonious acts, and 49 officers died in accidents.”
So… 27 law enforcement officers were killed in 2013… not quite the “cops blown away with UZIs every day” meme… but at about one every other week, it is probably too many.
Now, let’s see who the cops should fear…
“Profile of alleged known assailants
In 2013, 28 alleged offenders were identified in connection with the 27 law enforcement officers feloniously killed. Of those offenders, the following characteristics are known:
– The average age of the alleged offenders was 30 years old.
– The average height was 5 feet 9 inches tall, and the average weight was 177 pounds.
– 26 of the alleged offenders were male, 1 was female, and gender was not reported for 1 offender.
– 15 of the alleged offenders were white, 11 were black, and race was not reported for 2 offenders.
– 20 of the alleged offenders had prior criminal arrests.
– 6 of the alleged offenders were under judicial supervision at the time of the incidents.”
The first thing of note is that 42% of the cop killers in 2013 were black… despite making up 13% of the population.
It must also be pointed out that the lack of Hispanics is noticeable. Maybe they just don’t kill cops. Or maybe this is due to the trend of reporting Hispanics as “white” in many data sets.
“FBI numbers show that of the 565 people accused of murdering police officers since 2004, 289 have been white and 243 have been black.”
It must have been a slow year in 2013… as a larger data set shows blacks make up 46% of cop killers… while making up 13% of the population… a 354% over-representation. Maybe racist cops shouldn’t have been hassling them over how many bullets were in their guns.
A very quick search didn’t produce a color-coded graph indicating if these cop killers were right wing terrorists… but, with only 27 dead cops in 2013, detailed news on the incident and a bit of information on the cop-killer should be pretty easy to find.
A quick random sample indicates far more Obama supporters on some form of public assistance than Christian conservatives.
Anyone who thinks this suspicion might be incorrect is welcome to Google all 27 incidents and produce a report.
It appears everyone is full of shyt here.
Cops need to fear black people with a criminal record…
…and they do.
tbonetylr
9 years ago
Cornel West: Obama Is First ‘Niggerized’ Black President(video)… http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/cornel-west-obama-first-niggerized-black
“Cornel West appeared with Poppy Harlow just ahead of Nikki Haley’s announcement about the removal of the confederate flag from the statehouse grounds. He had some particularly strong words to say about white supremacy and how President Obama has dealt with issues of race…”
tbonetylr
9 years ago
Michael Moore Speaks The Truth On Twitter; Right Wingers Lose Their Minds Over It…
“Conservatives absolutely love to hate filmmaker Michael Moore. Anytime Moore so much as speaks a line of truth to power, they collectively go bonkers, lose their minds, and line up to attack him.
And it has happened yet again. This time as the result of a comment he posted on Twitter shortly after the horrible deaths of nine churchgoing people in Charleston, South Carolina, at the hands of admitted murderer Dylann Roof. Moore wrote:…”
But the reaction online from the right wing trolls and assorted digital vampires was almost immediate. Here’s some of what has been posted over the past three days:…”
Like prostitution and human trafficking being lumped together as an absolute, this definition of “left wing” is composed of a lot of groups that are only classified that way because they aren’t really right wing… or the right wing won’t claim them regardless of their shared values.
So… 27 law enforcement officers were killed in 2013…
And so, we have no idea how many citizens were killed by cops in 2013 because there is only a half-hearted system with voluntary reporting. I wonder, when there are so many things which are mandatory to report on why we don’t report this most basic statistic. It might be very informative. It also might piss the people off.
Would you like to see how much respect a 14 year old black girl in a bikini receives during her arrest?
ChickenHead
9 years ago
Leon, it is clever to quote me and reverse the adjectives so as to give equal time to both sides of the issue…
…but it is more clever to do that and then give examples.
Name a media-promoted “left wing terrorist” that was actually a right wing terrorist. There may be some. I cannot think of any off the top of my head.
In support of my statement, I will offer Jared Lee Loughner, who shot U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords.
Because he used a gun, shot a Democrat, hated the government, and believed in conspiracy theories, he was quickly labeled as right wing. Closer inspection, that never made the front pages, showed that he was an anti-religious druggie…
‘“As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy,” the former classmate, Caitie Parker, wrote in a series of Twitter feeds Saturday. ‘
Perhaps, as he was simply batshyt crazy, the whole left wing/right wing dichotomy breaks down… but it didn’t stop the media from pushing the “right wing terrorists” narrative until it quietly went away.
Another example might be Chris Dorner, who was originally pushed in the media as being a Tea Party member and Bush supporter… until his manifesto went public and showed support for Obama, a desire to see Hillary as president in 2016, and dislike of the NRA.
So. There are two examples (very much off the top of my head) which support my statement. You are welcome to give examples which support your version.
Leon, consider this important information…
While offhand comments on the internet aren’t necessarily suitable for true understanding or a “diagnosis” of someone’s mental health, be aware that your very obvious shift over the last few years from intelligent thoughtful comments based on facts to mostly pointless or even nonsensical reactionary comments based on vague and undefined ideology COULD be meaningful to observers.
In fact, this exact action fits the profile of many of these “terrorists”, right and left, who eventually make the news through mental decline followed by semi-untargeted violence.
A professional profiler might look at your comment history and suspect things like hopelessness at work, marriage breakdown, drug use, financial problems, or other personal failures internal or external.
I am not saying this is the case… you may be living a wonderful life and be far too busy to write thoughtful comments… but based on your previous history of thoughtful comments, it would be more fitting to write nothing at all.
This is just an observation, Take it as you will.
It would be a pleasure to see the old wise Leon back writing entertaining and fact-supported comments instead of one who frequently sounds more like Tbone spouting off nonsense in the midst of a glue high.
tbonetylr
9 years ago
Alarming Statue of a Racist and Horse off Tennessee Interstate standing 25 feet tall and surrounded by 10 or so Confederate flags Perfectly Honors The Confederacy and KKK Wizard/Founder Nathan Bedford Forrest…
Attorney to Martin Luther King’s killer James Earl Ray built the ugly thing. The “sculpter” who built it is named Jack Kershaw and he claimed that his client James Earl Ray was the innocent patsy of a mystery man named Raul who masterminded the conspiracy to kill the civil rights leader. Kershaw was also a Southern secessionist and segregationist who helped found the League of the South. In 1998 he sculpted a monument of Nathan Bedford Forrest. http://gawker.com/alarming-statue-of-a-racist-and-horse-perfectly-honors-1713422930
tbone and others foget it was Democrats who tried to seceed to protect their “right” to own slaves. It was Democrats who founded and ran the Klan. It was Democrats who created and enforced Jim Crow. It was Democrats who segregated schools and lunch counters. It was (and is) Democrats who use “Affirmative Action” to promote the idea that blacks are not smart enough to score as high as whites or Asians in school. Racial quotas are needed, say Democrats, to allow blacks to access Higher Education.
And now blacks support the old White Democrats who have done so much for them.
Makes one wonder.
setnaffa
9 years ago
Charleston Shooter a Conservative? Yeah. Not so much. He supported Democrat and Progressive ideas.
