In a war, leaders who fail to meet objectives are regularly replaced. And tactics are reviewed for effectiveness, too.
In the so-called wars on Poverty, Drugs, and Terror, there should be fewer people on government assistance, fewer drug addicts, and fewer terrorists. The opposite is true.
We need better leaders AND better tactics. We need people with a vision of victory and a love of America like the Founding Fathers…
ChickenHead
8 years ago
+1 for Setnaffa.
Of course empowerment comes through perpetual conflict rather than resolution.
None of the “solutions” are supposed to work. In fact, they are supposed to make the problem bigger while still giving the appearance that everything possible is being done.
Blame for failure falls on those who just want to be left alone.
One imagines it is in utter disbelief that the Democrats use death at an Infanticidium as a source of gleeful politicizing. The bodies of the dead were not even cold before members of that group were calling for innocent people to be stripped of their civil rights because another lunatic with no connection with anyone decided to murder people.
Shame on your mother, tbone.
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
“No Connection to anyone”
Hmmm, besides FoxNOTnews and Right-Wing pro-birth but Non-Life GOP WingNut “Internets”
BTW, Barack Obama has been President since January 2009. And he’s got a phone and a pen.
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
GOP Mayor Steven Bach leads Colorado Springs where the cop killing GOP news gathering white man attacked/terrorized Planned Parenthood. It was his fault not having more security present to protect health care workers for women. It’s very sad the GOP still wants to block females from receiving health care while trying to control their bodies:shock: 🙁 GOP terrorists must go ❗
@ # 5 setnaffa,
If Friday’s attack had been anywhere else and involved someone yelling “allahu akbar,” the GOPers would still be in full exploitation mode. They would be screaming from the rafters that it’s Obama’s fault because he’s weak, Syrian refugees must be Christians, ISIS is already in America and only they(GOPers) can save America.
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
@ setnaffa the religious RokDrop freak, how can this be or why would black religious leaders support Trump or is the GOP media just fibbing… “Conservative media has trumpeted a scheduled meeting Monday in Manhattan between Trump and what a press release described as “a coalition of 100 African American Evangelical pastors and religious leaders who will endorse the GOP frontrunner after a private meeting at Trump Tower.”
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
Frank Gifford died this past week and his family had CTE tests done on his brain and results were positive ~ see the NFL hit that gave Frank G. CTE… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EHius5Y88
Well, a Planned Parenthood CEO can certainly be trusted to give a totally unbiased account of things.
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
Hah, a RokDrop GOPer female against healthcare for women liking men controlling female bodies ❗ Who’d a thunk it 🙁 😯 🙄
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
Carly Fiorina Doubles Down On Garbage Lies After Chris Wallace Calls Her Out (Video) http://www.forwardprogressives.com/carly-fiorina-doubles-down-garbage-lies-chris-wallace-calls-her-out-video/
“Ah, yes, the typical go-to move for Republicans when they’re caught in a lie – blame media bias. Funny though, during Wallace’s question even he – a member of Fox News – admitted that what she described during the debate isn’t in the videos to which she was referencing. This isn’t a matter of semantics or “that’s your opinion, so we’ll have to agree to disagree” – what Carly Fiorina described does not exist in the Planned Parenthood videos.”
setnaffa
8 years ago
#14, you’re needing new meds… I sent that story to you… lol
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
2 War Dogs and a cop all killed by fellow GOPer in Planned Parenthood domestic American terror attack(as most terror deaths occur to Americans)…
“Nov 29 (Reuters) – A stay-at-home mother of two young children and a man who had served in Iraq were named on Sunday as the two civilians killed along with a local police officer in last week’s rampage at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado.”
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
@18 Liz,
Is that all you can come up with is the “trust” factor like Mrs. Trustworthy herself Fiorina or your fellow Floridian pastor? http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/after-planned-parenthood-shooting-florida
“Following the domestic terrorist attack on a Planned Parenthood in Colorado, Jacksonville First Baptist Church Pastor McCall “Mac” Brunson accused the organization’s president, Cecile Richards, of hating God and loving death.
Speaking to his congregation “in light what what we’re living through” on Sunday, Brunson read a verse from the Bible warning, “the person who sins will die.”
“I can get onto Planned Parenthood here,” he opined. “Who in the world is better to represent them than that president of Planned Parenthood? You’ve seen her on Ellen DeGeneres, you’ve seen her before Congress. She is so astute, she is so smart, she so sharp, she is attractive, she is so clean cut.”
“But let me tell you something,” Brunson added. “She hates our God because she loves death.”
“Amen!” several church members shouted.
“She loves death,” Brunson repeated. “Those doctors that practice that, they hate our God, they love death.”
Liz
8 years ago
Well, a politician and “mega church” televangelist can certainly be trusted to give a totally unbiased account of things.
setnaffa
8 years ago
Not sure where tbone comes up with Dear being a GOPer. He was never registered as such. And he appears to have moved to Colorado for the legal pot.
And since he went o PP and started shouting people who were outside (not inside) of that building/office, he could just as easily be described as a PP supporter…
Liz
8 years ago
“Not sure where tbone comes up with Dear being a GOPer. He was never registered as such.”
Would it matter? I’m a registered Democrat, and I’m no Democrat. I am, however, very afraid of a Hillary presidency and want to vote in the Primary.
Side note, I thought pot was supposed to mellow people out.
setnaffa
8 years ago
Well, it does mellow some folks… but it also reduces white matter in the brain and that can cause psychosis when enough pathways are blocked or unavailable. As a side note, he was a violent and perverse offender previously.
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
You’re 7 Times More Likely To Be Killed By A GOPer Right-Wing Extremist Than A Muslim Terrorist
If you want to live in fear, let’s put it in perspective. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/11/30/3725562/you-are-more-than-7-times-as-likely-to-be-killed-by-a-right-wing-extemist-than-by-muslim-terrorists/
“Though terrorism perpetrated by Muslims receives a disproportionate amount of attention from politicians and reporters, the reality is that right-wing extremists pose a much greater threat to people in the United States than terrorists connected to ISIS or similar organizations. As UNC Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer explained last June in the New York Times, Islam-inspired terror attacks “accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.” Meanwhile, “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”
Kurzman and Schanzer’s methodology, moreover, may underestimate the degree to which domestic terrorists in the United States are motivated by right-wing views. As they describe the term in their New York Times piece, the term “right-wing extremist” primarily encompasses anti-government extremists such as members of the sovereign citizenmovement, although it also includes racist right-wing groups such as neo-Nazis. Thus, it is not yet clear whether Dear, who made anti-abortion remarks but also reportedly referenced President Obama, was motivated in part by the kind of anti-government views that are the focus of Kurzman and Schanzer’s inquiry.
Kurzman and Schanzer also surveyed hundreds of law enforcement agencies regarding their assessment of various threats. Of the 382 agencies they spoke with, “74 percent reported anti-government extremism as one of the top three terrorist threats in their jurisdiction,” while only “39 percent listed extremism connected with Al Qaeda or like-minded terrorist organizations.”
@26 Liz, Why deviate from your claim and facts(Fiorina Lies and Ted Cruz touting support from the likes of himself bombers of abortion clinics and more to come) about Planned Parenthood ❓
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
Liz hero types other than Robert Dear are James Kopp & Eric Rudolph & Troy Newman(endorsed Ted Cruz) etc…
How many black people kill and destroy property like the LONG LIST of white men terrorizing fellow Americans in America at abortion clinics or at health workers homes etc…?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/30/us/anti-abortion-violence/
(CNN)Between 1973, when the Supreme Court decided abortion should be legal throughout the United States, and 2003, abortion providers have been the targets of more than 300 acts of extreme violence, including arson, bombings, murders and butyric acid attacks.
For years, anti-abortion extremists have been targeting Planned Parenthood, which provides reproductive health care, sex education to women and men and, at some clinics, abortions.
From protests to killings
For years, abortion providers have been targeted on a spectrum of aggressiveness. The National Abortion Federation reports more than 176,000 instances of picketing at clinics (and nearly 34,000 arrests) since 1977. It has documented more than 16,000 reported cases of hate mail or harassing phone calls, over 1,500 acts of vandalism and 400 death threats.
There have been more than 200 bombings and arson attacks at facilities that offer abortion services, the organization reports.
According to the federation, the first reported clinic arson occurred in 1976, three years after the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision. A series of clinic bombings followed in 1978 and 1984.
But violence ticked up dramatically in the 1990s. Anti-abortion extremists — particularly those aligned with the extremist group Army of God — began to make their position clear that killing abortion providers was the only way to stop the procedure from being performed.
