Representative Royce Speaks Out Against Discrimination of Korean-Americans at US Universities
The discrimination against Asian-Americans in the admittance process into US universities has long been a problem with Congressman Ed Royce is now speaking out against:
Being Korean American should not be an obstacle to receiving a top university education. It’s sad I have to make that clear in 2015.
Earlier this year, a coalition of 64 Asian American organizations filed a complaint with the U.S. Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights against Harvard University. The coalition argues that Harvard has set hidden racial quotas and a higher admissions bar for Asian American students, including Korean Americans.
Supporting this case is a mountain of evidence. While the population of Asian Americans has grown rapidly in the United States over the past 20 years, the admission rate for Asian Americans at Harvard University has stayed between 15 percent and 20 percent. This suspiciously flat number is also at odds with data that shows a much higher proportion of high-performing American high school students are of Asian descent. “We have data that suggests that 55 percent of kids with SAT scores of 2300 or higher are Asian,” says scholar Edward Blum, who launched another lawsuit against Harvard last year, accusing the school of racial discrimination in its admissions process.
Harvard claims it does not discriminate against Asian American students, which would be illegal. Instead, Harvard argues that it uses an “individualized, holistic review” process to select students, and that “diversity” is but one of many factors considered.
But Asian American parents are right to be suspicious when their hard-working, high-performing children are shut out of top schools and their less qualified peers are accepted instead. [Korea Times]
You can read the rest at the link, but one’s skin color should not be the deciding factor of who gets to attend a university.
“Representative Royce Speaks Out Against Discrimination of Korean-Americans at US Universities”
…because that’s how Royce rolls?
When will Korean parents realize that top scores doesn’t automatically mean best qualified?
In an educational context, what else would mean best qualified?
Perhaps you are referring to community service or extracurricular activities?
Students of Asian descent probably have everyone beat on everything except sports. I am guessing that in many cases an Asian student who is more well rounded AND has higher grades and test scores is passed over simply to include a certain amount of blacks.
How long will the US have to pursue affirmative action before any major results are seen? How long until everyone figures out that affirmative action really doesn’t work?
Something should be done about this, Harvard in particular. If this is indeed the case, these people are discriminating against Americans and should be punished.
But watch out for those stones!!!!!
When will people realize that Asian-Americans discriminate, and have a very long history of dicriminating against not only each other, but people of darker skin color as well?
Is it not possible that say an Asian working for Harvard, or another school, discriminates against another Asians, or people of color when it comes to admittance into said school? If not why? If anything someone answer that.
The fact is their racist behavoir is generally swept under the rug.
Oh that’s right, only white people are racist, never mind that Asians have a longer history of racism and colonialism than the West… also info swept under the rug.
Maybe someone can ask a former resident of Cho lon about this matter, or a Loatian who has witnessed Viet villages (really colonies) spout up inside their country.
johnnyboy wrote:
In an educational context, what else would mean best qualified? Perhaps you are referring to community service or extracurricular activities?
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Korean-American kids figured out a long time ago that to have any kind of a fighting chance, their admissions applications have to reflect that they participated in these kinds of activities. And that’s why a lot of them will join Boy Scouts for one year, try out for a sporting team (and warm the bench for one year), etc., etc. It has nothing to do with actually wanting to be involved in these activities – it’s all about being able to put it on a university admissions application.
Are administrators supposed to know the difference?
Who cares? It shows they at least have enough initiative to jump through the hoops that universities require them to while Ray Ray and Jamal get pushed through the admission process without having contributed anything to society and barely making the grades.
Johnnyboy…
Guitard will rationalize away success on any level and champion institutionalized failure.
He does it personally, as we are currently witnessing, and he does it professionally… making him part of America’s problem rather than any form of solution.
Resist the temptation to fukk him over… even though it would likely be for the greater good… although there is a line of failures just like him waiting to take his place… pushing their nonsense onto others… sometimes for personal gain, just as Guitard has illegally done.
In this case, nitpicking for contrived fault with a culture that values education and adherence to rules and procedures for a greater good while excusing a culture that wants a free ride and looks for ways to avoid the rules which maintain a functioning society, is reprehensible… and a great reflection into the deeper thinking processes of Guitard… which explains one of the reasons he creates misery around him.
In the end, Johnnyboy, recognize him for what he is and simply make fun of him. You cannot change him, or even shame him… but you can make him grit his teeth and have a sour look for the rest of the day.
I thought he might have just wanted to contribute something about Koreans he had observed or a stereotype he was aware of. I see his point and I am glad to have learned something I didn’t know about Koreans, whether it is a stereotype that rings true or not.
If indeed Korean-American kids do this sort of thing, I don’t think it’s necessarily dishonest. It shows an effort to make themselves marketable, even if it’s something they aren’t passionate about. That sort of thing is required for a successful career in most types of work. I don’t really understand any complaints about it.
Even if they only take up a sport for one year, they still had to split their time between that and studies and whatever else their parents may want them to focus their time on.
Either way, to “take points” off Asian-American applications and add them arbitrarily to blacks’ applications is racist any way you cut it. Honestly, I think people should just abandon these famous, large colleges and head to community colleges, at least to finish the general education requirements for their degrees. It would relieve a lot of the student debt problems.
Frankly, ANY consideration of age, skin color, nationality, religion, or other external characteristics in college admissions is bigoted. Well, except for legal residency for tuition purposes. “Diversity” is another name for Apartheid.