Progressive ideas? Reread the public works of Aldous Huxley, Margaret Sanger, GB Shaw, Woodrow Wilson, and Cecil Rhodes.
setnaffa
9 years ago
And Leon is not excused from this exercise. 🙂
THE LIST:
– Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Registered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occupy guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
– James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.
– Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
– Ohio bomb plot derps were occupy Wall St leftists.
– Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
– Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.
– Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat – killed Kennedy…
Just give us 10 “Conservatives” who were mass shooters and I’m sure you can avoid this conversation again.
ChickenHead
9 years ago
Careful, Setnaffa…
1. The Democrat and Republican parties have changed every few decades… and are continuing to change. Both parties have had their high and low points.
Criticizing Democrats for what they did 50 years ago is like praising the current crop of fake Republicans for the Reagan era.
It is very easy to criticize Democrats based on current beliefs and behavior… Republicans, too.
2. Your list looks suspiciously like a chain email gone wrong…. and I would make an effort to verify it before posting.
Seung-Hui Cho got my attention. As was heavily discussed around here at the time, he was not a U.S. citizen… so could probably neither vote nor be a “registered Democrat”.
Few of these spree/rampage killers seem to fit neatly into Democrat/Republican/liberal/conservative boxes no matter how hard the left and right media try to shoehorn them into it… though it doesn’t stop both sides from trying through misrepresentation, selective reporting, and outright lies.
In reading their writings, it is easier to find random crazy than clear ideology.
What you seek will be hard to find in the pool of mass shooters. Try looking at professional leftist terrorists like Bill Ayers and the Unibomber…
…but be aware, for every one of them, there is a conservative Christian killing abortion doctors.
You might also consider that almost all of the black-on-black and black-on-white crime is committed by Obama supporters and Democrats… though they are such a low-education/low-information group that it is almost insincere to assign much meaning to that. They just gravitated to like skin color and promises of social bribery rather than a belief in a larger ideology.
Nonetheless, you can make a pretty good case that two thirds to three quarters of gun deaths are committed by Democrats.
That might be worth pinning down with some hard statistics.
Chickenhead did all my work for me both with setnaffa’s 1850 and 1950 democrats and shooters. Setnaffa gets very confused when it comes to facts versus perception. I do not blame setnaffa, an education based on indoctrination in magick and the supernatural makes one credulous and susceptible to all sort of bullshit. Usually when setnaffa is directly questioned on posted “facts” he goes on a short vacation and shows up later in another thread, much the same strategy as our long time lurker who has thrice refused to define his “traditional America” he claims I seek to destroy.
/wipes hands on pants and strolls toward the door…
ChickenHead
9 years ago
Leon, I am distrustful of Setbaffa’s list… and we should all debate issues by twisting facts rather than creating fiction…
…but I gave you two examples of left-leaning spree killers who the mainstream media clearly represented as right wing… but on closer examination of their actual written thoughts seem to clearly lean to the left.
Did you have some counter examples where right leaning “terrorists” were represented as left leaning by the mainstream media? Or even a comment on my previous thoughts?
As you noted, I just do not have time to devote to proper research on the topic and do it justice. I am not sure what the “MSM” actually is any more. The most popular network seems to rant about the MSM yet would be the MSM. The whole left/right debate is tiresome enough. When we then add what should probably be considered mental illness to the equation, does it matter?
ChickenHead
9 years ago
“does it matter?”
It is likely that the vast majority of problems facing America today are due to opportunists with selfish or malevolent intent taking advantage of the apathy of Americans.
“Does it matter?” is the friend of many of your enemies… even if you do not fully recognize it.
This did not come about by accident.
“Does it matter?” has been cultivated… by buying citizens off so their short-term needs are filled at the expense of long-term good, focusing their attention on things that do not matter but seem more important than thing that do matter, and by promoting a sense of hopelessness and making it easier to pretend it does not matter than recognizing that it does and then fighting the Man over it.
The left/right debate is never tiresome… nor should it be. Involved citizens endlessly communicating, while filtering out the propaganda, misinformation, social engineering hijacks, etc., keep the left and right on a balanced middle path… selecting the best parts of both ideologies while rejecting fringe elements… for the betterment of all citizens.
Due to the “does it matter” mentality of so many Americans, the left and right have now joined forces against the citizens… making a show of squabbling over things that really don’t matter while secretly agreeing on things that do matter. The radical fringe gets the most attention and the worst parts of both sides are pushed on the population.
If you really think it does not matter, it is because you are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
But to your credit, you did comment… which is more than most of the limp-diicks around here can say,
Liz
9 years ago
My son’s SAT score was 700 reading, 650 math.
We just got the test results this morning and he is devastated.
Back when I was in college that was a really great score.
Now he needs to break 700 in math or it’s mediocre. He can’t figure out what he did wrong either, because he thought he had everything right and checked twice.
Kids have a lot more stress today than they used to, with all the talk of ‘slacking’, Ferris Bueller days are over.
setnaffa
9 years ago
So… One needs to be a US Citizen to be a registered voter… You should Tell Houston, San Antonio, and San Francisco…
When someone claims “right wing does the same” it is interesting to see them then claim they have no time to research.
And then pretend to be cool.
There’s lies and damned lies. And the “Oh! It doesn’t matter anyway” misinformation is the worst sort of bovine scat.
But the good news is that the folks they elected have already run out of other people’s money and the supporters are now considered fair game.
tbonetylr
9 years ago
Right Wingers Go Nuclear On Social Media Over SCOTUS Obamacare Ruling
If Trump wins or any other GOP 2016 presidential candidate wins(ain’t gonna happen) he/she won’t be able change the ACA(Affordable Care Act/Obamacare) alone.
All you had to do was take a peek at Twitter and Facebook to see just how agitated the right wingers were. Here are a few of the posts that caught my eye:
“#Obamacare justice Roberts still blackmailed for adoption of two foreign kids provides key vote for Obamacare. He is still a trader.”
…
“I’ll end with another of my personal favorites:
“America does not have a single king ruler, but instead has 9 kings/queens who’s dictatorial-esk power rule us all. #SCOTUScare“
Really? Stupid-esk much?”
tbonetylr
9 years ago
Hackers Stole Secrets of U.S. Government Workers’(and CONTRACTORS) Sex Lives
So Mr. Hack(ROK DROP gov’t CONTRACTOR and self-proclaimed hacker of my so-called personal information/EGGHEAD) got hacked and below is what he’s been hiding…
Shhh, he’s been practicing bestiality…what other sickly things is he into? Answers are below…
‘Hackers Stole Secrets of U.S. Government Workers’(and CONTRACTORS) Sex Lives’ http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/24/hackers-stole-secrets-of-u-s-government-workers-sex-lives.html
“Infidelity. Sexual fetishes. Drug abuse. Crushing debt. They’re the most intimate secrets of U.S. government workers. And now they’re in the hands of foreign hackers.
It was already being described as the worst hack of the U.S. government in history. And it just got much worse.
A senior U.S. official has confirmed that foreign hackers compromised the intimate personal details of an untold number of government workers.