• Dr. David Gunn was shot and killed in Pensacola, Florida, by a gunman who was against abortion in March 1993.
• Dr. John Bayard Britton and his volunteer security escort, James H. Barrett, were shot and killed in front of a Pensacola clinic in July 1994.
• Clinic employees Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols were shot and killed in Brookline, Massachusetts, in December 1994.
• Off-duty police Officer Robert Sanderson was killed in the bombing of a clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, in January 1998.
• A sniper killed Dr. Barnett Slepian in Amherst, New York, in October 1998. The 51-year-old physician had been the target of anti-abortion protesters since the 1980s.
• An anti-abortion gunman killed 67-year-old George Tiller in a Wichita, Kansas, church in 2009. Tiller was one of the few U.S. physicians who performed late-term abortions.
Security and fear
Anti-abortion violence also has caused considerable property damage, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research paper. The violence has amped up the need for more security, and it has made abortion facility workers more stressed and afraid, the paper said. Workers have resigned over concerns about being targeted or the fear of being victimized, it noted.
Acid attacks and anthrax threats
In the late 1990s, anti-abortion extremists used butyric acid in a series of attacks on clinics that did thousands of dollars in property damage…”
Ted Cruz was the first Republican candidate to address the Planned Parenthood shooting, tweeting that he was “[p]raying for the loved ones of those killed, those injured and first responders who bravely got the situation under control in Colorado Springs.”
In a campaign event on Sunday, he called the murders “horrific and wrong.”
But just days before the shooting, Cruz touted the endorsement from an activist who has called for the “execution” of abortion providers. In his 2003 book, Troy Newman said the entire country was “blood-guilty” for their failure to kill “abortionists.”
(Read book excerpt)
Newman, currently the president of the far-right anti-abortion group Operation Rescue, argues that his book was just a “theological study” and that his writing does not constitute “advocating violence.”
…But in a September 2003 press release, Newman criticized the conviction of Paul Hill for murdering a Florida abortion doctor.”
“Eco-terrorism is on the decline, but even when it was at its height, no one blamed Al Gore for ELF attacks or told environmentalists to shut up lest they further inflame their tiny fringe. The way to combat environmentalist excess is to debate it on the merits and defeat it in the ballot box…
America doesn’t have a problem with Christian terrorism or with eco-terrorism. True homegrown extremists are but the smallest blip on our criminal-justice system’s radar. Thankfully, our few domestic terrorists are isolated, shunned by every reasonable activist, organization, politician, and citizen.
To claim otherwise is to lie. To claim otherwise is to tempt Americans to take their eyes off the real threat to our security — a rapidly growing mass movement that is wholly and completely dedicated to violence. Our real worry shouldn’t be an alienated teenager with a Confederate flag or an angry hermit who hates the government. It should be the fully mobilized jihadist armies controlling nation-sized chunks of territory, the entire governments dedicated to the spread of jihad and seeking nuclear weapons, and their tens of millions of supporters and sympathizers. These are the evil fanatics who have killed and maimed thousands of Americans, and aim to kill thousands more. They continue to show us what a true terror threat looks like, but too many of us still refuse to look.”
Convicted of Homocide and not Murder, Marine LCpl Pemberton has been convicted for the killing of Jennifer Laude.
I remember when I was in the Navy, and they would warn us about the possibility of getting a he/she instead of a she. Option A: Tip your hat, and wish her the finest of days as you gather your stuff and walk out. Option B: Have her blow you, then bang her in the butt like you wanted to when you picked her up. Wrap that rascal first through.
But whatever you do, don’t try to beat her up! If you do, she will either kick your a$$, or call the cops on you, and probably both. It will cost you much more than to have just walked away.
setnaffa
8 years ago
Eight people were killed, including a 16-year-old boy, and at least 20 others were wounded in shootings over the Thanksgiving weekend in Chicago, an increase over last year as the number of gunshot victims rose above 2,700 for the year. – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/#sthash.Kley022H.dpuf
ChickenHead
8 years ago
“The court also ordered Pemberton, who has been detained at a Philippine military camp for about a year, to pay Laude’s family 4.6 million pesos ($98,000) in damages.”
Hmmm. My calculations only came up with around $36,000 max… and even that assumed three full-price cluck&sucks per day for the rest of her reasonable professional shelf life.
…though the awarded amount might have considered her dummy German “boyfriend” who was sending half his paycheck to her each month.
tbonetylr
8 years ago
TRUTH: Robert Dear is the new GOP HERO even though he’s a long time hater of EGAL women’s healthcare/Planned LEGAL Parenthood DUH ❗ Like any wise person had to think much about it 😆 GOPers are so STUPID 🙄 Regardless, RokDrop has the female serviceherselfmember(Liz) hating on women and loving Robert Dear and his ilk ❗
tbonetylr
8 years ago
Liz is for men controlling women’s reproductive LEGAL rights which then has a direct effect on women’s economic status. You go Non-Girl ❗ Liz…for self-induces abortions 😳 🙄 🙁 😯
ChickenHead
8 years ago
“TRUTH: Robert Dear is the new GOP HERO”
The general came into the office the other day and handed out Robert Dear pictures to put next to our David Duke 2016 posters.
Robert Dear and his Guns of Baby-saving Justice make him not just a GOP hero but a hero to all!
…especially minorities…
…who “control their own bodies” at much higher rates than the general population…
…well… at least they control their bodies after pregnancy…
…not so much before.
This statistical difference is even higher if the Palins are excluded.
Liz
8 years ago
-Guy with a history of mental issues shoots up a clinic. When questioned about his motivations, he says, “I moved to Colorado for the weed, dude…”
Liberal left chant: “The right is violent and out of control!”
-Islamic militants commit over 27,000 Islamic Jihadi terror attacks on innocents around the world since 911 with thousands killed or maimed.
When questioned about their motivations, they respond in unison, “We want to reestablish the Caliphate!”
Liberal left chant: “Oh, if only we could understand these people. I wish they would tell us what they want! It must be democracy and jobs.”
Liz
8 years ago
“Liz…for self-induces abortions”
So, T-bone…do you asphyxiate yourself daily or is this just residual damage?
setnaffa
8 years ago
On the radio this morning, Michael Graham asked me about recent polls finding that 40 per cent of millennials think “hate speech” should be criminalized and nearly a third of Democrats feel the same way about dissent from “climate change” orthodoxy. And that’s why John Kerry stands up in Paris and blurts out that killing cartoonists for drawing something you disapprove of has a “legitimacy” or “rationale”. If you don’t believe in free speech for climate deniers or homophobes, why would you believe in it for Charlie Hebdo? Sure, you might be a little squeamish about gunning them all down in cold blood – but all you’re doing is quibbling over the penalty: fines for trans apostates, prison for climate apostates, death for Islamic apostates. They’re merely different points on the same continuum.
— Mark Steyn
setnaffa
8 years ago
Interview between Uproxx’s Danger Guerrero and Keith Phipps (who actually saw a screening of The Revenant in a theater):
DG: Right, but there’s no way you could have, like, gotten up to get popcorn and gotten stuck in a long line and missed Leonardo DiCaprio getting sexually assaulted by a male bear on two non-consecutive occasions?
KP: I can state definitively that I was present in the theater and fully awake throughout The Revenant and that it contains no scenes of a bear raping Leonardo DiCaprio, or anyone else.
DG: And you’re very sure about this? The no-bear-raping thing?
KP: I believe that part of what makes movies such a wonderful art form is the act of interpretation. There’s no “right” or “wrong” reading of a film. Having said that, anyone who tells you a bear rapes Leonardo DiCaprio in The Revenant is wrong.
DG: Right, but are you like very, very sure?
KP: I am.
setnaffa
8 years ago
Ace writes:
“I saw this headline earlier and I thought it was a nothing thing, because I thought he meant — I don’t know what I thought he meant, but I thought I must have read it wrong, because this social-promotion imbecile couldn’t possibly have declared that mass shootings don’t happen in Paris while standing in Paris in the aftermath of a mass shooting.
Protester at Kean U. Fabricated Threats Against Black Students, Police Say. “Online threats to “kill every black male and female” at Kean University were fabricated by a former student and activist, a New Jersey county prosecutor, Grace H. Park, announced on Tuesday. The Star-Ledger reports that Kayla-Simone McKelvey, who is black, was charged with a third-degree count of creating a false public alarm.”
