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tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

GOP for Silencers Buying Ease and Lower Prices.

I wonder which Democrats are “conspiring” with the GOP on this?

GOP Wants To Make Acquiring Silencers For Guns Cheaper And Easier To Buy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gun-silencers-bill_562a405fe4b0ec0a38941ad2?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013&section=politics
“House Republicans on Thursday introduced a bill that would eliminate a federal tax on gun silencers and would weaken licensing requirements that currently make the devices more difficult to buy than most firearms.

The Hearing Protection Act of 2015, proposed by Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.) and co-sponsored by 10 of his colleagues, would do this by removing silencers, which are also called suppressors, from the purview of the National Firearms Act, instead putting them in the same regulatory category as long guns. As its title suggests, the bill’s sponsors are framing it as an effort to keep shooters from damaging their ears.

In 1934, in the wake of Prohibition-era violence carried out by heavily armed bootleggers and gangsters, sound-suppressing devices were included on a list of NFA weaponry and other hardware, alongside firearms like machine guns and short-barreled shotguns. Today, purchases of silencers are still subject to a $200 fee, which covers an extensive FBI background check that can take months to complete.

People looking to buy items covered by the NFA must also go through a specific federal registration process, which is more stringent than the one that governs gun purchases from a Federal Firearms License holder. To get a silencer, for example, a buyer must submit a certification from a local law enforcement official vouching that the silencer will be used for lawful purposes.

The penalties for possession of an unregistered silencer or other NFA hardware, or for using NFA equipment to commit a crime, are also significantly higher than for standard firearms…

…Ladd Everett, director of communications for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, says manufacturers are simply making a financial calculation in the current push to make it cheaper and easier for people to get silencers, despite the potential for misuse.

“The NRA and gun industry view accessories like silencers as potential profit areas, with guns themselves so well-saturated throughout their existing customer base. That’s why we’ve seen this multi-state effort to weaken laws in this area, the obvious consequences for safety be damned,” Everett told The Huffington Post. “It’s about profit, nothing else.”

The market for silencers is growing rapidly, even with the current federal restrictions. According to data released earlier this year by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, there were nearly 800,000 silencers registered under the National Firearms Act as of February 2015 — a 39 percent rise from 2014 numbers, which showed that 571,150 such devices were registered.”

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Walking Dead Kyopo Glenn…if you care…but since nobody reads me anyway…got eaten 😎 😆 ❗

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

……spoiler alert………

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

I’d just dress a zombie up in a gimp suit, spray a little purfume on it, pull out all teeth, and get a schnarlin’ any time I wanted.

She wouldn’t even have to be a hot zombie due to the leather mask with removable mouth cover she would wear.

Come to think of it, she wouldn’t even have to be a she.

Of course I’d have to get some tin snips and remove its pee-pee so I wouldn’t feel all weird and gay when I unzipped the mask and let that zombie get busy.

I could rent my zombie out to military units between battles. I bet a hungry zombie with lubed gums could make a lonely GI finish real quick. I will never be short of MREs or ammo after the zombie apocalypse.

Anybody else have a survival strategy?

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

HuffPo Editor: “Zucchini” is now a Type of Sexual Identity

http://iotwreport.com/huffpo-editor-zucchini-is-now-a-type-of-sexual-identity/

MTB Rider
9 years ago

Snape Kills Dumbledore!

What else you got?

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

“Canadian whale watching ship sinks; 5 dead, 21 rescued”

One thing seems to be true
with this color change trick by the crew.
When all of the spotters
were pulled from the waters
both the whales and watchers were blue.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

“Video shows police officer throwing student across classroom”

Actually, the video shows a police officer responding to a request by a (black) administrator to remove a disruptive student which refused to comply with multiple requests to leave the classroom. The video then shows the police officer doing his job and removing the student from their desk, pulling them quickly clear of their desk so it cannot be used as a weapon or an anchor, and then throwing them, low to the ground, less than one body-length clear of other entanglements in such a way they are very unlikely to be injured.

I’m all for telling the Man to go stick it up his azz whenever possible… but this is on a case-by-case basis. In this case, the classroom cannot be held hostage by one disruptive student. If schools want a good zero-tolerance policy, it should start with having zero-tolerance with anyone who disrupts the education of others… not with stupid shyt like finger guns, pro-military t-shirts, or funny-colored hair… but with intentionally counter-social behavior that is truly disruptive.

As always, there may be further information which modifies opinions… but from only watching the video, and considering the backstory as it has been reported, it seems as if the officer removed the student safely from the desk and quickly put them in a position where they could not cause harm to themselves or others.

The only real question is the speed at which force was employed. Did the officer act too quickly before clearly explaining the situation and the outcome… or had the teacher and then the administrator previously explained what would happen if the student forced them to call the officer.

Also, would a calm compliance hold have been better than forcibly removing the student or would the extreme pain and inevitable bruise been a larger trauma than pulling them from the desk and throwing them a few feet in what was realistically no worse than playground roughhousing which (despite what her lawyer may claim) likely had no real pain or damage.

The chicken-and-egg problem of cops resorting to quick violence to enforce instant compliance of reasonable requests drives citizens to respect no requests made by cops no matter how reasonable.

Dark skin seems to heighten this effect.

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

Why didn’t she comply to authority? Is it bad parenting?

Liz
Liz
9 years ago

CH for president!!!!