Those details, which are now presumed to be in the hands of Chinese spies, are found in the so-called “adjudication information” that U.S. investigators compile on government employees and ~ CONTRACTORS ~
…who have applied for security clearances. The exposure suggests that the massive computer breach at the Office of Personnel Management is more significant and potentially damaging to national security than officials have previously said.
Likely included in the hackers’ haul: information about workers’ sexual partners, drug and alcohol abuse, debts, gambling compulsions, marital troubles, and any criminal activity.
Those details, which are now presumed to be in-the-hands-of CHINESE SPIES…,
…
This official, who requested anonymity, added that adjudication information would give foreign intelligence services “enormous leverage” over U.S. personnel whom they might forcibly interrogate for information or try to recruit.
Adjudication information would include the results of polygraph examinations, both former U.S. officials said. The exam can be extraordinarily intimate, bordering on humiliating. One former official said a polygrapher once asked if he’d ever practiced bestiality….
…By design, adjudication is an invasive process, meant to unearth risk factors including drug and alcohol abuse, extramarital affairs, a history of violence, and other events that speak to a person’s “trustworthiness” and their susceptibility to blackmail or being recruited to spy for a foreign government.
For instance, “compulsive gambling is a concern, as it may lead to financial crimes including espionage,” the guidelines say. Adjudicators are told to note “a pattern of compulsive, self-destructive, or high risk sexual behavior,” “relapse after diagnosis of alcohol abuse,” and “emotionally unstable, irresponsible, dysfunctional, violent, paranoid, or bizarre behavior,” among other warning signs in 13 categories…
I THINK ONE OF THE BELOW DESCRIBES HIM, and NOW THE CHINESE GOT HIM…
“Another applicant who’d held a clearance for 25 years while serving in the military had an affair with his former college roommate’s wife “on and off for more than twenty years,” his adjudicator noted. The applicant told the wife about the affair in 2014, and they’re “working through their problems.”
“A third applicant was reprimanded by his supervisor for accessing pornography on his work computer. He had “not told his wife about these issues because he feels embarrassed by his conduct,” his file notes.
Sometimes when things do not go your way it doesn’t mean there is a conspiracy, or a cabal. Sometimes we are just wrong.
OblammoScare is a craptacular political compromise crafted from various half assed republican and democrat compromises that hovels it. Everyone knows single payer was the way to go, all the other civilized countries figured it out.
Anyway, here’s some delicious daily hypocrite karma pay back aka hypocrite shaming.
Abstinence-only spokesperson and profiteer Bristol Palin is pregnant with her second out-of-wedlock child.
One of the reasons more young women are giving birth out of wedlock and more young men are walking away from their paternal obligations is that there is no longer a stigma attached to this behavior, no reason to feel shame. Many of these young women and young men look around and see their friends engaged in the same irresponsible conduct. Their parents and neighbors have become ineffective at attaching some sense of ridicule to this behavior. There was a time when neighbors and communities would frown on out of wedlock births and when public condemnation was enough of a stimulus for one to be careful.
When is Jeb! going to man up and call her out. Another liar.
I could care less who she screws or how often but she should take personal responsibility and she should not spread lies for profit to children.
These people don’t believe or live by the bullshit they spew. The masses cling to them anyway even after almost daily outings of their leaders, whether they be politicians, preachers, reality show freaks or whatever combination of those things the Palin’s are…
Abstinence didn’t work for her, again. And please don’t defend it as I’ll present my rebuttal in advance: The Virgin Mary is the ultimate proof of the failure of abstinence for birth control.
tbonetylr
9 years ago
N Charleston officer fired for posing in rebel flag underwear
Look at NumbNuts below or rather the Right-Wing GOP’er… http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150625/PC16/150629550/1009&source=RSS
A North Charleston police officer has been fired because he posted a photo of himself wearing Confederate flag boxer shorts.
Shannon Dildine, who was a sergeant and with the force since 1996, was sent a letter Wednesday from Police Chief Eddie Driggers detailing why the department let him go.
He was terminated because it was determined that the posting would make him incapable of effectively serving as a North Charleston officer.
“On Tuesday … the City learned that you posted on Facebook a photograph in which you were wearing only a pair of boxer shorts emblazoned with the image of the Confederate flag,” Driggers wrote. “Your posting in this manner led to you being publicly identified as a North Charleston Police officer and associated both you and the Department with an image that symbolizes hate and oppression to a significant portion of the citizens we are sworn to serve.”
Further, Driggers said, Dildine could compromise any criminal cases involving minorities because a defense attorney could use the photo call to into question his motivation in making an arrest.”
tbonetylr
9 years ago
Nino says Jiggery Pokery
Is that a racial slur Nino made or some Azzhat Aussie vocab ~ HO JU ~ English he’s using via his contempt for the word “State” in the Affordable Care Act law?
The opinion could be described as the “full Nino.”
He described one aspect of Chief Justice John Roberts’ majority opinion as “sheer applesauce,” took a poke at what he described as “interpretive jiggery-pokery” and accused his colleagues of “somersaults of statutory interpretation.”
…And one more putdown: “Words no longer have meaning if an exchange that is NOT established by a state is ‘established by a state’…
…Scalia may have an opportunity to top himself Friday or Monday.
He has been a vociferous dissenter in three major gay rights case, culminating with the court’s ruling that threw out a key provision of the federal Defense of Marriage Act as discriminatory. Scalia has made clear his antipathy to the gay lifestyle, and accused colleagues of furthering the “homosexual agenda” with their Lawrence vs. Texas.
A Supreme Court ruling, expected Friday or Monday, could extend marriage equality to all 50 states and wipe from the books bans remaining in 17 states.
“Nino Scalia will likely be reading again from the bench.”
Liz
9 years ago
I wonder if we compared the number of females who have gotten pregnant from no sex to the number of females who got pregnant from having sex, which number would be higher?
Guess it’s all a damned mystery.
But, yes, Palin is a hypocrite.
Liz
9 years ago
I hope you realize, Leon, that “abstinence only” education is a canard label. There are no sex ed classes in public schools that teach ONLY abstinence. “Abstinence only” is a liberal meme title for sexual education classes that place emphasis on abstinence.
Suggesting that those types of sex ed classes cause pregnancy is like suggesting the nutrition classes cause children to be fat. You’ll see fatter children in poorer and more ignorant areas, for a number of reason but primarily because food tastes good and cheap fatty sugary food tastes best of all (and again, cheap). The poorer the community the more emphasis they have on living for the moment rather than longterm objectives that aren’t as immediately gratifying for a more successful future. The end.
I never used the words “abstinence only” – that was the headline.
Suggesting humans are going to not f@ck because of (insert bullshit here) is denying human nature.
I hope she profited enough from her books to get her kids out of that town and buy a nice double-wide somewhere.
Liz
9 years ago
“Suggesting humans are going to not f@ck because of (insert bullshit here) is denying human nature.”
Yeah, once you hit age 12 it’s just beyond anyone’s control. Like amoebic dysentery.
setnaffa
9 years ago
“Right Wingers Go Nuclear On Social Media Over SCOTUS Obamacare Ruling” sez the tbone, who have never engaged in hyperbole… 🙂
“Suggesting humans are going to not f@ck because of (insert bullshit here) is denying human nature” because no one ever exercises any willpower over their voluntary body functions. Not ever. In Leon’s World, anyway. Remind me to not shake hands with people from that planet without gloves.