So we have black students in Chicago posting fake threats against white students, and black students at Kean posting fake threats against black students. All because of white privilege, or something.
by Glenn Reynolds
setnaffa
8 years ago
Charles Lindbergh advocated for the US to stay out of WW2 because Nazi Germany was unbeatable. Obama preaches some weird philosophy about no country having violent citizens except the US–in Paris while the bodies of the slain are still being buried…
We should not go into any war unless we’re willing to go all-in; but likewise, we should not assume any group of humans is superior to us. We should not attack those who are willing to be our friends or leave us alone; but we should never pay the Danegeld.
We’re all the same, except for leadership, motivation, skills, and equipment. And these are not all of equal weight.
Read about Isandhlwana and Rorke’s Drift, El Obeid and Omdurman, Goliad and San Jacinto, First Bull Run and Gettysburg, Kasserine Pass and El Guettar, Task Force Smith and Incheon.
Compare and contrast the victories and defeats. There are common threads.
Liz
8 years ago
“Of course Obama thinks the economy is doing fine. Everyone he meets can afford $38,000 a plate for dinner.”
Both George Orwell (“Animal Farm”, 1945) and CS Lewis (“The Abolition of Man”, 1944) predicted the situation we have today. Many ignored their concise and coherent warnings; but the Left used their works as blueprints.
@50: The only thing surprising about what you posted is that people are surprised by it. The system is setup to encourage the abuse that is happening. The corporate farms will say that the foreign workers provide the consumer cheaper products, but that doesn’t take into account all the tax money spent on people going on unemployment, welfare, etc. because they can’t get a job. I would rather pay more for my products than have millions of Americans on government programs because they can’t find a job.
Hmm… This makes me curious. If Ko Yong-Suk sues, wouldn’t the defendants attornies be able to request disclosure? I wonder what files they might be able to look through to defend their clients.
Slush funds, fraud, and illegal transactions might be revealed if she is forced to open her books.
setnaffa
8 years ago
@57, me too…
tbonetylr
8 years ago
We’re so lucky in that we have the second amendment allowing Americans to have mass shootings every day of the year so be sure to tell your Korean friends how much you love your guns so the world can laugh at dumb GOP Americans/NRA allowing everyday mass shootings ❗ ❗ ❗
334 Days, 351 Mass Shootings
There have been more mass shooting this year in America than there have been days so far this year 😳 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/30/there-have-been-334-days-and-351-mass-shootings-so-far-this-year/
“It is just the latest in a year of more-than-daily mass shootings in America. In fact, there had already been one mass shooting on Friday — in the early morning hours, two people were killed and two injured in a shooting at a restaurant in Sacramento. Another mass shooting incident in Boston in the early hours of Thanksgiving Day took the life of a Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority rail conductor.
There have been at least 351 mass shootings so far this year, according tonews reports collected by a reddit community that tracks these incidents. The reddit tracker defines mass shootings as incidents in which four or more people, including the gunman, are killed or injured by gunfire. The Mass Shooting Tracker is different from other shooting databases in that it uses a broader definition of mass shooting — the old FBI definition focused on four or more people killed as part of a single shooting.
There were at least 12 mass shootings in the U.S. last week so far, counting the Colorado Springs shooting. That shooting would also be the second mass shooting in Colorado Springs this month.”
tbonetylr
8 years ago
@53,
DUUUH, like the GOP hasn’t ever had plates costing that much ❓ Why don’t you show us something negative the Dems do that the GOP doesn’t do ❓ I’ve been showing anyone/everyone how crazy the GOP and/or their statements(full of lies or not) and its supporters such as you have been saying/doing for years and yet NOBODY has come anywhere close to me contrarily 😎 Why is this ❓ Because you or anyone else CAN’T ❗ ❗ ❗ NOBODY has ever tried because they couldn’t possibly show anyone that the Dems as a whole say/do such stupid etc…things as GOPers. 👿
Your issue is hypocritical because the GOP does the same and if(that’s a VERY big “IF”), they ever win a presidential election anytime soon whoever the GOP(is near an end so I’ll NEVER be wrong) president is will have MORE costly dinner plates just as Paul Ryan did way back in 2012. How stupid can GOPers be paying so much to hear a hopeful vice president speak 😆
1. Philly Union League’s Ritzy Paul Ryan Dinner
How much: $50,000 per plate
Earnings: about $600,000 to $1 million http://financesonline.com/6-most-profitable-fundraising-dinners-and-events/
“In August 21, 2012, then vice presidential candidate (and Wisconsin congressman) Paul Ryan also went his rounds of high-priced receptions and donor engagements to boost his political bid in the 2012 US Elections. His most expensive fundraising dinner was the $50,000 per plate meal at the Union League in Philadelphia.”
setnaffa
8 years ago
We should all try to resist the urge to react to the provocations of those who fight with their tiny brains tied behind their back.
We should show we are more than wormfood and look around to find ways to help out the less fortunate while we’re this side of the dirt. There are a lot of them.
While some around us see happiness and try to take a dump on it, the more enlightened person strives to use his limited time to lift others out of slavery.
There are many opportunities to lift up those less fortunate than we. Homeless shelters, assisted living and nursing facilities, food banks, and more are all around us. And they need our time as well as our funds.
Whether you choose to celebrate our Savior’s birth later this month is between you and Him. But my wish for all of you is the following:
“The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the Lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace.”
And may you find where you can do something of eternal value.
tbonetylr
8 years ago
White Gunmen Mistake by attacking the wrong facility which makes sense since nobody could explain how/why they left so quickly. But, if you think about it they were there killing disabled people when they realized…DUUUH, I thought this was Planned Parenthood 🙄
The Planned Parenthood Clinic Across Street From San Bernardino Shooting right by where 20 people were shot today in San Bernardino, California,
Those white gunmen are so dumb aye ❓
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
GOP Mayor of San Bernardino blew it ❗ Hey johnnyboy, since you don’t question GOP led cities, please tell us how in the world this numbnut could allow such a GOP Type Killing on HIS Watch ❓
Denny
8 years ago
Syed Farook named as a suspect in San Bernadino attack that killed 14
I never questioned Rahm Emanuel’s actions before Laquan McDonald was killed. My suspicions are on what he did afterwards.
Black Lives Matter seems to agree with me on this.
P.S. I somehow don’t think Farooq Syed was attempting to shoot up Planned Parenthood. Perhaps you were a bit premature in your assumptions.
yougottabekiddon
8 years ago
#63 If by “across the street” from Planned Parenthood you mean any location west of the shooting location, I suppose you could be correct. Using this reasoning, Disneyland is also across the street from the shooting location. However, the Planned Parenthood in San Bernardino is about one kilometer directly to the southwest of the shooting location (about one mile away by SUV).
Setnaffa
8 years ago
@63, one of the murderers was at the banquet and asked to leave. He came back armed and killed people. He wasn’t “white” and apparently didn’t ask the GOP Mayor for permission.
I realize that you don’t often apologize for racist misstatements; but are you interested in this case? Apparently it was not a white Christian GOPer intending to attack a PP office… it was three Muslims attacking a Christmas/Holiday banquet…
tbonetylr
8 years ago
@68,
I was just going with the substantial odds with white man domestic terrorism which is HUUUGE in America compared to anyone else.
You’re 7 Times More Likely To Be Killed By A GOPer Right-Wing Extremist Than A Muslim Terrorist
If you want to live in fear, let’s put it in perspective. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/11/30/3725562/you-are-more-than-7-times-as-likely-to-be-killed-by-a-right-wing-extemist-than-by-muslim-terrorists/
“Though terrorism perpetrated by Muslims receives a disproportionate amount of attention from politicians and reporters, the reality is that right-wing extremists pose a much greater threat to people in the United States than terrorists connected to ISIS or similar organizations. As UNC Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer explained last June in the New York Times, Islam-inspired terror attacks “accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.” Meanwhile, “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”
Kurzman and Schanzer’s methodology, moreover, may underestimate the degree to which domestic terrorists in the United States are motivated by right-wing views. As they describe the term in their New York Times piece, the term “right-wing extremist” primarily encompasses anti-government extremists such as members of the sovereign citizenmovement, although it also includes racist right-wing groups such as neo-Nazis. Thus, it is not yet clear whether Dear, who made anti-abortion remarks but also reportedly referenced President Obama, was motivated in part by the kind of anti-government views that are the focus of Kurzman and Schanzer’s inquiry.