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Racist SC cop was caught on cell phone video throwing down a female student. The FBI and justice dept. will investigate. The black female student was “interrupting” because she refused to put her cell phone away when the teacher requested. Funny ain’t it? This wouldn’t be a story if the other students hadn’t used their cell phones to catch the racist cop in action.

“CH for president!!!!”

Your mother does donkeys ❗ EGGHEAD for president 🙄

You see, EGGHEAD is a cop apologist and hasn’t shown us how/where/ he learned that a “black school administrator requested” the young female student be removed. EGGHEAD is full of shyte ❗

The racist cop is on unpaid leave(he must be a low level cop because racist cops almost always get paid while they’re being “investigated” usually by thy own cop department).

“Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott, who requested the independent criminal probe, said at a Tuesday news conference he was “shocked and disturbed” by what the short video showed.

Officials also have uncovered another video, recorded from a different angle, showing the student resisting, “hitting the student resource officer with her fist(after racist cop grabbed her around her neck/head and began his floor throw down she tapped him with her “fist” behind her head) and striking him,” Lott said. “What she does is not what I’m looking at; what I’m looking at is what our student resource officer did.”

Lott added: “She bears some responsibility. If she had not disturbed the school, disturbed the class, we would not be standing here today. It started with her, and ended with my deputy.”

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Update There are several videos of this incident circulating at this point. Here is one from a student’s Twitter account that shows a clearer view. (Some posters have noted a few students continue their work and seem unfazed with the havoc. You will see that in these images.)
http://getschooled.blog.ajc.com/2015/10/26/did-police-officer-cross-line-in-yanking-female-student-out-of-seat-in-south-carolina-high-school/

I say the cop dept. should send enough black cops back to that school to throw down all the white students(who used their cell phones in class catching the white racist cop in action) exactly how the racist white cop did to the young black female student.

This reminds me of the white racist cop in Dallas, TX suburb who threw down a young black female student in a bikini. 😯

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Abortionist Halloween Costume is what I’ll be wearing on the eve of Oct. 31st(as in Back Alley Abortionist with blood and hangers) 😎
http://www.peopleofchoice.com/?attachment_id=528

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Socialism Saves Planet as in ONLY Socialism says Bill Gates because private sector is inept. Microsoft lives on ❗

Andy
Andy
9 years ago

Truck carrying cans of paint thinner explodes into flames

Failing to slow for traffic in the tunnel, the driver swerved to avoid hitting another truck in the same lane.
As a result, the load of cans fell from the vehicle and the sparks creating from the truck hitting the guard rail ignited some of the paint thinner.

20 people are being treated for smoke and burn related injury, The 55-year-old driver of the truck suffered 3rd degree burns to much of his body.

I seen this on liveleak: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f23_1445890232

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

“hasn’t shown us how/where/ he learned that a “black school administrator requested” the young female student be removed.”

Apart from it being widely reported, the black administratir can be seen in a white shirt and tie on the right side of the video.

So what happened?

It appears the teacher did their job by requsting the student to give up their cellphone and then calling an administrator. The administrator did their job by requesting the student leave the classroom and then calling the officer. The officer did their job by removing the student with seemingly the minimum force necessary.

That was the officer’s job. Negotiation and discussion had been exhausted by the time he was called and he was under no obligation to repeat the process. His duty was to enforce by action what administration could not accomplish with talk.

While this is a last resort, it seems correctly applied here.

The alternative is to let the inmates run the asylum.

Tbone, if you were the cop, called to forcibly remove a disruptive student from class that did not respond to verbal requests, what would you have done?

Think carefully… as your answer could demonstrate a great deal of ignorance about how the world works… while a lack of answer will be greeted with unending ridicule for both you and your mom.

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

Wasn’t Tbone once a teacher?

MTB Rider
9 years ago

No. BONEHEAD came to Korea, pretending to be an English Teacher. He was later convicted of many crimes, and then forcibly ejected from his apartment. After that, he returned to the States, where his paint huffing went into overdrive.

Him getting kicked out of his apartment is still on You Tube. Funny to watch him melt down. If only he had actually done his job. But his personality here is pretty much his personality.

He came to this site, hoping for sympathy. He was told to look in a dictionary between shyte and syphillus.

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

Orwell’s 1945 Animal Farm in a 1954 British cartoon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wss6vvFOoeY

Seems like this is the Democrat’s blueprint for success… Note the drunken bodyguards near the end…

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

“Wasn’t Tbone once a teacher?”

Yes, and I had a student break the rule of “No Cellphones in Class” and guess what I did? I’ll tell you what I didn’t do…I didn’t call the police but go ahead…

“Tbone, if you were the cop, called to forcibly remove a disruptive student from class that did not respond to verbal requests, what would you have done?”

I wouldn’t have done what that white racist cop did since he justifiably got fired by his superior. Your teacher or administrator knows nothing about whether the cop acted correctly and obviously neither do you as proven before in your constant police apologist position vs black people(including young skinny black girls/students in a Mckinney, TX pool party bikini).

@20 MTB Rider,
None of your statements were correct PenisRider ❗

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

Tbone, the question was not “What wouldn’t you do?”

Anybody can answer that.

The question asked what you WOULD do.

After all your yapping, if you cannot give a reasonable and workable answer to that question which solves the immediate problem and doesn’t encourage long-term problems, it will make me think you are just messing with me… in which case I will mess back in a way you will find displeasing.