Adrian Peterson is back with the Vikings. Now maybe they can win two games in a row.
41 “because no one ever exercises any willpower over their voluntary body functions. Not ever. In Leon’s World, anyway.”
Not my world, as I’ve never had a child out of wed-lock, but certainly Ms. Palin’s world. Are you prepared to condemn her? Imagine for a moment this was Oblame-O’s daughter who had been profiting from pushing abstinence and slut shaming others while getting preggers out of wedlock – twice. I wonder what your comments would be like then…. 😉
#JadeHelm15
tbonetylr
9 years ago
Brown Boy Richard Matt Shot and Killed by Police but I’m thinking this White Boy David Sweat will be taken in/arrested with respect like Dylann Storm Roof.
49. Dogs and cats living together? That ought to be against the law!
tbonetylr
9 years ago
GREAT WEEK for normal Americans, GOP’ers FREAK-OUT over Supreme Court decisions/follow Supreme Court Justices(Clarence Thomas/Scalia as well as Ted Cruz & Jindal & Co.) in the GO CRAZY FREAK-OUT!!!
ChickenHead
9 years ago
“Obama sings Amazing Grace”
I thought his rendition of Follow the Drinking Gourd was better.
…though, thematically , Jimmy Crack Corn is closer to what he has done to America.
I have a dream. I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by whether they can carry a tune in a bucket. I have a dream today.
Jeb Bush doesn’t know shooters heart but knows the heart of the 9 killed, he must watch FoxNOTnews…
‘I Don’t Know’ If Charleston Shooting Was Racially Motivated ~ Jeb Bush
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jeb-bush-charleston-shooting-remarks
“S.C. church shooting suspect said he wanted ‘to kill black people,’ official says”
Racist Manifesto linked to Charleston SC shooter Dylann Storm Roof. I must say he has a point about veterans…
http://gawker.com/here-is-what-appears-to-be-dylann-roofs-racist-manifest-1712767241
“I hate the sight of the American flag. Modern American patriotism is an absolute joke. People pretending like they have something to be proud while White people are being murdered daily in the streets. Many veterans believe we owe them something for “protecting our way of life” or “protecting our freedom”. But im not sure what way of life they are talking about. How about we protect the White race and stop fighting for the jews…”
NRA can’t be liking this video ‘Voices From Within’ and what the New York Police Department is doing…
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/i-took-his-buddy-away-him-n379226
Given that the NRA helprd Harry Reid get elected and reelected for so many years, is tbone finally beginning to criticize the Democrats? If so, we welcome something balanced from him.
tbone supports Bill Clinton and Al Gore, right?
HBO’s ‘Requiem for the Dead’: A deep wallow in gun-related senselessness
Tonight @ 9:00 p.m. eastern ~ 8.000 + dead from gun violence in spring of 2014/32.000 + dead throughout 2014/88 dead from gun violence each and every day.
But we didn’t hear much about all those deaths did we? No! We mostly heard about the 4.000 or so deaths of volunteer war dogs fighting for and trusting war hawks and non-Christians dealing in manufacturing weapons.
“Duplicity is the currency of today…they say one thing and do another” ~ Pope Francis
Instead we’ve mostly heard the “usual suspects”(with FoxNOTnews leading the way) hyping the unjust Iraq war and stupidly fought Afghanistan war for the past 15 years.
32.000 x 15 = 450.000 domestic American gun violence deaths!
4.000 / 15 = ONLY 267 WAR DOG “terrorism” deaths in 15 years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/hbos-requiem-for-the-dead-a-deep-wallow-in-gun-related-senselessness/2015/06/21/86f12f18-153a-11e5-89f3-61410da94eb1_story.html?wprss=rss_style
“Requiem for the Dead,” directed by Shari Cookson and Nick Doob (whose last HBO project, “Paycheck to Paycheck,” followed the daily travails of a working mom), will only make you feel worse, but maybe that’s what’s needed: In some new depth of disgust in ourselves and what we’ve become, can there be an awakening? The film is notably free of a direct anti-gun harangue, though I’m sure it will be dismissed by the gun lobby as just one more emotion-heavy attempt to threaten the right to bear arms.
Yet the film triumphs in making viewers feel the true loss of the lives of people we never knew. Assembled entirely from social network posts, 911 calls and media reports — and without any narration or direct interviews — “Requiem for the Dead” zooms in on the circumstances of eight shooting deaths that occurred between March and June of last year — eight of the approximately 8,000 who lost their lives in gun-related murders, suicides or accidents in the same three-month time period.
The saddest fact is that you can probably supply the narratives of both the victims and the shooters without me telling you, because the circumstances are so common:…”
SC Confederate Rag-flag Myth that lived for decades, was taught and repeated by GOP’ers and their fellow haters(White Supremacist Who Influenced Charleston Suspect ~ Shooter, Dylan Storm Roof ~ Donated to 2016 G.O.P. Campaigns)…
http://empathyeducates.org/Journeys-to-and-through/clyburn-op-ed-the-confederate-battle-flag-should-come-down-from-the-statehouse/
Op-Ed by Congressman James E. Clyburn ~ Removing the Confederate Battle Flag from the dome of the Statehouse and placing it in front, gave it the appearance of sovereignty. #embarrassing.’
“The tragedy that occurred Wednesday night in Charleston, S.C., has engendered many personal emotions about race and reopened a conversation about a controversial and divisive symbol. Let us begin with several little-known but well-documented facts about that flag currently flying in front of the statehouse. It is not the Confederate flag. It is the Confederate “battle flag.”
Second, the version of that flag that flew on the statehouse dome from 1962 until 2000 was an elongated version of the battle flag and is also known as the “Tennessee flag.” In fact, it is the flag that Nathan Bedford Forrest used as a rallying symbol when he founded the Ku Klux Klan, and was popularized by that iconic movie, “Gone With the Wind.”
The real Confederate flag commonly known as the “Stars and Bars” contained a circle of 13 stars and three bars. For years, advocates tried to get the “battle flag” adopted as an official symbol but it was always rejected, even by the Daughters of the Confederacy.
Another little-known fact is that most South Carolinians who fought in the Civil War never fought under that flag. Many fought under the Citadel Flag which was similar to our current flag, but with a red rather than blue field, and a white crescent and palmetto tree.
So this notion that thousands of South Carolinians fought and died under that flag flying in front of the statehouse is a myth. Our legislators would do themselves and our state great proud if they would furl the “battle flag,” place it in a museum so all South Carolinians can become unified around symbols in which all of us are invested and to which all of us can pledge allegiance.”
Ho-hum…
As we have demonstrated over and over with CDC and FBI reports, most gun deaths are suicides… and most gun murders are blacks killing blacks.
Nothing to see here… move along.
Law Enforcement More Afraid Of Right Wing Attacks Than Islamic Extremism: Survey
Have you ever heard of the Hutaree Militia(video)? But conservatives don’t believe the report(video) even though the report was commissioned by the Bush administration(they pretend to forget and don’t mention that part).