Kurzman and Schanzer also surveyed hundreds of law enforcement agencies regarding their assessment of various threats. Of the 382 agencies they spoke with, “74 percent reported anti-government extremism as one of the top three terrorist threats in their jurisdiction,” while only “39 percent listed extremism connected with Al Qaeda or like-minded terrorist organizations.”
johnnyboy
8 years ago
It isn’t clear what their motives were, but as more pieces of the puzzle are coming together it is starting to look like Islamic terrorism. I have heard reports that people in their home were working in the garage late into the night and receiving multiple deliveries supposedly with 3 or 4 Middle Eastern men visiting at all hours.
I get that the odds of being killed by Muslim terrorism are low in our country right now. I have a feeling that could change in the near future. Globally, the string of coordinated mass attacks has been pretty consistent over the past month. It may have finally hit our shores.
Gen. Curtis “Mike” Scaparrotti, USFK Commanding General, 69th Commandant of Cadets, Facebook Romantic? Well, the first two, but probably not the third:
Lots of scammers out there. The usual applies: If it sounds too good to be true, it’s probably a scam.
setnaffa
8 years ago
@69, why leave out 9/11? I think you’ll find, if you do better research, the “right-wing extremists” they list were registered Democrats–and voted that way. The so-called “right-wing” KKK was all Democrats. All of the recent shootings have been done by Democrats or their mentally-ill offspring. You need to get some fresh air.
BTW, I am not saying all or most Democrats are homicidal lunatics. Not all/most Muslims, either. So knock off the sophomoric strawman BS. Unless you stop using stereotypes from 1930s commie agitprop, you’re not going to garner anything but contempt.
BUT! Maybe the San Bernadino killings could have been prevented if only the right signs were posted on the outside of the building:
Liz
8 years ago
“@69, why leave out 9/11?”
Because the argument would fall flat.
The argument would also fall flat if world statistics, or even western statistics, were included.
The argument would also fall flat if thwarted attacks were included (those don’t make the news anymore, and there are a good number of them)
“Lots of scammers out there. The usual applies: If it sounds too good to be true, it’s probably a scam.”
That link was pretty funny! 🙂
If this was all about a disgruntled worker who just happened to be a radical Muslim getting back at his employer than why involve the wife and have an IED bomb making factory in your condo? It is pretty clear they had a plan for larger carnage.
ChickenHead
8 years ago
You’re 7 Times More Likely To Be Killed By A “GOPer Right-Wing Extremist Than A Muslim Terrorist”
You are also more likely to be killed by a falling rock than a falling Gutenberg Bible.
The fact that the rare number of Muslim terrorists cause a full one seventh the deaths of plentiful “GOPer Right-Wing Extremist” indicates they are hughly dangerous.
“Don’t be crazy. It wasn’t Climate. It was a YouTube video.”
tbonetylr
8 years ago
@72 & 73 “why leave out 9/11?”
Because the “War on Terror” hadn’t begun yet until numbnuts Bush declared such a stupid thing/war that CANNOT EVER BE WON 🙄 Oh, and to follow that up numbnuts Bush invaded a country(Iraq) where USA WARHAWKS & WARDOGS/Servicethemselfmembers terrorized citizens of Iraq in another stupid USA so-called “war.” 😈
Wikipedia:
“U.S. President George W. Bush first used the term “War on Terror” on 20 September 2001.[44] The Bush administration and the western media have since used the term to argue a global military, political, legal, and conceptual struggle against both organizations designated terrorist and regimes accused of supporting them.”
tbonetylr
8 years ago
@74, “The media now has new term to explain this latest shooting “workplace Jihad”
If only your boy Bush hadn’t started the “new term – War on Terror” 💡 “workplace jihad” wouldn’t have been made up by the media. ❗
tbonetylr
8 years ago
GOP Leader Trump Attacks Jewish people
Donald Trump Tells Republican Jews That He Is a Negotiator, Just Like ‘You Folks’ http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/12/donald-trump-gives-non-kosher-speech-to-gop-jews.html#
“I’m a negotiator, like you folks,” the candidate told the assembled Jewry. As the speech unfolded, it became clear that the line was not spontaneous and that Trump had decided his passion for saving money would be a real winner with this audience.
After touting his plans to renegotiate the Iran agreement, Trump asked, “Is there anybody in this room who doesn’t renegotiate deals?” After a moment of reflection, Trump concluded that there were probably more renegotiators here than in “any room I’ve ever spoken.”
The Jews will never support Trump, because they like to buy their politicians
The candidate went on to clarify that, while he admires much of the way Jews handle their money, he isn’t crazy about how they try to buy up our political system.
“I don’t want money, so, therefore, you’re not going to support me because, stupidly, you want to give money,” Trump said. “You want to control your own politician.”
Trump repeated this point about how he wouldn’t take the money that his audience was desperate to give him several times in his short speech.
To review, Trump assumed a room of Jews were negotiators, like him. And then said they won’t support him because he doesn’t want their money.”
Army Staff Sergeant Kim Jung-won jumped up and down to the cheers of a small crowd at a veterans’ hospital in Seoul, Wednesday. If anybody detected a bit of a limp, it’s because the 23-year-old stood on an artificial limb, having lost the lower part of his right leg in the explosion of a North Korean landmine on the south side of the Demilitarized Zone on Aug. 4……………………………
President Park Geun-hye, Defense Minister Han Min-koo and U.S. Forces Korea (USFK) Commander Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, among other public officials, praised the two soldiers’ acts of heroism. As a result, the government has decided to cover all Kim’s medical and rehab expenses, addressing an absurd regulation that only covers one month of treatment for soldiers injured in the line of duty.
This surprised me. I hope SK changes their regulation to cover all their servicemen injured in the LOD,
tbonetylr
8 years ago
GOP For Terrorists Buying Lots of Guns in Good Ole USA
Senate Republicans Vote To Allow Terrorists To Legally Buy Guns In The US http://www.politicususa.com/2015/12/03/senate-republicans-vote-terrorists-legally-buy-guns.html
“Senate Republicans voted today to block a measure that would have prevented individuals on the terror watch list from legally buying guns in the United States.”
I thought there was a “War on Terror” ❓ 😳 🙁 🙄 😈
Thems GOPers sure do know how to win the “War on Terror” aye 😆
tbonetylr
8 years ago
Limbaugh Blames Left For San Bernardino Shooting
Of course, this had to happen.
GOP Lovers Please Explain Your Lovers Statement as it Makes NO Sense to ME ❓
Limbaugh on San Bernardino: The Left ‘Is As Guilty as Those Pulling the Trigger Here’ http://www.mediaite.com/online/limbaugh-on-san-bernardino-the-left-is-as-guilty-as-those-pulling-the-trigger-here/
“It is never more obvious to me than it is today,” he said, “that the left knows it is responsible for this. The left knows that it is as guilty as those pulling the trigger here, and they’re doing everything they can to transfer that guilt and cover it up.”
HUH ❓
tbonetylr
8 years ago
ROKDROP FAVORITE George Zimmerman Suspended From Twitter After Posting Nudes Of Ex
Let’s get real here, ROKDROP is a GOPer LOVER website as I don’t recall anyone ever saying anything bad about George Zimmerman 😆
George Zimmerman’s frequently controversial Twitter behavior appears to have actually caused his account to get suspended, following his posts of apparent nudes of an alleged ex-girlfriend. Zimmerman accuses this alleged ex-partner of cheating on him with, according to his own tweet, “a dirty Muslim.” Another tweet also included a phone number “with a Kentucky area code,” according to the Daily Dot, who placed a call to the number and confirmed it appeared to belong to the woman named in one of the tweets.
In addition to clearly violating Twitter’s abusive behavior policy, which strictly bans the sharing of “intimate photos” without the subject’s consent, some argue that the posts may have broken the law:
Click on MY link for MORE ❗
ROKDROP LOVES GEORGE and I’m sure as usual nobody here(especially EGGHEAD since George has broken the law in the name of women) will find anything wrong with ROKDROP’s GEORGE 😥
Liz
8 years ago
“Sensible gun laws work, we’ve proven it in California.”
— Sen. Barbara Boxer, the day AFTER the San Bernardino massacre
ChickenHead
8 years ago
The problems caused by liberal policies of chronic dependence, no ownership or investment in life, rewards for no personal responsibility, and acceptance of all cultures as valid and equal will not be solved by more gun control.
…but gun control is an easy thing to yell about whenever there are indication that fundamental ideology has failed.
Ulster County Sheriff Paul J. Van Blarcum encouraged residents of his New York jurisdiction Thursday to carry their firearms if licensed.