If you have a reasonable answer that I don’t agree with, we can debate it… or you might even come up with a good solution that changes my mind. I can treat you as an adult if you act like one.

…but if you act like a biitch, you will get smacked like one.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

James Fuller Stepp is, according to local law enforcement in Henderson County, North Carolina, a “responsible gun owner.” So responsible that he went hunting, came home, and left a loaded shotgun on the kitchen table at his house. One problem with this scenario: His wife runs a daycare out of their home.

Two-Year-Old Girl Dead When ‘Responsible Gun Owner’ Leaves Loaded Shotgun At Daycare
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/28/two-year-old-dies-loaded-shotgun-babysitter-daycare-video/
Two-year-old Abigail Newman was shot in the neck by Stepp’s still-loaded 20-guage shotgun. Stepp’s wife made a frantic call to 911 Monday morning, telling the operator who answered:

One of the guns was loaded on the table and I didn’t know it. A little girl was shot…

Another pre-schooler dead by gun, more pre-schoolers are killed by guns than cops ❗ Typical cop says…”Ewww, I’m so afraid of doing my job each day.”

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

“The question asked what you WOULD do.”

If that’s the question then why isn’t there a question mark provided by you you EGGHEAD ❓

I’m not a cop but trust the white racist cop superior’s decision to fire the white racist EGGHEAD cop that not only broke cop rules but possibly the LAW ❗ An FBI and justice dept. investigation looming…

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

“After all your yapping, if you cannot give a reasonable and workable answer to that question which solves the immediate problem and doesn’t encourage long-term problems”…followed by EGGHEAD blah, blah, blah jibberish…

My answer is that cops should follow cop training rules which this white racist cop didn’t do. If I were a cop in this situation I would follow my training rules and the LAW ❗

But as a teacher I wouldn’t have called the cops, I could’ve taken care of the situation myself as I’ve done before. 😎

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Head Chokeholds are not proper for cops vs. adult so what made this cop think he should apply it to a young skinny black female student? It’s tragic that the media/story ended up being “black female student hits cop with fist” ~ with her fist behind her head ~ power up skinny girl vs. cop) after the cop grabbed her right hand(the hand she used in self-defense while being slammed to the ground after a white racist cop chokehold), then choked her while tipping her desk back/slamming her to the ground then grabbing her again and throwing her aside like a dog?

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

New Great Movie Starring Cate Blanchett, Robert Redford, Dennis Quaid title “Truth” 2015 about ~
Newsroom drama detailing the 2004 CBS 60 Minutes report investigating then-President George W. Bush’s military service, and the subsequent firestorm of criticism that cost anchor Dan Rather and producer Mary Mapes their careers.

Why ❓ The answers were NEVER answered ❗
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-questions-on-bush-guard-duty-08-09-2004/
EDITOR’S NOTE: A report issued by an independent panel on Jan. 10, 2005 concluded that CBS News failed to follow basic journalistic principles in the preparation and reporting of this Sept. 8, 2004 broadcast.
The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign – a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidate’s credibility as America’s next commander-in-chief.

While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard – and then failing to meet some of his obligations.

Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president’s military service – and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.
It was May 1968, and Vietnam was in flames. In that month, more than 2,000 Americans were killed in combat, and the draft was siphoning thousands more into the jungle.

George W. Bush had just graduated from Yale, and faced the prospect of being drafted himself. But former Texas House Speaker and Lt. Gov. Ben Barnes says he helped keep that from happening.

So what happened with Mr. Bush, the draft and the National Guard? And why is Barnes finally telling his story?

“First of all, I want to say that I’m not here to bring any harm to George Bush’s reputation or his career. I was contacted by people from the very beginning of his political career, when he ran for governor, and then when he ran for president, and now he’s running for re-election,” says Barnes.

“I’ve had hundreds of phone calls from people wanting to know the story. And I’ve been quoted and misquoted. And the reason I am here today … is that I really want to tell the story. And I want to tell it one time. And get it behind us. And again, it is not about George Bush’s political career. This is about what the truth is.”

Barnes is a Democrat who is now actively raising money for Sen. John Kerry. But he was also a Democrat back in 1968, and serving as Texas speaker of the House. At 29, Barnes was a protégé of President Lyndon Johnson. But in keeping with the times, he wielded clout and connections to build a powerful political base.

A few months before Mr. Bush would become eligible for the draft, Barnes says he had a meeting with the late oilman Sid Adger, a friend to both Barnes and then-Congressman George Bush.

“It’s been a long time ago, but he said basically would I help young George Bush get in the Air National Guard,” says Barnes, who then contacted his longtime friend Gen. James Rose, the head of Texas’ Air National Guard.

“I was a young, ambitious politician doing what I thought was acceptable,” says Barnes. “It was important to make friends. And I recommended a lot of people for the National Guard during the Vietnam era – as speaker of the house and as lt. governor.”

George W. Bush was among those he recommended for the National Guard. Was this a case of preferential treatment?

“I would describe it as preferential treatment. There were hundreds of names on the list of people wanting to get into the Air National Guard or the Army National Guard,” says Barnes. “I think that would have been a preference to anybody that didn’t want to go to Vietnam or didn’t want to leave. We had a lot of young men that left and went to Canada in the ’60s and fled this country. But those that could get in the Reserves, or those that could get in the National Guard – chances are they would not have to go to Vietnam.”