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/law-enforcement-more-afraid-right-wing
“C&L has been covering the rise of right wing extremist violence since our beginning days and we’ve seen a huge increase in their behavior ever since President Obama took office. Back in 2009, the DHS issued an excellent report on right wing extremism, which was immediately attacked by Conservatives as a veiled attempt of bias againts all things Conservative and whatever conspiracy theory they could come up with…,
Our own David Neiwert wrote an exceptional piece debunking their outrage:
Because, you know, the report — which in fact is perfectly accurate in every jot and tittle — couldn’t be more clear. It carefully delineates that the subject of its report is “rightwing extremists,” “domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist groups,” “terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks,” “white supremacists,” and similar very real threats described in similar language.
Nothing about conservatives. The word never appears in the report.
As we’ve seen the report has been right on. A new survey taken in collaboration with the Police Executive Research Forum found that law enforcement is much more worried about dealing with right wing extremism than with ISIS…
… “Far-right extremism was not just anti-government folks, it included white supremacists and other forms of right-wing extremism as well,” Kurzman told TPM. “So it’s possible that [the Charleston shooting] is indeed part of the overall threat of right-wing extremism that we found law enforcement agencies quite concerned about.”
The right wing talking point is that liberals do as much damage as right wing fanatics so there is no there there, but the facts don’t hold up to scrutiny. The favorite beltway axiom that both sides do it is nonsense and this new survey reveals again how worried law enforcement is when it comes to homegrown right wing terrorists and they should be…
…What’s strange is that usually Conservatives are in lockstep with law enforcement except when it comes to this issue. I guess it touches a little close to home for them.”
I’m not surprised that tbone assumes someone is what they call themselves; but just because someone calls themselves a [insert label here] doesn’t mean they are. Look up the definition of “false flag” and “moby”…
Not to mention the fact that tbone seems to think no cops are Democrats, Liberals, or Statists. Because we all know there are no police in Workers’ Paradises like Venezuela or North Korea.
Like prostitution and human trafficking being lumped together as an absolute, this definition of “right wing” is composed of a lot of groups that are only classified that way because they aren’t really left wing… or the left wing won’t claim them regardless of their shared values.
Racists groups, sovereign citizens, anti-government campaigners, anarchists, survivalists, extreme loners, Christian cults, conspiracy theorists, libertarians, etc., are not all clearly “right wing” in the way it is being presented.
But the police are right to fear them. For the most part, these groups leave others alone and expect to be left alone. When they are pestered for what frequently is a victimless “crime”, they can become dangerous… especially as their harassment is exactly what they most fear and what they are most willing to fight against.
Since the police are on the front line of dealing with these people to enforce laws that these individuals may not see as correct or just… and many times, the police are doing so individually instead of with a large militarized group, it makes perfect sense for the police to fear them more than Islamic terrorists where Officer Friendly will simply show up to make a report of the smoking carnage while the SWAT team assembles for the raid on the perps.
This survey is a non-issue… except to give “right wing” a bad connotation so that other targeted groups can be linked to “right wing” to create guilt by association.
Let’s look at some statistics from the FBI’s website. I will report here as I find the info. Let’s see where it leads.
(Google the quote to find the source)
“According to statistics collected by the FBI, 76 law enforcement officers were killed in line-of-duty incidents in 2013. Of these, 27 law enforcement officers died as a result of felonious acts, and 49 officers died in accidents.”
So… 27 law enforcement officers were killed in 2013… not quite the “cops blown away with UZIs every day” meme… but at about one every other week, it is probably too many.
Now, let’s see who the cops should fear…
“Profile of alleged known assailants
In 2013, 28 alleged offenders were identified in connection with the 27 law enforcement officers feloniously killed. Of those offenders, the following characteristics are known:
– The average age of the alleged offenders was 30 years old.
– The average height was 5 feet 9 inches tall, and the average weight was 177 pounds.
– 26 of the alleged offenders were male, 1 was female, and gender was not reported for 1 offender.
– 15 of the alleged offenders were white, 11 were black, and race was not reported for 2 offenders.
– 20 of the alleged offenders had prior criminal arrests.
– 6 of the alleged offenders were under judicial supervision at the time of the incidents.”
The first thing of note is that 42% of the cop killers in 2013 were black… despite making up 13% of the population.
It must also be pointed out that the lack of Hispanics is noticeable. Maybe they just don’t kill cops. Or maybe this is due to the trend of reporting Hispanics as “white” in many data sets.
“FBI numbers show that of the 565 people accused of murdering police officers since 2004, 289 have been white and 243 have been black.”
It must have been a slow year in 2013… as a larger data set shows blacks make up 46% of cop killers… while making up 13% of the population… a 354% over-representation. Maybe racist cops shouldn’t have been hassling them over how many bullets were in their guns.
A very quick search didn’t produce a color-coded graph indicating if these cop killers were right wing terrorists… but, with only 27 dead cops in 2013, detailed news on the incident and a bit of information on the cop-killer should be pretty easy to find.
A quick random sample indicates far more Obama supporters on some form of public assistance than Christian conservatives.
Anyone who thinks this suspicion might be incorrect is welcome to Google all 27 incidents and produce a report.
It appears everyone is full of shyt here.
Cops need to fear black people with a criminal record…
…and they do.
Cornel West: Obama Is First ‘Niggerized’ Black President(video)…
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/cornel-west-obama-first-niggerized-black
“Cornel West appeared with Poppy Harlow just ahead of Nikki Haley’s announcement about the removal of the confederate flag from the statehouse grounds. He had some particularly strong words to say about white supremacy and how President Obama has dealt with issues of race…”
Michael Moore Speaks The Truth On Twitter; Right Wingers Lose Their Minds Over It…
“Conservatives absolutely love to hate filmmaker Michael Moore. Anytime Moore so much as speaks a line of truth to power, they collectively go bonkers, lose their minds, and line up to attack him.
And it has happened yet again. This time as the result of a comment he posted on Twitter shortly after the horrible deaths of nine churchgoing people in Charleston, South Carolina, at the hands of admitted murderer Dylann Roof. Moore wrote:…”
http://www.liberalamerica.org/2015/06/23/michael-moore-speaks-the-truth-on-twitter-right-wingers-lose-their-minds-over-it/
“Is any part of that statement the least bit incorrect? Not that I have been able to determine from doing research online. Moore is correct: A white terrorist did indeed kill more people in the span of two minutes than ISIS has over the past two years. So who is the real threat to our country?
But the reaction online from the right wing trolls and assorted digital vampires was almost immediate. Here’s some of what has been posted over the past three days:…”
Like prostitution and human trafficking being lumped together as an absolute, this definition of “left wing” is composed of a lot of groups that are only classified that way because they aren’t really right wing… or the right wing won’t claim them regardless of their shared values.
So… 27 law enforcement officers were killed in 2013…
And so, we have no idea how many citizens were killed by cops in 2013 because there is only a half-hearted system with voluntary reporting. I wonder, when there are so many things which are mandatory to report on why we don’t report this most basic statistic. It might be very informative. It also might piss the people off.