“In light of recent events that have occurred in the United States and around the world, I want to encourage citizens of Ulster County who are licensed to carry a firearm to PLEASE DO SO,” Sheriff Van Blarcum wrote in a Facebook post.
setnaffa
8 years ago
A day before the San Bernardino attack, Detroit Police Chief James Craig said legally armed citizens can discourage terrorists. He told the local CBS-TV affiliate, “If you’re a terrorist, or a carjacker, you want an unarmed citizenry.”
setnaffa
8 years ago
“I think after Paris, and as we learn more about this event [in San Bernardino] we need to be nimble enough and pragmatic enough to recognize that there’s definitely a small number of documented mass-casualty shootings that have been ended by off-duty law enforcement and civilians,” said Eugene O’Donnell, a professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.
A former police officer, Mr. O’Donnell said about half of mass shootings are finished before the first officer arrives, given that “these are people that are coming in to kill.”
“They’re coming in to kill as many people as they can, as quickly as they can, so the old model — the police would get there, they would cordon the place off, you could talk people through — a large number of these events are going to be over before the cops get there,” Mr. O’Donnell said.
setnaffa
8 years ago
“ROKDROP LOVES GEORGE” My, but you do love to shout… Kinda like Tourette syndrome…
Zimmerman was a Democrat activist. Why would anyone here, other than you, have any connection to him?
Denny
8 years ago
Revealed: Brother of San Bernardino gunman is a decorated Navy veteran honored for his role in the war on terror
@92, we can’t be blamed for our siblings behavior–and vice-versa.
ChickenHead
8 years ago
“Brother of San Bernardino gunman is a decorated Navy veteran honored for his role in the war on terror”
Was he “honored” for his “roll” or did he just get a participation award for showing up?
setnaffa
8 years ago
CH, LOL, some of those were for showing up at the time he served. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as long as he wasn’t involved in their crimes.
The Islamics are unafraid. The white nutjobs are angry. The minorities are riled up. The blacks feel energized and empowered.
…and the reality is that, while crazy white conservative right-wing Christian Republicans (or anyone who can be misrepresented as one) make big news, many of these “mass shootings” are done by some brother in the hood shooting into a group of other brothers in the hood over some wannabe gangsta-inspired conflict. It just doesn’t make the news…
…and, of course some (documemted) crazy white hits some random public place and it is shocking… while some black gangsta is just taking care of business in his own hood… so that is nobody else’s problem.
…but they are included when mass shooting statistics are trotted out to prove some points but the source is hidden when they prove others.
Obama has inflamed racial, social, and class tensions while energizing and empowering the angry and crazy on all sides.
setnaffa
8 years ago
Meanwhile, we are having our “Holiday Party” anyway.
@98,
You’re just like a GOP presidential candidate in that you LIE, care nothing about TRUE FACTS, and that LIES are FACTS. How about a link to support EACH of your untrue claims 🙄
If/When you attempt to do so you’ll need to shut your mouth/opinion and summarize how EACH of your links support your original claim you EGGHEAD LIAR ❗ ❗ ❗
I’ll help you, all you have to do is provide us 4 links for each of your claims below…
1)The Islamics are unafraid.
2)The white nutjobs are angry.
3)The minorities are riled up.
4)The blacks feel energized and empowered.
5)Obama has inflamed racial tensions.
6)Obama has inflamed social tentions.
7)Obama has inflamed class tensions.
8)Obama has energized and empowered the angry on all sides.
9)Obama has energized and empowered the crazy on all sides.
EGGHEAD tried to say illiterately “…but they are included when mass shooting statistics are trotted out to prove some points but the source is hidden when they prove others.”
Forget about your sic/poor English sentence, I’d just like to know WTF “they” are? And do your “theys” refer to two different groups in the same sentence? This is the 2nd time(or countless time) you recently just blab, blab, blab, like Charlie Brown’s teacher or Jeb Bush when I asked you before to tell us who “they” are but of course you CANNOT because if you do you’ll incriminate your EGGHEADED SELF 🙄
tbonetylr
8 years ago
EGGHEAD asks “Was he “honored” for his “roll” or did he just get a participation award for showing up?”
Don’t you know you EGGHEAD ❓ 🙄 If you had a normal head you’d be able to think about it and figure it out but you don’t have a normal head so you can’t because you’re an EGGHEAD ❗
tbonetylr
8 years ago
@94,
“we can’t be blamed for our siblings behavior–and vice-versa.”
Who is “we” or do you obviously have an alternate meaning of who “we” are EGGHEAD #2 🙄
@74 GI Korea,
GI Korea is the new ROK DROP PRETENDER, I call BS on your claim that “CNN(per your link)” said…[a new term to explain this latest shooting was “workplace Jihad”] 🙄 Please, tell us who at CNN said such a thing ❓ http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html
tbonetylr
8 years ago
@74 GI Korea,
What CNN did mention in the article you linked to was “fiancée visa” and so we have it, USA servicethemselfmembers are the reason/originators for the existence of the “fiancée visa” 🙄
But I digress, GI Korea’s “workplace Jihad” is thus far simply workplace violence(didn’t white man start this in the USA i.e. post offices etc…?) since no evidence has come forth that San Bernardino, CA was linked to any terror network ❗
Therefore, until there is evidence, the WHITE MAN is the ONLY cause of 350+ mass shootings in the USA so far in 2015 😳
ChickenHead
8 years ago
“Attorney General Loretta Lynch pledged to a Muslim advocacy and lobbying group that she would take aggressive action against anyone who used “anti-Muslim rhetoric” that “edges toward violence.””
…yet nothing is mentioned about radical mosques preaching violence against the infidels.
And we thought Bush had the monopoly on Upsidedown World.
tbonetylr
8 years ago
MIT Professor Noam Chomsky says Republicans are no longer a normal political party but a ‘Radical Insurgency’ 😐
We need more people like Noam to educate the youth of today on the TRUTH about GOPers ❗
“…yet nothing is mentioned about radical mosques preaching violence against the infidels.”
Why don’t you send her the list you EGGHEAD and while you’re at it include the link here or is this just another one of your claims 🙄 EGGHEAD, she doesn’t have jurisdiction abroad 😯
@104- If you would stop sniffing glue and actually read what I wrote I never mentioned CNN, I said media. If you click the second link I provided you would read that ABC News’ Brian Ross called it “workplace Jihad”. Last I checked ABC News is part of the media.
ChickenHead
8 years ago
GI Korea, Tbone does not need to be responded to. If he mentions something you want to rant about, you can do so in the guise of a response…
…but his “accusations” are not grounded in reality, his points are not related, and his demands are not designed to get meaningful responses that move the conversation forward.
In other words, he has no intention of engaging in serious debate with an avtual resolution. He is just trying anything to get a response…
…as getting people to respond to his obvious idiocy is the most personal power he ever had or ever will have… until the AI content filters get good enough to separate the sheep from the goats and a great deal of idiocy is filtered from the internet.
I urge everyone to ignore him. He will be gone in a week.
tbonetylr
8 years ago
“If you would stop sniffing glue”
Stop trying to weasel your way out of your CNN link. I suggested you were a pretender at the least any so you respond like EGGHEAD as a LIAR with your “sniffing glue” LIE 🙄 😆 😈
tbonetylr
8 years ago
“I never mentioned CNN, I said media.”
Yeah, and CNN is “the media” which you linked to FIRST 🙄 Why did you link to CNN after your said “the media says…”workplace Jihad.” Sorry, I can’t overturn your BS ❗
setnaffa
8 years ago
Have a wonderful week!!
setnaffa
8 years ago
From the NYT!!!!!
And remember, when people are talking about gun control, they’re not talking about Obama’s many failures, ranging from the failures of vetting and counter-terrorism that may have led to the San Bernardino attacks themselves, to Obama’s foreign policy debacles in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, to how the #BringBackOurGirls hashtag campaign against Boko Haram accomplished nothing, to how Putin is running wild in Eastern Europe, to Obama’s plans to import more poorly-vetted refugees from Muslim countries that foment terror or the still-anemic economy that has left far too many Americans unemployed or underemployed despite years of “recovery.”
Those are all things that the Obama Administration — and the Hillary Clinton campaign — don’t want to talk about. So the editorial board of the Times has pulled out all the stops to ensure that we talk about gun control instead. Gun control isn’t a great issue for the Democrats, but it’s better than all those other topics of discussion, and the expected angry response from the gun-rights community will ensure that people aren’t talking about topics that make the White House look bad.
ChickenHead
8 years ago
Gun control is the Democrats’ Dokdo.