For businesses, it’s a bit different. The First Amendment (“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”) ought to prohibit the Government from deciding with whom I choose ” peaceably to assemble”. If I’m a bigot, I lose customers. My choice, not some bureaucrat’s.
Then again, Bureaucracies are like parasites. They only get bigger as long as you tolerate and feed them. And they build up defenses like Welfare Plantations so there are always enough voters to keep them fed.
A perfect ACT score couldn’t get this student into Yale, Princeton, or Stanford, and he says it’s because he’s Asian-American
http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-wang-says-ivy-league-discriminates-against-asians-2015-5
ChickenHead & johnnyboy: I simply made a statement of fact; that’s neither negative or positive. Just a fact of life for a Korean-American kid trying to get into a good university in the US. If you want to read more into – go ahead.
I acknowledge that you brought something to the conversation that I hadn’t heard before.
All I’m saying is that what you said about Koreans shouldn’t count as a mark against them. If anything it shows they are willing to do what is required of them to secure admission, which should translate into a good future employee as well.
Without me reading into it, please do tell what your opinion is on the matter. Are Korean kids gaming the system or are they simply over compensating for tightened admission quotas imposed on them for being diligent students?
@11, Chickenhead is an EGGHEAD and Johnnyboy lives in a bubble making him BubbleBoy. S. Koreans lie about being in scouts and/or sports. They just get someone to create(forge) a certificate, award, letter, etc…If only Americans would stop discriminating against ONLY S. Koreans in California. Ed Royce(GOPer Congressman of California), is pandering to his S. Korean crowd in California.
Admit to yourself you crave hostile reactions.
johnnyboy wrote: If anything it shows they are willing to do what is required of them to secure admission, which should translate into a good future employee as well.
Without me reading into it, please do tell what your opinion is on the matter. Are Korean kids gaming the system or are they simply over compensating for tightened admission quotas imposed on them for being diligent students?
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As far as being willing to do what is required of them to secure admission and how indicative that is of how they’ll perform later in the work force … I suppose it reflects well upon them. But they really don’t have a choice in the matter … they’re doing what everyone who’s applying has to do. No one gets into Harvard based on grades and test scores alone. So to answer your specific question, “Are Korean kids gaming the system or are they simply over compensating?” Neither. They’re just doing what they have to do.
Just for the sake of discussion – who would you pick if you could only choose one? The kid with a 4.0 GPA who participated in football and Boy Scouts for one year … or the kid with a 3.8 GPA who played football for all four years (and was the starting quarterback for two years) who also achieved the rank of Eagle Scout?
“Just for the sake of discussion – who would you pick if you could only choose one? The kid with a 4.0 GPA who participated in football and Boy Scouts for one year … or the kid with a 3.8 GPA who played football for all four years (and was the starting quarterback for two years) who also achieved the rank of Eagle Scout?”
Which brain surgeon do you want?
The one who graduated at the top of his class and had top scores on all certification exams…
…or the one who didn’t … but is one hell of a tap dancer?
None-the-less, SAT scores for Asians, whites, Hispanics, and blacks have large gaps descending in that order. It is highly insincere to suggest that the Asians all required higher test scores because they didn’t have any extra-curricular activities while blacks could have much lower scores because they were all quarterbacks and eagle scouts.
“None-the-less, SAT scores for Asians, whites, Hispanics, and blacks have large gaps descending in that order. It is highly insincere to suggest that the Asians all required higher test scores because they didn’t have any extra-curricular activities while blacks could have much lower scores because they were all quarterbacks and eagle scouts.”
Agreed. However, my hispanic son has a 4.0 GPA and SAT score similar to the individual there…and I wouldn’t even attempt to try to have him apply to Harvard or any Ivy League school. I’ll be very excited if he could get into the University of Florida (as I and his dad, and his dad’s dad and mom did). He’s going to apply in a couple of weeks, we’re crossing our fingers.
It’s tough times these days, getting into a “major” University. Maybe it’s the football program? The government grants? No idea…
FWIW, no, he doesn’t do extracurricular things.
He’s in great shape…better than any other highschool student I’ve seen, but nothing that looks good on paper. I guess if he was a pasty fat kid in the Spanish club it might help.
Just to add, a person I know has a daughter who applied to the University of Virginia about eight years ago. She had a near perfect SAT score and didn’t get in (not a minority though). Apparently this isn’t a recent problem. Now, most if not all of these students would be able to get in after two years at a community college they could get in easily just about anywhere.
Universities have become a Veblen good.
Honestly as far as scores and extracurricular activities go, I would say the admissions process should probably differ depending on the major. Just like the brain surgeon example, some careers need the smartest applicant possible. Business however might look more favorably on someone who isn’t absolutely the smartest guy but is outgoing.
Liz wrote: “My Hispanic son has a 4.0 GPA and SAT score similar to the individual there … I’ll be very excited if he could get into the University of Florida (as I and his dad, and his dad’s dad and mom did).”
Family legacy is included in the admissions process at the University of Florida. So with a 4.0 GPA, really high SAT score, and a family legacy as extensive as his – he should be a shoe in.
Thanks guitard 🙂
I hope so.
we’ve heard the same…but we we’ve also known people with about the same credentials who couldn’t get in.
Average SAT last semester for entering students was 4.25
The kids are taking online AP courses to elevate their grades…along with extracurricular stuff.
It’s really really tough now. In my day he’d have gotten both entrance and a full ride scholarship. I did.
Of course, on the flip side lots of students with far lower scores go to the community college and then transfer there later.