Respectful Arrest Video of SC White Racist Shooter/Killer/Terrorist Dylann Storm Roof…
http://myfox8.com/2015/06/23/dashcam-video-shows-arrest-of-charleston-church-shooter-in-shelby/
Let’s compare that to the non-respect a black man breaking up a fight or so-called selling cigarettes being harassed again, assaulted, and killed by NYC police receives…
‘I can’t breathe’: Eric Garner put in chokehold by NYPD officer – video
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/dec/04/i-cant-breathe-eric-garner-chokehold-death-video
Would you like to see how much respect a 14 year old black girl in a bikini receives during her arrest?
Leon, it is clever to quote me and reverse the adjectives so as to give equal time to both sides of the issue…
…but it is more clever to do that and then give examples.
Name a media-promoted “left wing terrorist” that was actually a right wing terrorist. There may be some. I cannot think of any off the top of my head.
In support of my statement, I will offer Jared Lee Loughner, who shot U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords.
Because he used a gun, shot a Democrat, hated the government, and believed in conspiracy theories, he was quickly labeled as right wing. Closer inspection, that never made the front pages, showed that he was an anti-religious druggie…
‘“As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy,” the former classmate, Caitie Parker, wrote in a series of Twitter feeds Saturday. ‘
Perhaps, as he was simply batshyt crazy, the whole left wing/right wing dichotomy breaks down… but it didn’t stop the media from pushing the “right wing terrorists” narrative until it quietly went away.
Another example might be Chris Dorner, who was originally pushed in the media as being a Tea Party member and Bush supporter… until his manifesto went public and showed support for Obama, a desire to see Hillary as president in 2016, and dislike of the NRA.
So. There are two examples (very much off the top of my head) which support my statement. You are welcome to give examples which support your version.
Leon, consider this important information…
While offhand comments on the internet aren’t necessarily suitable for true understanding or a “diagnosis” of someone’s mental health, be aware that your very obvious shift over the last few years from intelligent thoughtful comments based on facts to mostly pointless or even nonsensical reactionary comments based on vague and undefined ideology COULD be meaningful to observers.
In fact, this exact action fits the profile of many of these “terrorists”, right and left, who eventually make the news through mental decline followed by semi-untargeted violence.
A professional profiler might look at your comment history and suspect things like hopelessness at work, marriage breakdown, drug use, financial problems, or other personal failures internal or external.
I am not saying this is the case… you may be living a wonderful life and be far too busy to write thoughtful comments… but based on your previous history of thoughtful comments, it would be more fitting to write nothing at all.
This is just an observation, Take it as you will.
It would be a pleasure to see the old wise Leon back writing entertaining and fact-supported comments instead of one who frequently sounds more like Tbone spouting off nonsense in the midst of a glue high.
Alarming Statue of a Racist and Horse off Tennessee Interstate standing 25 feet tall and surrounded by 10 or so Confederate flags Perfectly Honors The Confederacy and KKK Wizard/Founder Nathan Bedford Forrest…
Attorney to Martin Luther King’s killer James Earl Ray built the ugly thing. The “sculpter” who built it is named Jack Kershaw and he claimed that his client James Earl Ray was the innocent patsy of a mystery man named Raul who masterminded the conspiracy to kill the civil rights leader. Kershaw was also a Southern secessionist and segregationist who helped found the League of the South. In 1998 he sculpted a monument of Nathan Bedford Forrest.
http://gawker.com/alarming-statue-of-a-racist-and-horse-perfectly-honors-1713422930
Rachael Maddow explains it very well…
Rachel Maddow reports on a renewed effort to do away with a Nashville statue memorializing the first KKK wizard, Nathan Bedford Forrest, just one among many new actions being undertaken to expunge racist, Confederate symbols from mainstream America. WATCH!!!
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/states-seek-to-remove-confederate-symbols-470303811672
What’s wrong with a private statue celebrating the wonders of racism?
It matches America’s official tribute to plagiarism and serial adultry in the name of Jesus.
http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/early-morning-at-the-martin-luther-king-jr-memorial–washington-dc-brendan-reals.jpg
tbone and others foget it was Democrats who tried to seceed to protect their “right” to own slaves. It was Democrats who founded and ran the Klan. It was Democrats who created and enforced Jim Crow. It was Democrats who segregated schools and lunch counters. It was (and is) Democrats who use “Affirmative Action” to promote the idea that blacks are not smart enough to score as high as whites or Asians in school. Racial quotas are needed, say Democrats, to allow blacks to access Higher Education.
And now blacks support the old White Democrats who have done so much for them.
Makes one wonder.
Charleston Shooter a Conservative? Yeah. Not so much. He supported Democrat and Progressive ideas.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/20/dylann_roof_details_white_supremacist_worldview_in_shocking_online_manifesto.html
Democrat ideas? Like the Klan.
Progressive ideas? Reread the public works of Aldous Huxley, Margaret Sanger, GB Shaw, Woodrow Wilson, and Cecil Rhodes.
And Leon is not excused from this exercise. 🙂
THE LIST:
– Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Registered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occupy guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
– James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.
– Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
– Ohio bomb plot derps were occupy Wall St leftists.
– Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
– Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.
– Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat – killed Kennedy…
Just give us 10 “Conservatives” who were mass shooters and I’m sure you can avoid this conversation again.
Careful, Setnaffa…
1. The Democrat and Republican parties have changed every few decades… and are continuing to change. Both parties have had their high and low points.
Criticizing Democrats for what they did 50 years ago is like praising the current crop of fake Republicans for the Reagan era.
It is very easy to criticize Democrats based on current beliefs and behavior… Republicans, too.
2. Your list looks suspiciously like a chain email gone wrong…. and I would make an effort to verify it before posting.
Seung-Hui Cho got my attention. As was heavily discussed around here at the time, he was not a U.S. citizen… so could probably neither vote nor be a “registered Democrat”.
Few of these spree/rampage killers seem to fit neatly into Democrat/Republican/liberal/conservative boxes no matter how hard the left and right media try to shoehorn them into it… though it doesn’t stop both sides from trying through misrepresentation, selective reporting, and outright lies.
In reading their writings, it is easier to find random crazy than clear ideology.
What you seek will be hard to find in the pool of mass shooters. Try looking at professional leftist terrorists like Bill Ayers and the Unibomber…
…but be aware, for every one of them, there is a conservative Christian killing abortion doctors.
You might also consider that almost all of the black-on-black and black-on-white crime is committed by Obama supporters and Democrats… though they are such a low-education/low-information group that it is almost insincere to assign much meaning to that. They just gravitated to like skin color and promises of social bribery rather than a belief in a larger ideology.
Nonetheless, you can make a pretty good case that two thirds to three quarters of gun deaths are committed by Democrats.
That might be worth pinning down with some hard statistics.
Chickenhead did all my work for me both with setnaffa’s 1850 and 1950 democrats and shooters. Setnaffa gets very confused when it comes to facts versus perception. I do not blame setnaffa, an education based on indoctrination in magick and the supernatural makes one credulous and susceptible to all sort of bullshit. Usually when setnaffa is directly questioned on posted “facts” he goes on a short vacation and shows up later in another thread, much the same strategy as our long time lurker who has thrice refused to define his “traditional America” he claims I seek to destroy.