Liz
8 years ago
Before the assault weapons ban, assault rifles were kind of an obscure collector’s item and few people had them. My husband owned an AR 15 at the time. Now, assault rifles are ubiquitous…just a few days ago we were in Bass proshop and they had them on display there.
The Democrats have been so good for the firearm and ammo business it’s almost as though that is their intention.
After Obama’s recent speeches, the stores will probably be sold out of ammunition, like they were in 2008.
ChickenHead
8 years ago
Interesting when a white guy goes on a shooting spree, the blame falls on whites, Christians, conservatives, Republicans, and guns.
When a Muslim goes on a shooting spree, the blame is only on the guns.
Side note: I have been spending a lot of time with Muslims recently… and am developing a modified outlook on the entire situation… understanding a number of valid concepts from their point of view. I will write about that in some time when my conclusions are complete. As of now, one thing that has been reinforced is that Islam is really not compatible with functional American values and lifestyles… and, while toleration of non-intrusive beliefs is an American attribute, Islam, like beastiality or the Kardashians, should neither be encouraged nor empowered.
Importing fanatics directly from the source is national madness.
Liz
8 years ago
I had some Muslim neighbors when we lived in Arlington, near DC.
They had children about the same age as ours, so they would play together a lot and I’d often talk to the mothers. I learned a lot about their traditions and holidays, and the kids were pretty well behaved (not like Mormons, more like American kids).
One day I was watching a son and daughter of one of the families and the subject of dogs came up, somehow. According to daughter there was a mean man who owned a dog and would use it to “attack children”. Apparently the man was also Muslim. She relayed that one day the man tried to use the dog to attack them. I don’t know the veracity of the claim, but what she said next made me raise an eyebrow.
“Now, he is going to burn in hellfire for attacking Muslim children!”
Attacks on other children were fine I guess?
This is a person who was born in the USA.
setnaffa
8 years ago
Liz, according to the Koran, only Muslims count as people. Killing non-Muslims is no more serious than killing fleas. Unless you’re on the Haj.
Yeah, I kind of got that impression when she stated that. But I honestly had no idea before…and I thought I knew these people pretty well…but a young daughter says what she is taught, and doesn’t know to have the same social filter as an adult in mixed company might.
New news, the DOD has just announced some sort of martial program where they will allow servicemembers to be armed in units. In fact, they are insisting on it. They want the servicepeople to wear the arms on holsters, openly, not concealed, however.
I don’t think this has made the news yet, it should shortly.
ChickenHead
8 years ago
So the Man gets protection while everyone plots to take it away from the little people…
…well… except for the criminals.
They haven’t really come up with a way to take their guns.
Liz
8 years ago
I think it’s a good thing they will be able to carry on base.
You EGGHEADEDLY forgot about the MOST VAST political group in America 🙄 How many Independents in S. Korea on Dokdo? That would require an English link you EGGHEAD ❗ Not just your typical EGGHEADED opinions EGGHEAD ❗
…as that is an easier statement to make than Republicans keep people poor and Democrats keep them chronically dependent… or blacks engage in a disproportionate amount of violent crime… or Muslims can be dangerous… or revolving door justice for violent crime with throw away the key justice for low-level drug crime is poor policy… etc.
Another guy with what appears to be mental health issues commits a mass shooting:
http://news.yahoo.com/gunman-custody-attack-planned-parenthood-clinic-074633655.html
In a war, leaders who fail to meet objectives are regularly replaced. And tactics are reviewed for effectiveness, too.
In the so-called wars on Poverty, Drugs, and Terror, there should be fewer people on government assistance, fewer drug addicts, and fewer terrorists. The opposite is true.
We need better leaders AND better tactics. We need people with a vision of victory and a love of America like the Founding Fathers…
+1 for Setnaffa.
Of course empowerment comes through perpetual conflict rather than resolution.
None of the “solutions” are supposed to work. In fact, they are supposed to make the problem bigger while still giving the appearance that everything possible is being done.
Blame for failure falls on those who just want to be left alone.
Dens react to Planned Parenthood Shooting, GOPers silent. I wonder why?
http://www.mediaite.com/online/dem-candidates-react-to-planned-parenthood-shooting-gopers-mostly-silent/
“GOPers silent. I wonder why?”
One imagines it is in utter disbelief that the Democrats use death at an Infanticidium as a source of gleeful politicizing. The bodies of the dead were not even cold before members of that group were calling for innocent people to be stripped of their civil rights because another lunatic with no connection with anyone decided to murder people.
Shame on your mother, tbone.
“No Connection to anyone”
Hmmm, besides FoxNOTnews and Right-Wing pro-birth but Non-Life GOP WingNut “Internets”
“stripped”
🙄 😆
Civil rights to privacy, since when did GOP Hawks care about that? George Bush’s executive order to collect USA citizens phone data collection will at last be shut down on Sunday because of Eric Snowden.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/us/politics/judge-deals-a-blow-to-nsa-phone-surveillance-program.html?referer=&_r=0
You really need to lay off the paraquat, dude…
BTW, Barack Obama has been President since January 2009. And he’s got a phone and a pen.
GOP Mayor Steven Bach leads Colorado Springs where the cop killing GOP news gathering white man attacked/terrorized Planned Parenthood. It was his fault not having more security present to protect health care workers for women. It’s very sad the GOP still wants to block females from receiving health care while trying to control their bodies:shock: 🙁 GOP terrorists must go ❗
Sacramento police… http://www.mintpressnews.com/211605-2/211605/
BTW, no PP employees were injured…
@ # 5 setnaffa,
If Friday’s attack had been anywhere else and involved someone yelling “allahu akbar,” the GOPers would still be in full exploitation mode. They would be screaming from the rafters that it’s Obama’s fault because he’s weak, Syrian refugees must be Christians, ISIS is already in America and only they(GOPers) can save America.
@ setnaffa the religious RokDrop freak, how can this be or why would black religious leaders support Trump or is the GOP media just fibbing… “Conservative media has trumpeted a scheduled meeting Monday in Manhattan between Trump and what a press release described as “a coalition of 100 African American Evangelical pastors and religious leaders who will endorse the GOP frontrunner after a private meeting at Trump Tower.”
Frank Gifford died this past week and his family had CTE tests done on his brain and results were positive ~ see the NFL hit that gave Frank G. CTE…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EHius5Y88
Concussion adds can be seen during NFL game commercials, if networks blocked the adds it would’ve received more publicity…Scroll down to see the trailer for ‘Concussion’ starring Will Smith coming out in December…
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-ca-mn-concussion-will-smith-nfl-production-20151129-story.html
Hateful Language by GOP wannabe president candidates and GOP anti-abortion/pro-birth but Non-Life activists contributed to white man cop killer shooting says Planned Parenthood CEO ❗
http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/261436-planned-parenthood-official-hateful-language-contributed-to
Well, a Planned Parenthood CEO can certainly be trusted to give a totally unbiased account of things.
Hah, a RokDrop GOPer female against healthcare for women liking men controlling female bodies ❗ Who’d a thunk it 🙁 😯 🙄
Carly Fiorina Doubles Down On Garbage Lies After Chris Wallace Calls Her Out (Video)
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/carly-fiorina-doubles-down-garbage-lies-chris-wallace-calls-her-out-video/
“Ah, yes, the typical go-to move for Republicans when they’re caught in a lie – blame media bias. Funny though, during Wallace’s question even he – a member of Fox News – admitted that what she described during the debate isn’t in the videos to which she was referencing. This isn’t a matter of semantics or “that’s your opinion, so we’ll have to agree to disagree” – what Carly Fiorina described does not exist in the Planned Parenthood videos.”
#14, you’re needing new meds… I sent that story to you… lol
2 War Dogs and a cop all killed by fellow GOPer in Planned Parenthood domestic American terror attack(as most terror deaths occur to Americans)…
“Nov 29 (Reuters) – A stay-at-home mother of two young children and a man who had served in Iraq were named on Sunday as the two civilians killed along with a local police officer in last week’s rampage at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado.”
@18 Liz,
Is that all you can come up with is the “trust” factor like Mrs. Trustworthy herself Fiorina or your fellow Floridian pastor?
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/after-planned-parenthood-shooting-florida
“Following the domestic terrorist attack on a Planned Parenthood in Colorado, Jacksonville First Baptist Church Pastor McCall “Mac” Brunson accused the organization’s president, Cecile Richards, of hating God and loving death.