This is the first time Barnes has told his story publicly, but for years, the president has been hounded by questions about how he got in the National Guard.

“Any allegation that my dad asked for special favors is simply not true,” said Mr. Bush. “And the former president of the United States has said that he in no way, shape or form helped me get into the National Guard. I didn’t ask anyone to help me get into the Guard either.”
In an interview today with Senior White House Correspondent John Roberts, the president’s communication director, Dan Bartlett, repeated that denial.

Bartlett said this was all part of the Kerry campaign. “I chalk it up to the politics they play down in Texas. I’ve been there. I’ve seen how it works. But the bottom line is that there’s no truth to this,” he says.

“The fact that 55 days before an election that partisan Democrats are recycling the very same charges we hear every President Bush runs for reelection. It is dirty politics.”

Then-Lt. Bush went to Georgia, and completed a difficult pilot training program. He was assigned to duty in Houston, flying F-102s out of Ellington Air Force Base.

Today on the airbase, a mothballed F-102 is emblazoned with the president’s name. But even in 1970, then-Lt. Bush was already something of a celebrity at the airfield. A press release issued that year by his unit points out that the young lieutenant is the son of the local congressman.

Mr. Bush had signed a six-year commitment to fly for the Air Guard, and early on, the young pilot got glowing evaluations from his squadron commander, Col. Jerry Killian.

Killian called Lt. Bush “an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot” who “performed in an outstanding manner.” That is part of the public record.

But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian’s personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about “how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November.”

Lt. Bush tells his commander “he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical.” Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is “talking to someone upstairs.”

Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.

Robert Strong was a friend and colleague of Col. Killian who ran the Texas Air National Guard administrative office in the Vietnam era. Strong, now a college professor, believes these documents are genuine.

“They are compatible with the way business was done at the time. They are compatible with the man that I remember Jerry Killian being,” says Strong. “I don’t see anything in the documents that is discordant with what were the times, what was the situation and what were the people involved.”

“He [Killian] was a straight-arrow guy,” adds Strong. “He really was. I was very fond of him, liked him personally. Very professional man, a career pilot. He took his responsibilities very, very seriously.”

In a memo from Aug. 18, 1973, Col. Killian says Col. Buck Staudt, the man in charge of the Texas Air National Guard, is putting on pressure to “sugar coat” the evaluation of Lt. Bush. Staudt, a longtime supporter of the Bush family, would not do an interview for this broadcast.

The memo continues, with Killian saying, “I’m having trouble running interference and doing my job.”

“He was trying to deal with a volatile political situation, in dealing with the son of an ambassador and former congressman,” says Strong. “He was trying to deal with at least one superior officer, Gen. Staudt, who was closely connected to the Houston political establishment. And I just see an impossible situation. I feel very, very sorry, because he was between a rock and a hard place.”

One of the Killian memos is an official order to George W. Bush to report for a physical. The president never carried out the order.

On Aug. 1, 1972, Lt. Bush was suspended from flying status, due to failure to accomplish his annual medical examination. That document was released years ago. But another document has not been seen until now. It’s a memo that Col. Jerry Killian put in his own file that same day. It says “on this date, I ordered that 1st Lt. Bush be suspended not just for failing to take a physical….but for failing to perform to U.S. Air Force/Texas Air National Guard standards.”

He goes on: “The officer [then-Lt. Bush] has made no attempt to meet his training certification or flight physical.”
Correspondent John Roberts talked with the president’s communications director, Dan Bartlett, and asked about Col. Killians’ order for Lt. Bush to take a physical.

“The memorandum in your possession shows that he spoke to the commander who made that order to talk about his personal situation and the fact that he is going to Alabama,” says Bartlett. “So at every step of the way, President Bush was meeting his requirement. Granted permission to meet his requirement. And that’s why President Bush was honorably discharged.”

However, the questions about Vietnam still follow President Bush and Ben Barnes – and every American who remembers where they were, and what they did during Vietnam.

“By 1968, casualties in Vietnam were running high,” Rather says to Barnes. “Did you or did you not think at that time, ‘I’m a little uncomfortable with this,’ or did you have long talks with your conscience? Did you say to yourself, ‘I’m a little uncomfortable with doing this?'”

“It would be very easy for me to sit here and tell you that I had wrestled with this and lost a lot of sleep at night, but I wouldn’t be telling you the truth,” says Barnes. “I very … not eagerly… but readily was willing to call and get those young men into the national guard that were friends of mine and supporters of mine. And I did it. Reflecting back, I’m very sorry about it. But you know, it happened. And it was because of my ambition, my youth and my lack of understanding. But it happened. And it’s not something I’m necessarily proud of.”

Didn’t conscience come into play here? Strong says it did. “But conscience is a very individual thing. This is the way power works. What you saw is the way power works,” says Strong.

“Power begets power. Power goes to power to get more power. If you have a little bit of power and someone offers you an opportunity to gain more power by doing power a favor, then this is what power does. It trades on itself. It feeds on itself. This is the way the system worked. This is the way the state government worked. This is the way the Guard worked.”

Thirty years after the fact, Barnes says he is one of many Americans still trying to make peace with what he did during the war.