/wipes hands on pants and strolls toward the door…
Leon, I am distrustful of Setbaffa’s list… and we should all debate issues by twisting facts rather than creating fiction…
…but I gave you two examples of left-leaning spree killers who the mainstream media clearly represented as right wing… but on closer examination of their actual written thoughts seem to clearly lean to the left.
Did you have some counter examples where right leaning “terrorists” were represented as left leaning by the mainstream media? Or even a comment on my previous thoughts?
Don’t be a longtimelurker hypocrite.
As you noted, I just do not have time to devote to proper research on the topic and do it justice. I am not sure what the “MSM” actually is any more. The most popular network seems to rant about the MSM yet would be the MSM. The whole left/right debate is tiresome enough. When we then add what should probably be considered mental illness to the equation, does it matter?
“does it matter?”
It is likely that the vast majority of problems facing America today are due to opportunists with selfish or malevolent intent taking advantage of the apathy of Americans.
“Does it matter?” is the friend of many of your enemies… even if you do not fully recognize it.
This did not come about by accident.
“Does it matter?” has been cultivated… by buying citizens off so their short-term needs are filled at the expense of long-term good, focusing their attention on things that do not matter but seem more important than thing that do matter, and by promoting a sense of hopelessness and making it easier to pretend it does not matter than recognizing that it does and then fighting the Man over it.
The left/right debate is never tiresome… nor should it be. Involved citizens endlessly communicating, while filtering out the propaganda, misinformation, social engineering hijacks, etc., keep the left and right on a balanced middle path… selecting the best parts of both ideologies while rejecting fringe elements… for the betterment of all citizens.
Due to the “does it matter” mentality of so many Americans, the left and right have now joined forces against the citizens… making a show of squabbling over things that really don’t matter while secretly agreeing on things that do matter. The radical fringe gets the most attention and the worst parts of both sides are pushed on the population.
If you really think it does not matter, it is because you are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
But to your credit, you did comment… which is more than most of the limp-diicks around here can say,
My son’s SAT score was 700 reading, 650 math.
We just got the test results this morning and he is devastated.
Back when I was in college that was a really great score.
Now he needs to break 700 in math or it’s mediocre. He can’t figure out what he did wrong either, because he thought he had everything right and checked twice.
Kids have a lot more stress today than they used to, with all the talk of ‘slacking’, Ferris Bueller days are over.
So… One needs to be a US Citizen to be a registered voter… You should Tell Houston, San Antonio, and San Francisco…
When someone claims “right wing does the same” it is interesting to see them then claim they have no time to research.
And then pretend to be cool.
There’s lies and damned lies. And the “Oh! It doesn’t matter anyway” misinformation is the worst sort of bovine scat.
But the good news is that the folks they elected have already run out of other people’s money and the supporters are now considered fair game.
Right Wingers Go Nuclear On Social Media Over SCOTUS Obamacare Ruling
If Trump wins or any other GOP 2016 presidential candidate wins(ain’t gonna happen) he/she won’t be able change the ACA(Affordable Care Act/Obamacare) alone.
http://www.liberalamerica.org/2015/06/25/right-wingers-go-nuclear-on-social-media-over-scotus-obamacare-ruling/
“I suppose it was to be expected.
When the 6-3 ruling on the Obamacare subsidies came down from the Supreme Court this morning, the reaction from the right wing of the country started up, and they were filled with anger, lies, distortions, and flat out hate speech.
In other words, some things never change.
All you had to do was take a peek at Twitter and Facebook to see just how agitated the right wingers were. Here are a few of the posts that caught my eye:
“#Obamacare justice Roberts still blackmailed for adoption of two foreign kids provides key vote for Obamacare. He is still a trader.”
…
“I’ll end with another of my personal favorites:
“America does not have a single king ruler, but instead has 9 kings/queens who’s dictatorial-esk power rule us all. #SCOTUScare“
Really? Stupid-esk much?”
Hackers Stole Secrets of U.S. Government Workers’(and CONTRACTORS) Sex Lives
So Mr. Hack(ROK DROP gov’t CONTRACTOR and self-proclaimed hacker of my so-called personal information/EGGHEAD) got hacked and below is what he’s been hiding…
Shhh, he’s been practicing bestiality…what other sickly things is he into? Answers are below…
‘Hackers Stole Secrets of U.S. Government Workers’(and CONTRACTORS) Sex Lives’
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/24/hackers-stole-secrets-of-u-s-government-workers-sex-lives.html
“Infidelity. Sexual fetishes. Drug abuse. Crushing debt. They’re the most intimate secrets of U.S. government workers. And now they’re in the hands of foreign hackers.
It was already being described as the worst hack of the U.S. government in history. And it just got much worse.
A senior U.S. official has confirmed that foreign hackers compromised the intimate personal details of an untold number of government workers.
Those details, which are now presumed to be in the hands of Chinese spies, are found in the so-called “adjudication information” that U.S. investigators compile on government employees and ~ CONTRACTORS ~
…who have applied for security clearances. The exposure suggests that the massive computer breach at the Office of Personnel Management is more significant and potentially damaging to national security than officials have previously said.
Likely included in the hackers’ haul: information about workers’ sexual partners, drug and alcohol abuse, debts, gambling compulsions, marital troubles, and any criminal activity.
Those details, which are now presumed to be in-the-hands-of CHINESE SPIES…,
…
This official, who requested anonymity, added that adjudication information would give foreign intelligence services “enormous leverage” over U.S. personnel whom they might forcibly interrogate for information or try to recruit.
Adjudication information would include the results of polygraph examinations, both former U.S. officials said. The exam can be extraordinarily intimate, bordering on humiliating. One former official said a polygrapher once asked if he’d ever practiced bestiality….
…By design, adjudication is an invasive process, meant to unearth risk factors including drug and alcohol abuse, extramarital affairs, a history of violence, and other events that speak to a person’s “trustworthiness” and their susceptibility to blackmail or being recruited to spy for a foreign government.
For instance, “compulsive gambling is a concern, as it may lead to financial crimes including espionage,” the guidelines say. Adjudicators are told to note “a pattern of compulsive, self-destructive, or high risk sexual behavior,” “relapse after diagnosis of alcohol abuse,” and “emotionally unstable, irresponsible, dysfunctional, violent, paranoid, or bizarre behavior,” among other warning signs in 13 categories…
I THINK ONE OF THE BELOW DESCRIBES HIM, and NOW THE CHINESE GOT HIM…
“Another applicant who’d held a clearance for 25 years while serving in the military had an affair with his former college roommate’s wife “on and off for more than twenty years,” his adjudicator noted. The applicant told the wife about the affair in 2014, and they’re “working through their problems.”
“A third applicant was reprimanded by his supervisor for accessing pornography on his work computer. He had “not told his wife about these issues because he feels embarrassed by his conduct,” his file notes.
Sometimes when things do not go your way it doesn’t mean there is a conspiracy, or a cabal. Sometimes we are just wrong.
OblammoScare is a craptacular political compromise crafted from various half assed republican and democrat compromises that hovels it. Everyone knows single payer was the way to go, all the other civilized countries figured it out.