Speaking to his congregation “in light what what we’re living through” on Sunday, Brunson read a verse from the Bible warning, “the person who sins will die.”
“I can get onto Planned Parenthood here,” he opined. “Who in the world is better to represent them than that president of Planned Parenthood? You’ve seen her on Ellen DeGeneres, you’ve seen her before Congress. She is so astute, she is so smart, she so sharp, she is attractive, she is so clean cut.”
“But let me tell you something,” Brunson added. “She hates our God because she loves death.”
“Amen!” several church members shouted.
“She loves death,” Brunson repeated. “Those doctors that practice that, they hate our God, they love death.”
Well, a politician and “mega church” televangelist can certainly be trusted to give a totally unbiased account of things.
Not sure where tbone comes up with Dear being a GOPer. He was never registered as such. And he appears to have moved to Colorado for the legal pot.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/11/interesting_family_background_of_the_colorado_springs_shooter.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook#.Vls-IiAOg-s.facebook
And since he went o PP and started shouting people who were outside (not inside) of that building/office, he could just as easily be described as a PP supporter…
“Not sure where tbone comes up with Dear being a GOPer. He was never registered as such.”
Would it matter? I’m a registered Democrat, and I’m no Democrat. I am, however, very afraid of a Hillary presidency and want to vote in the Primary.
Side note, I thought pot was supposed to mellow people out.
Well, it does mellow some folks… but it also reduces white matter in the brain and that can cause psychosis when enough pathways are blocked or unavailable. As a side note, he was a violent and perverse offender previously.
You’re 7 Times More Likely To Be Killed By A GOPer Right-Wing Extremist Than A Muslim Terrorist
If you want to live in fear, let’s put it in perspective.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/11/30/3725562/you-are-more-than-7-times-as-likely-to-be-killed-by-a-right-wing-extemist-than-by-muslim-terrorists/
“Though terrorism perpetrated by Muslims receives a disproportionate amount of attention from politicians and reporters, the reality is that right-wing extremists pose a much greater threat to people in the United States than terrorists connected to ISIS or similar organizations. As UNC Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer explained last June in the New York Times, Islam-inspired terror attacks “accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.” Meanwhile, “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”
Kurzman and Schanzer’s methodology, moreover, may underestimate the degree to which domestic terrorists in the United States are motivated by right-wing views. As they describe the term in their New York Times piece, the term “right-wing extremist” primarily encompasses anti-government extremists such as members of the sovereign citizenmovement, although it also includes racist right-wing groups such as neo-Nazis. Thus, it is not yet clear whether Dear, who made anti-abortion remarks but also reportedly referenced President Obama, was motivated in part by the kind of anti-government views that are the focus of Kurzman and Schanzer’s inquiry.
Kurzman and Schanzer also surveyed hundreds of law enforcement agencies regarding their assessment of various threats. Of the 382 agencies they spoke with, “74 percent reported anti-government extremism as one of the top three terrorist threats in their jurisdiction,” while only “39 percent listed extremism connected with Al Qaeda or like-minded terrorist organizations.”
Army Of God Hails Planned Parenthood Shootings
The anti-abortion group “Army of God” believes Planned Parenthood got what it deserved. Nevermind that innocent people were killed.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/army-god-activist-hails-planned-parenthood-shooting-they-reap-what-they-sow
@26 Liz, Why deviate from your claim and facts(Fiorina Lies and Ted Cruz touting support from the likes of himself bombers of abortion clinics and more to come) about Planned Parenthood ❓
Liz hero types other than Robert Dear are James Kopp & Eric Rudolph & Troy Newman(endorsed Ted Cruz) etc…
How many black people kill and destroy property like the LONG LIST of white men terrorizing fellow Americans in America at abortion clinics or at health workers homes etc…?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/30/us/anti-abortion-violence/
(CNN)Between 1973, when the Supreme Court decided abortion should be legal throughout the United States, and 2003, abortion providers have been the targets of more than 300 acts of extreme violence, including arson, bombings, murders and butyric acid attacks.
For years, anti-abortion extremists have been targeting Planned Parenthood, which provides reproductive health care, sex education to women and men and, at some clinics, abortions.
From protests to killings
For years, abortion providers have been targeted on a spectrum of aggressiveness. The National Abortion Federation reports more than 176,000 instances of picketing at clinics (and nearly 34,000 arrests) since 1977. It has documented more than 16,000 reported cases of hate mail or harassing phone calls, over 1,500 acts of vandalism and 400 death threats.
There have been more than 200 bombings and arson attacks at facilities that offer abortion services, the organization reports.
According to the federation, the first reported clinic arson occurred in 1976, three years after the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision. A series of clinic bombings followed in 1978 and 1984.
But violence ticked up dramatically in the 1990s. Anti-abortion extremists — particularly those aligned with the extremist group Army of God — began to make their position clear that killing abortion providers was the only way to stop the procedure from being performed.
• Dr. David Gunn was shot and killed in Pensacola, Florida, by a gunman who was against abortion in March 1993.
• Dr. John Bayard Britton and his volunteer security escort, James H. Barrett, were shot and killed in front of a Pensacola clinic in July 1994.
• Clinic employees Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols were shot and killed in Brookline, Massachusetts, in December 1994.
• Off-duty police Officer Robert Sanderson was killed in the bombing of a clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, in January 1998.
• A sniper killed Dr. Barnett Slepian in Amherst, New York, in October 1998. The 51-year-old physician had been the target of anti-abortion protesters since the 1980s.
• An anti-abortion gunman killed 67-year-old George Tiller in a Wichita, Kansas, church in 2009. Tiller was one of the few U.S. physicians who performed late-term abortions.
Security and fear
Anti-abortion violence also has caused considerable property damage, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research paper. The violence has amped up the need for more security, and it has made abortion facility workers more stressed and afraid, the paper said. Workers have resigned over concerns about being targeted or the fear of being victimized, it noted.
Acid attacks and anthrax threats
In the late 1990s, anti-abortion extremists used butyric acid in a series of attacks on clinics that did thousands of dollars in property damage…”
Ted Cruz Loves Killer Lover
‘Before Shooting, Cruz Touted Endorsement From Activist Who Called For Execution Of Abortion Doctors’
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/30/3726326/before-shooting-cruz-touted-endorsement-from-activist-who-called-for-execution-of-abortion-doctors/
Ted Cruz was the first Republican candidate to address the Planned Parenthood shooting, tweeting that he was “[p]raying for the loved ones of those killed, those injured and first responders who bravely got the situation under control in Colorado Springs.”
In a campaign event on Sunday, he called the murders “horrific and wrong.”
But just days before the shooting, Cruz touted the endorsement from an activist who has called for the “execution” of abortion providers. In his 2003 book, Troy Newman said the entire country was “blood-guilty” for their failure to kill “abortionists.”
(Read book excerpt)
Newman, currently the president of the far-right anti-abortion group Operation Rescue, argues that his book was just a “theological study” and that his writing does not constitute “advocating violence.”
…But in a September 2003 press release, Newman criticized the conviction of Paul Hill for murdering a Florida abortion doctor.”
I’m going to open up my home to Syrian Refugees just like Michael Moore…
http://www.mediaite.com/online/michael-moore-opens-his-apartment-to-refugees-sets-up-site-for-others-to-do-it/
That’s a great idea, Tbone. You invite those refugees into your home.
I can think of no better way to get them to leave quicker than they came.
I don’t know, Liz, tbone’s mom might be a good cook and not make them take ot the trash or mow the back yard
Remember Johnny “Mike” Spann, killed in the Battle of Qala-i-Jangi (11-25-2001)
http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/11/johnny-mike-spann-killed-in-the-battle-of-qala-i-jangi-11-25-2001/
From: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/30/quotes-of-the-day-2266/
“Eco-terrorism is on the decline, but even when it was at its height, no one blamed Al Gore for ELF attacks or told environmentalists to shut up lest they further inflame their tiny fringe. The way to combat environmentalist excess is to debate it on the merits and defeat it in the ballot box…
America doesn’t have a problem with Christian terrorism or with eco-terrorism. True homegrown extremists are but the smallest blip on our criminal-justice system’s radar. Thankfully, our few domestic terrorists are isolated, shunned by every reasonable activist, organization, politician, and citizen.