“I’ve thought about it an awful lot. And you walk through the Vietnam memorial, particularly at night like I did a few months ago, and I tell you, you’ll think about it a long time,” says Barnes.

“I don’t think I had any right to have the power that I had, to choose who was going to go to Vietnam and who was not going to go to Vietnam. That’s power. In some instances, when I looked at those names, I was maybe determining life or death. And that’s not a power that I want to have.”

“Too strong or not to say that you are ashamed of it now,” asks Rather.

“Oh, I think that would be somewhat of an appropriate thing,” says Barnes. “I’m very, very sorry.”

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Champagne Unit starred George W Bush etc…staffed by celebrities or wealthy/special Americans from politically powerful families 😎

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

““The question asked what you WOULD do.”

If that’s the question then why isn’t there a question mark provided by you you EGGHEAD ❓”

English isn’t your first language, is it?

There is no question mark hecause that is not a question. It is a statement about the content of the question.

What would you do? (question: requires question mark)

I am asking what you would do. (not a question: does not require a question mark)

Get it?

That aside, you again had no answer… but you did say you could manage it as a teacher.

Very well… I’ll bite.

HOW would you have managed it as a teacher?

MTB Rider
9 years ago

Really, BONEHEAD? Everything I say is false? And so you weren’t kicked out of your apartment for failing to do your job?

Let’s go to the replay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RutuV4l-_I
(Video 1 of 9)

I was here when Tom (not Chickenhead ❗ ) posted your extensive list of crimes from the public database. You are your own worst enemy.

Maybe if you put away your rag and gold spray paint, your brain cells might get a chance to regenerate.

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

The Gods of the Copybook Headings
by Rudyard Kipling, 1919

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

@32, I am sorry to have missed the Debutante Ball… When was it?

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

Whenever you all start biitching about Korea, let me tell you what just happened to me.

It is 5:51am. I am at a 24 hour soup and rice joint that knows me.

Ajuma just informed me that the young guys at the next table who just left… paid my bill.

What does that mean? I do not know. I am well-known in this area and I have a spotless reputation… but that is no reason for a stranger to pay my bill and run… though I frequently “pay it foreward”… so maybe i hooked them up in the past?

I did not recognize them when I did my situational awareness ritual as i walked in.

I am mystified… but I have had lots of cases of semi-strangers hooking me up in the past… so maybe this is just another case of that.

Ajuma says they come in sometimes… so I gave her 20,000w and said to hook them up until it runs out. I can trust her.

This is why I live in Korea. My daily life is filled with good feelings.

In America, I carried a gun.

So that is that.

JoeC
JoeC
9 years ago

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, an agency proposed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren before she was even a senator or in government, and was lobbied very hard against by the financial institutions, is already doing good for the troops.

JoeC
JoeC
9 years ago

@36

if you don’t want to pay to read the link to Stars and Stripes you can read it Here.

MTB Rider
9 years ago

@34: I don’t have the exact date, but it was about the time when the new “Tom” began posting. Our original Tom seems to have moved on, or the job has been filled by a new person.

“New” Tom’s writing style, cadence and word choices implies he is a younger man, and possibly lives in Korea rather than hiding out in Canada like the Old Tom did. He’s not as obnoxious, and has said a few things that makes me think he might be in-country.

CH had all the information on BONEHEAD, gleaned from public records, as well as whatever is in the U.S. But tbone doesn’t (or didn’t) cover his tracks very well. Even a non-hacker like me was able to find his videos easily enough.

English Teacher Good, BONEHEAD? Even your YouTube handle uses bad grammar. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you?

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@38,
You know nothing for which you speak penisrider ❗

How do I know this…?

because penisrider says…
“CH had all the information on BONEHEAD, gleaned from public records, as well as whatever is in the U.S.” 😆

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

Hey Tbone. Shut your pie hole until you explain how, as a cop or as a teacher, you would have managed the situation with a feral “student” with no respect for education and who only understands violence.

Until you address this, nothing that comes out of your little insect mind has any meaning…

…unless you actually agree that little black girls with big mouths really do need the only thing that will civilize them… a hard beatdown from a white guy with good intentions.

JoeC
JoeC
9 years ago
setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

CH, have you seen this about Trump? http://ace.mu.nu/archives/359835.php

Not sure where you stand on Ace, Michelle Malkin, etc.

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

@35, BTW, CH, that is something most folks who accept Korea as Korea discover. Koreans, within their own parameters, are pretty decent folks. Sure, there are folks who lie, cheat, and steal; but Korea is as nice a place to live as anywhere. And nicer than most.

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

For those arguing either the US or Korea should adopt Sweden’s immigration policies: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3297317/Swedish-Foreign-Minister-claims-country-facing-collapse-mass-influx-refugees.html

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

Black school cop charged for hitting black student

According to KFOR, Thomas Jaha, a 25-year veteran with the Oklahoma City Police Department, was working at U.S. Grant High School when a 16-year-old male student appeared in the hallway without a hall pass. The officer reportedly told the student to get to class. A police report, viewed by the news station, indicates that the student ignored several requests made by the officer to get back to his class.