Anyway, here’s some delicious daily hypocrite karma pay back aka hypocrite shaming.
Abstinence-only spokesperson and profiteer Bristol Palin is pregnant with her second out-of-wedlock child.
When is Jeb! going to man up and call her out. Another liar.
I could care less who she screws or how often but she should take personal responsibility and she should not spread lies for profit to children.
These people don’t believe or live by the bullshit they spew. The masses cling to them anyway even after almost daily outings of their leaders, whether they be politicians, preachers, reality show freaks or whatever combination of those things the Palin’s are…
Abstinence didn’t work for her, again. And please don’t defend it as I’ll present my rebuttal in advance: The Virgin Mary is the ultimate proof of the failure of abstinence for birth control.
N Charleston officer fired for posing in rebel flag underwear
Look at NumbNuts below or rather the Right-Wing GOP’er…
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150625/PC16/150629550/1009&source=RSS
A North Charleston police officer has been fired because he posted a photo of himself wearing Confederate flag boxer shorts.
Shannon Dildine, who was a sergeant and with the force since 1996, was sent a letter Wednesday from Police Chief Eddie Driggers detailing why the department let him go.
He was terminated because it was determined that the posting would make him incapable of effectively serving as a North Charleston officer.
“On Tuesday … the City learned that you posted on Facebook a photograph in which you were wearing only a pair of boxer shorts emblazoned with the image of the Confederate flag,” Driggers wrote. “Your posting in this manner led to you being publicly identified as a North Charleston Police officer and associated both you and the Department with an image that symbolizes hate and oppression to a significant portion of the citizens we are sworn to serve.”
Further, Driggers said, Dildine could compromise any criminal cases involving minorities because a defense attorney could use the photo call to into question his motivation in making an arrest.”
Nino says Jiggery Pokery
Is that a racial slur Nino made or some Azzhat Aussie vocab ~ HO JU ~ English he’s using via his contempt for the word “State” in the Affordable Care Act law?
Scalia is one demented MoFo…
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2015/06/25/scalia-dissents-jiggery-pokery-sheer-applesauce-in-opinion-upholding-obamacare/#15896101=0
“The 2- page dissent from the Supreme Court’s Thursday ruling upholding Obamacare, read from the bench by Justice Antonin “Nino” Scalia, will long be remembered for its vehemence and flights of name-calling rhetoric.
The opinion could be described as the “full Nino.”
He described one aspect of Chief Justice John Roberts’ majority opinion as “sheer applesauce,” took a poke at what he described as “interpretive jiggery-pokery” and accused his colleagues of “somersaults of statutory interpretation.”
…And one more putdown: “Words no longer have meaning if an exchange that is NOT established by a state is ‘established by a state’…
…Scalia may have an opportunity to top himself Friday or Monday.
He has been a vociferous dissenter in three major gay rights case, culminating with the court’s ruling that threw out a key provision of the federal Defense of Marriage Act as discriminatory. Scalia has made clear his antipathy to the gay lifestyle, and accused colleagues of furthering the “homosexual agenda” with their Lawrence vs. Texas.
A Supreme Court ruling, expected Friday or Monday, could extend marriage equality to all 50 states and wipe from the books bans remaining in 17 states.
“Nino Scalia will likely be reading again from the bench.”
I wonder if we compared the number of females who have gotten pregnant from no sex to the number of females who got pregnant from having sex, which number would be higher?
Guess it’s all a damned mystery.
But, yes, Palin is a hypocrite.
I hope you realize, Leon, that “abstinence only” education is a canard label. There are no sex ed classes in public schools that teach ONLY abstinence. “Abstinence only” is a liberal meme title for sexual education classes that place emphasis on abstinence.
Suggesting that those types of sex ed classes cause pregnancy is like suggesting the nutrition classes cause children to be fat. You’ll see fatter children in poorer and more ignorant areas, for a number of reason but primarily because food tastes good and cheap fatty sugary food tastes best of all (and again, cheap). The poorer the community the more emphasis they have on living for the moment rather than longterm objectives that aren’t as immediately gratifying for a more successful future. The end.
I never used the words “abstinence only” – that was the headline.
Suggesting humans are going to not f@ck because of (insert bullshit here) is denying human nature.
I hope she profited enough from her books to get her kids out of that town and buy a nice double-wide somewhere.
“Suggesting humans are going to not f@ck because of (insert bullshit here) is denying human nature.”
Yeah, once you hit age 12 it’s just beyond anyone’s control. Like amoebic dysentery.
“Right Wingers Go Nuclear On Social Media Over SCOTUS Obamacare Ruling” sez the tbone, who have never engaged in hyperbole… 🙂
“Suggesting humans are going to not f@ck because of (insert bullshit here) is denying human nature” because no one ever exercises any willpower over their voluntary body functions. Not ever. In Leon’s World, anyway. Remind me to not shake hands with people from that planet without gloves.
Adrian Peterson is back with the Vikings. Now maybe they can win two games in a row.
It looks like Japanese men have stumbled across a solution to our sexual assault and out of wedlock pregnancy problems.
We should send military teams over there to learn their ways.
A couple of soldiers just showed up at my door and force married me to my dog. I think we’re going to be very happy together.
#JadeHelm15
/Don’t worry, Evangelicals, they’re not all going to marry. You’ll still have options while out of town on business.
“A couple of soldiers just showed up at my door and force married me to my dog.”
About time you two stopped living in sin.
Thanks CH. At least my dog will now be able to visit me in the hospital should I become seriously ill.
41 “because no one ever exercises any willpower over their voluntary body functions. Not ever. In Leon’s World, anyway.”
Not my world, as I’ve never had a child out of wed-lock, but certainly Ms. Palin’s world. Are you prepared to condemn her? Imagine for a moment this was Oblame-O’s daughter who had been profiting from pushing abstinence and slut shaming others while getting preggers out of wedlock – twice. I wonder what your comments would be like then…. 😉
#JadeHelm15
Brown Boy Richard Matt Shot and Killed by Police but I’m thinking this White Boy David Sweat will be taken in/arrested with respect like Dylann Storm Roof.
47. Some things trump even race. They guy is a cop killer. You can bet there are some itchy trigger fingers in them thar woods.
“At least my dog will now be able to visit me in the hospital should I become seriously ill.”
You can also adopt a litter of kittens…
…though I personally don’t believe adoption is a right for mixed gay marriages.
Obama sings Amazing Grace…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ztjnWPOn_4
What a FANTASTIC rendition, almost as good as me!
But I thought GOP’ers said OBAMA was Muslim/Islam/Quran believer/follower?
49. Dogs and cats living together? That ought to be against the law!
GREAT WEEK for normal Americans, GOP’ers FREAK-OUT over Supreme Court decisions/follow Supreme Court Justices(Clarence Thomas/Scalia as well as Ted Cruz & Jindal & Co.) in the GO CRAZY FREAK-OUT!!!
“Obama sings Amazing Grace”
I thought his rendition of Follow the Drinking Gourd was better.
…though, thematically , Jimmy Crack Corn is closer to what he has done to America.
I have a dream. I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by whether they can carry a tune in a bucket. I have a dream today.