The officer approached the teen and said that the teen took a fighting stance. Jaha said in the report that he believed he needed to defend himself and so he punched the teen in the face. The officer said that after the first punch, the teen again took a fighting stance, so he hit him again with his left fist, KFOR reports.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

“Until you address this, nothing that comes out of your little insect mind has any meaning…”

Since that isn’t true and you are lying I will not answer you EGGHEAD LIAR ❗ So typical of a GOPer that lies/denies facts/truth/math & science i.e. yourself etc…Actually, I asked someone to guess what I did in the past but since nobody guessed FU 🙄

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

Tbone, as always, you have demonstrated yourself to be a mental midget unable to contribute anything or back up your shallow thoughts.

You are a true loser, Tbone… and even you must recognize this… as you are capable of noticing, if not reflecting back on, your life of constant personal and professional failures. Though you blame others in each case, even you must recognize the pattern and start to suspect that it is you and not the rest of the world that is wrong.

But you are such a loser you cannot even take the smallest steps to correct it… repeating your failures over and over and over.

There are so many ways to hurt you… but none of them more satisfying than the ways you hurt yourself.

Your past and your future is one of quiet and angry desperation as those around you get all the respect, all the money, all the pusssy… and you get nothing but ridicule and failure. No wonder you are frustrated and think the solution is to frustrate others.

You can keep on yapping… but it means nothing. You are such an empty person that your rambling complaints and insults have no effect. You cannot make anyone change their mind as you have no content… and you cannot make anyone angry as your writing is truly meaningless.

You are nothing, Tbone. You serve only as a focus of ridicule.

You have been nothing since you were an ignored child. You have been a constant failure as an adult. You will be the lonely old man huffing and puffing with rage that all the children make fun of.

And every time you throw out some lame insult or voice your misguided and shallow opinion with nothing to back it up, you simply remind the entire readership of ROK Drop what a complete loser you really are.

So keep yapping, Tbone… as no matter how bad someone feels or how bad of day someone had, your yapping makes everone feel better by reminding them it could be worse.

One might have broken up with their girl, lost their job, or gotten a boil on their azz… but they can take satisfaction in knowing they aren’t you… which seems to be an unsolvable problem and incurable condition filled with a self-created personal misery.

I would wish you good luck, little man… but you wouldn’t know what to do with it.

So just get by the best you can, loser.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Fiorina NOT Secretary or was she ❓
Unless you’d have everyone believe she went from that/secretary to CEO? Fiorina is like EGGHEAD in that Fiorina says WAPO can’t EVER be trusted since it wrote a story about the Fiorina LIAR and therefore has no “meaning” EVER 😳
Fiorina was just one of the clown GOPer’s that lied, whined, and/or blamed CNBC for asking such difficult questions(what a bunch of BABIES those GOPer WANNABE president are) ❗

Fiorina also lied about other issues including how 92% of women under Obama have been cheated on the job but says this about how she prevailed in the workplace. How can it be so bad or 92% but not her?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/09/25/carly-fiorinas-bogus-secretary-to-ceo-career-trajectory-fact-checker-biography/
“I started as a secretary, typing and filing for a nine-person real estate firm. It’s only in this country that you can go from being a secretary to chief executive of the largest tech company in the world, and run for president of the United States. It’s only possible here.”

————————

The one question New Jersey Mob Boss Chris Christie(Jerry Jones/Cowboys LOVER) refused to answer was the fantasy football question because he believes regular people shouldn’t be able to bet one one team or another straight up or with points(law says “skilled”) but it’s okay to bet on Fan Duel and/or Draft Kings because the NFL, MLB, FoxNOTnews etc…all have millions $$$ invested in non-regulated(law says “non-skilled”) fantasy gambling websites written just for those in mind.

Chris Christie/Ted Cruz etc…are just too stupid to answer the questions asked and whine instead and FOOLS like the majority of FoxNOTnews watchers/GOPers will simply believe what they say about “fantasy” football.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-christie-annoyed-by-fantasy-football-question-at-republican-gop-debate-october-2015/
“Chris Christie grew impatient with the CNBC moderators after a question about fantasy football came up in the third GOP debate.

He burst out, “Are we really talking about getting the government involved in fantasy football? We have – wait a second – we have 19 trillion dollars in debt, we have people out of work, we have ISIS and al Qaeda attacking us, and we’re talking about fantasy football. Can we stop?”

The audience cheered, and he concluded, “Enough on fantasy football – let people play. Who cares?

When moderator John Harwood tried to interrupt him, Christie retorted, “Even in New Jersey what you’re doing is called rude.”

The question, about daily fantasy sports websites, like Fanduel and Draftkings, was actually directed at Bush, who was happy to talk about his own team.

“I’m 7-0 in my fantasy football league. Gronkowski is still going strong,” Bush joked. But he also suggested that online fantasy football websites may be growing quickly into a form of online gambling. “Effectively, it’s day trading without any regulation at all,” he said. Or worse, the industry has lately the use of big data by some players to gain an unfair advantage and win large sums of money in online contests.

Some on Christie’s own staff may have been pleased to hear him defend the pastime — fantasy football as campaign metaphor even made it into a fundraising email pitch. A few weeks ago, in late September, an email for “Team Christie” was sent out by his campaign.

“This is a friendly reminder to double check and submit your lineup before the start of the Giants … game tonight at 8:25 p.m.,” the email read, going on to say, “A double reminder that you need to pick your 2016 lineup! As you saw in the last debate, Team Christie is on offense, and we need your help to keep moving the ball down the field,” and it asked donors to “[v]isit http://www.chrischristie.com/donate and chip in to set up your 2016 lineup with Team Christie today!”

Chris Christie and Sheldon Adelson(Las Vegas, Macau, etc…Gambling Resort Mogul with MACAU on-going corruption INVESTIGATION) sitting in the tree K I S S I N G, first comes LOVE, then come MARRIAGE, then comes a lot of $$$ for MOB(fatazz) BOSS CHRISTIE.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@49,
“I would wish you good luck, little man… ”

“mental midget”

It sounds as though you have a complex with your own condition(littleness/midget) 😆

I’ve seen a picture(posted on ROKDROP) of you punk, and I can assure you that I’m not only bigger than you but also faster than EGGHEAD ❗

EGGHEAD says…”And every time you throw out some lame insult or voice your misguided and shallow opinion with nothing to back it up,…”

You’re such a hypocrite as that sentence defines you perfectly ❗

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

3 links no good and under “moderation” so…
The 3rd slipped in there so I’ll be happy to delete/change it…

Fiorina NOT Secretary or was she ❓
Unless you’d have everyone believe she went from that/secretary to CEO? Fiorina is like EGGHEAD in that Fiorina says WAPO can’t EVER be trusted since it wrote a story about the Fiorina LIAR and therefore has no “meaning” EVER
Fiorina was just one of the clown GOPer’s that lied, whined, and/or blamed CNBC for asking such difficult questions(what a bunch of BABIES those GOPer WANNABE president are) ❗

Fiorina also lied about other issues including how 92% of women under Obama have been cheated on the job but says this about how she prevailed in the workplace. How can it be so bad or 92% but not her?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/09/25/carly-fiorinas-bogus-secretary-to-ceo-career-trajectory-fact-checker-biography/
“I started as a secretary, typing and filing for a nine-person real estate firm. It’s only in this country that you can go from being a secretary to chief executive of the largest tech company in the world, and run for president of the United States. It’s only possible here.”

————————

The one question New Jersey Mob Boss Chris Christie(Jerry Jones/Cowboys LOVER) refused to answer was the fantasy football question because he believes regular people shouldn’t be able to bet one one team or another straight up or with points(law says “skilled”) but it’s okay to bet on Fan Duel and/or Draft Kings because the NFL, MLB, FoxNOTnews etc…all have millions $$$ invested in non-regulated(law says “non-skilled”) fantasy gambling websites written just for those in mind.

Chris Christie/Ted Cruz etc…are just too stupid to answer the questions asked and whine instead and FOOLS like the majority of FoxNOTnews watchers/GOPers will simply believe what they say about “fantasy” football.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-christie-annoyed-by-fantasy-football-question-at-republican-gop-debate-october-2015/
“Chris Christie grew impatient with the CNBC moderators after a question about fantasy football came up in the third GOP debate.

He burst out, “Are we really talking about getting the government involved in fantasy football? We have – wait a second – we have 19 trillion dollars in debt, we have people out of work, we have ISIS and al Qaeda attacking us, and we’re talking about fantasy football. Can we stop?”

The audience cheered, and he concluded, “Enough on fantasy football – let people play. Who cares?

When moderator John Harwood tried to interrupt him, Christie retorted, “Even in New Jersey what you’re doing is called rude.”

The question, about daily fantasy sports websites, like Fanduel and Draftkings, was actually directed at Bush, who was happy to talk about his own team.

“I’m 7-0 in my fantasy football league. Gronkowski is still going strong,” Bush joked. But he also suggested that online fantasy football websites may be growing quickly into a form of online gambling. “Effectively, it’s day trading without any regulation at all,” he said. Or worse, the industry has lately the use of big data by some players to gain an unfair advantage and win large sums of money in online contests.

Some on Christie’s own staff may have been pleased to hear him defend the pastime — fantasy football as campaign metaphor even made it into a fundraising email pitch. A few weeks ago, in late September, an email for “Team Christie” was sent out by his campaign.

“This is a friendly reminder to double check and submit your lineup before the start of the Giants … game tonight at 8:25 p.m.,” the email read, going on to say, “A double reminder that you need to pick your 2016 lineup! As you saw in the last debate, Team Christie is on offense, and we need your help to keep moving the ball down the field,” and it asked donors to “[v]isitchrischristieDOTcom/donate and chip in to set up your 2016 lineup with Team Christie today!”

Chris Christie and Sheldon Adelson(Las Vegas, Macau, etc…Gambling Resort Mogul with MACAU on-going corruption INVESTIGATION) sitting in the tree K I S S I N G, first comes LOVE, then come MARRIAGE, then comes a lot of $$$ for MOB(fatazz) BOSS CHRISTIE.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Hey EGGHEAD what else is bothering you ❓ You act as though I simply didn’t answer your question so I partially explained why but that wasn’t good enough for you so you went on a ridiculous tangent. But let’s be fair, you asked me to “be a cop” i.e. “pretend to be/act as though I’m a cop”…while never being a cop but said I’d tell ya’ll how I handled a young student using a cell phone in class even though it was against the rule but requested someone to guess how I handled the situation.

All you had to do is guess how I handled a student with a cell phone but instead you wrote a ridiculous essay, you’ve got to be on drugs(probably illegally prescribed by witch doctor). You really should do something about your prescriptions/mixed with a alcohol potent drug problem EGGHEAD 😈

You’re one disgruntled SOB EGGHEAD ❗

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

EGGHEAD often as evidence here makes up claims about my past/future which he has no evidence therefor =e no reason to believe unless jaded which of course must be(see comment @49) while claiming…”Your past and your future is one of quiet and angry desperation…”

Pure conjecture from a true blue EGGHEAD ❗

The difference between EGGHEAD and I is that EGGHEAD is an EGGHEAD thinking he knows all about me while I use his most current STUPID and NON-FACTUAL statements(all you gotta do is read this thread) to show what an EGGHEAD EGGHEAD is 😎

EGGHEAD says…”And every time you throw out some lame insult or voice your misguided and shallow opinion with nothing to back it up,”

There you go being a HYPOCRITE again. The truth is completely the opposite in that I do back it up while you DO NOT ❗

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Jeb’s Dead Adiós Amigo
The Bush hit on Rubio was obviously premeditated, so it wasn’t gaffe or a mistake. It was a revealing measure of his political talent and judgment. Let’s count the ways in which it was strategically ill-conceived and tactically incompetent:
https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/jeb-s-dead-adi-s-amigo_1055011.html
That sounds like…”Jed is Dead” from the Quentin Tarantino GREAT movie ‘Pulp Fiction.’

Quentin Tarantino is such a cool dude 😎
Watch his new GREAT 8th film by Quentin Tarantino…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69UwVX6Riv8

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

“Jeb’s Dead”

Thank god that corporate liberal in Republican clothing is dead.

Fortunately, intelligent conservatives could see he leans toward the limousine liberal side socially while being a puppet of corporate America politically… the worst of both liberal and “conservative” traits.

As dumb as Tbone is, at least he can recognize the destructive potential of that turd and can gloat over his failure.

By the way… Quentin Tarantino is a cool dude as long as he is engaged in empty yapping about the manufactured nonsense that is Black Lives Matter so he doesn’t get so much flack when his movies say niggger niggger niggger niggger niggger to the point of weariness.

Hey Quentin, did you see sign?

What sign?

The one that says Black Lives Matter?

No.

You know why you didn’t see that sign? Because black lives engaged in constant destruction of a functioning society don’t matter.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

“Because black lives engaged in constant destruction of a functioning society don’t matter.”

If only white people hadn’t taught black people about protesting and the destruction of property aye 🙄 White people even dressed up for the occasion back in 1773…

“…donning what may have been elaborately prepared Mohawk costumes.[61] While disguising their individual faces was imperative, because of the illegality of their protest, dressing as Mohawk warriors was a very specific and symbolic choice.
That evening, a group of 30 to 130 men, some dressed in the Mohawk warrior disguises, boarded the three vessels and, over the course of three hours, dumped all 342 chests of tea into the water.”

Boston Tea Party Damage

“342 chests of British East India Company tea, weighing over 92,000 pounds (roughly 46 tons), on-board the Beaver, Dartmouth, and Eleanor were smashed open with axes and dumped into Boston Harbor the night of December 16, 1773. The damage the Sons of Liberty caused by destroying 340 chests of tea, in today’s money, was worth more than $1,700,000 dollars. The British East India Company reported £9,659 worth of damage caused by the Boston Tea Party. According to some modern estimates, the destroyed tea could have brewed 18,523,000 cups of tea!”

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

Again, Tbone responds to nothing… because he cannot respond to anything… possibly because he is just plain stupid.

Are you stupid Tbone?

You must be.

Poor stupid Tbone… too stupid to catch on why he was laughed at in grade school, teased in middle school, and ignored in high school… except when others halfheartedly threatened to beat him up just to watch his squirm.

Do you know why we are laughing at you now Tbone?

Do you want to know?

Are you so stupid that you know but can’t control yourself… and continue to be a target of ridicule.

Tbone… how does it feel to watch other guys getting puzzy while girls ignore you or make fun of you?

No wonder you come on here huffing and puffing.

You are just a stupid loser trying to get whatever attention you can get.

It’s OK, Tbone. We will give it to you if it will make you feel better. Babble and yap whatever nonsense gets into your head. We will respond… as bad attention is better than no attention, right?

Poor stupid loser Tbone.

What a wasted life.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

EGGHEAD is a LIAR again, she says…
“Again, Tbone responds to nothing… because he cannot respond to anything… possibly because he is just plain stupid…

Okay EGGHEAD, if you insist that my comment #58 is in response to “nothing” then that means you and your comment is NOTHING you dumb SOB ❗

I quoted you in your EGGHEAD #56 comment(last sentence), but if you insist that that was “NOTHING” then I’ll agree with you…YOU and YOUR comment is “NOTHING.”

BTW, who is the “we” in your “we are laughing” when there was only about 15 or so minutes between my comment and yours and while NOBODY else has commented?

You need to wash your mouth out with soap and back up what you said(it’s impossible so that again makes you a HYPOCRITE) about my grade, middle, and high school years ❓

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

So what would you have done as a tracher or cop to remove a disruptive and uncooperative student from class without resorting to force?

When you clearly explain that, we can move foreward.

Until then, you are just a joke… a buffoon begging to be a target of ridicule.

Setnaffa
Setnaffa
9 years ago

We need to find a better quality butcher shop if the tbones all smell like baloney…

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

They must have dropped this Tbone in the pasture because it smells like bullshyt.

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