To claim otherwise is to lie. To claim otherwise is to tempt Americans to take their eyes off the real threat to our security — a rapidly growing mass movement that is wholly and completely dedicated to violence. Our real worry shouldn’t be an alienated teenager with a Confederate flag or an angry hermit who hates the government. It should be the fully mobilized jihadist armies controlling nation-sized chunks of territory, the entire governments dedicated to the spread of jihad and seeking nuclear weapons, and their tens of millions of supporters and sympathizers. These are the evil fanatics who have killed and maimed thousands of Americans, and aim to kill thousands more. They continue to show us what a true terror threat looks like, but too many of us still refuse to look.”
Michael Ramirez cartoon on global warming: http://www.investors.com/image/RAMclr-090515-threat-IBD-COLOR-FINAL.jpg.cms
If you kill a Chick with a Diick, expect to do some time:
http://news.yahoo.com/us-marine-found-guilty-killing-transgender-filipino-080856343.html
Convicted of Homocide and not Murder, Marine LCpl Pemberton has been convicted for the killing of Jennifer Laude.
I remember when I was in the Navy, and they would warn us about the possibility of getting a he/she instead of a she. Option A: Tip your hat, and wish her the finest of days as you gather your stuff and walk out. Option B: Have her blow you, then bang her in the butt like you wanted to when you picked her up. Wrap that rascal first through.
But whatever you do, don’t try to beat her up! If you do, she will either kick your a$$, or call the cops on you, and probably both. It will cost you much more than to have just walked away.
Eight people were killed, including a 16-year-old boy, and at least 20 others were wounded in shootings over the Thanksgiving weekend in Chicago, an increase over last year as the number of gunshot victims rose above 2,700 for the year. – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/#sthash.Kley022H.dpuf
“The court also ordered Pemberton, who has been detained at a Philippine military camp for about a year, to pay Laude’s family 4.6 million pesos ($98,000) in damages.”
Hmmm. My calculations only came up with around $36,000 max… and even that assumed three full-price cluck&sucks per day for the rest of her reasonable professional shelf life.
…though the awarded amount might have considered her dummy German “boyfriend” who was sending half his paycheck to her each month.
TRUTH: Robert Dear is the new GOP HERO even though he’s a long time hater of EGAL women’s healthcare/Planned LEGAL Parenthood DUH ❗ Like any wise person had to think much about it 😆 GOPers are so STUPID 🙄 Regardless, RokDrop has the female serviceherselfmember(Liz) hating on women and loving Robert Dear and his ilk ❗
Liz is for men controlling women’s reproductive LEGAL rights which then has a direct effect on women’s economic status. You go Non-Girl ❗ Liz…for self-induces abortions 😳 🙄 🙁 😯
“TRUTH: Robert Dear is the new GOP HERO”
The general came into the office the other day and handed out Robert Dear pictures to put next to our David Duke 2016 posters.
Robert Dear and his Guns of Baby-saving Justice make him not just a GOP hero but a hero to all!
…especially minorities…
…who “control their own bodies” at much higher rates than the general population…
…well… at least they control their bodies after pregnancy…
…not so much before.
This statistical difference is even higher if the Palins are excluded.
-Guy with a history of mental issues shoots up a clinic. When questioned about his motivations, he says, “I moved to Colorado for the weed, dude…”
Liberal left chant: “The right is violent and out of control!”
-Islamic militants commit over 27,000 Islamic Jihadi terror attacks on innocents around the world since 911 with thousands killed or maimed.
When questioned about their motivations, they respond in unison, “We want to reestablish the Caliphate!”
Liberal left chant: “Oh, if only we could understand these people. I wish they would tell us what they want! It must be democracy and jobs.”
“Liz…for self-induces abortions”
So, T-bone…do you asphyxiate yourself daily or is this just residual damage?
On the radio this morning, Michael Graham asked me about recent polls finding that 40 per cent of millennials think “hate speech” should be criminalized and nearly a third of Democrats feel the same way about dissent from “climate change” orthodoxy. And that’s why John Kerry stands up in Paris and blurts out that killing cartoonists for drawing something you disapprove of has a “legitimacy” or “rationale”. If you don’t believe in free speech for climate deniers or homophobes, why would you believe in it for Charlie Hebdo? Sure, you might be a little squeamish about gunning them all down in cold blood – but all you’re doing is quibbling over the penalty: fines for trans apostates, prison for climate apostates, death for Islamic apostates. They’re merely different points on the same continuum.
— Mark Steyn
Interview between Uproxx’s Danger Guerrero and Keith Phipps (who actually saw a screening of The Revenant in a theater):
DG: Right, but there’s no way you could have, like, gotten up to get popcorn and gotten stuck in a long line and missed Leonardo DiCaprio getting sexually assaulted by a male bear on two non-consecutive occasions?
KP: I can state definitively that I was present in the theater and fully awake throughout The Revenant and that it contains no scenes of a bear raping Leonardo DiCaprio, or anyone else.
DG: And you’re very sure about this? The no-bear-raping thing?
KP: I believe that part of what makes movies such a wonderful art form is the act of interpretation. There’s no “right” or “wrong” reading of a film. Having said that, anyone who tells you a bear rapes Leonardo DiCaprio in The Revenant is wrong.
DG: Right, but are you like very, very sure?
KP: I am.
Ace writes:
“I saw this headline earlier and I thought it was a nothing thing, because I thought he meant — I don’t know what I thought he meant, but I thought I must have read it wrong, because this social-promotion imbecile couldn’t possibly have declared that mass shootings don’t happen in Paris while standing in Paris in the aftermath of a mass shooting.
But he did.
He’s insane.”
tbone should note it’s Blacks getting fired… http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicagarrison/all-you-americans-are-fired#.qiGwG891v
ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER FAKE HATE CRIME:
Protester at Kean U. Fabricated Threats Against Black Students, Police Say. “Online threats to “kill every black male and female” at Kean University were fabricated by a former student and activist, a New Jersey county prosecutor, Grace H. Park, announced on Tuesday. The Star-Ledger reports that Kayla-Simone McKelvey, who is black, was charged with a third-degree count of creating a false public alarm.”
So we have black students in Chicago posting fake threats against white students, and black students at Kean posting fake threats against black students. All because of white privilege, or something.
by Glenn Reynolds
Charles Lindbergh advocated for the US to stay out of WW2 because Nazi Germany was unbeatable. Obama preaches some weird philosophy about no country having violent citizens except the US–in Paris while the bodies of the slain are still being buried…
We should not go into any war unless we’re willing to go all-in; but likewise, we should not assume any group of humans is superior to us. We should not attack those who are willing to be our friends or leave us alone; but we should never pay the Danegeld.
We’re all the same, except for leadership, motivation, skills, and equipment. And these are not all of equal weight.
Read about Isandhlwana and Rorke’s Drift, El Obeid and Omdurman, Goliad and San Jacinto, First Bull Run and Gettysburg, Kasserine Pass and El Guettar, Task Force Smith and Incheon.
Compare and contrast the victories and defeats. There are common threads.
“Of course Obama thinks the economy is doing fine. Everyone he meets can afford $38,000 a plate for dinner.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/usacsmret/status/671489259493318656
Heh. Yeah, it’s those GOP Mayors causing trouble in major cities…
http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/democrat_urban_monopolies_11-30-15.png
Both George Orwell (“Animal Farm”, 1945) and CS Lewis (“The Abolition of Man”, 1944) predicted the situation we have today. Many ignored their concise and coherent warnings; but the Left used their works as blueprints.
Obama has ISIS on the run: http://patterico.com/files/2015/12/Untitled-1.gif
@50: The only thing surprising about what you posted is that people are surprised by it. The system is setup to encourage the abuse that is happening. The corporate farms will say that the foreign workers provide the consumer cheaper products, but that doesn’t take into account all the tax money spent on people going on unemployment, welfare, etc. because they can’t get a job. I would rather pay more for my products than have millions of Americans on government programs because they can’t find a job.
Talk trash, get sued by… North Korea?
http://news.yahoo.com/n-korea-leaders-aunt-sues-defectors-south-065934303.html
Hmm… This makes me curious. If Ko Yong-Suk sues, wouldn’t the defendants attornies be able to request disclosure? I wonder what files they might be able to look through to defend their clients.
Slush funds, fraud, and illegal transactions might be revealed if she is forced to open her books.
@57, me too…
We’re so lucky in that we have the second amendment allowing Americans to have mass shootings every day of the year so be sure to tell your Korean friends how much you love your guns so the world can laugh at dumb GOP Americans/NRA allowing everyday mass shootings ❗ ❗ ❗
334 Days, 351 Mass Shootings
There have been more mass shooting this year in America than there have been days so far this year 😳
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/30/there-have-been-334-days-and-351-mass-shootings-so-far-this-year/
“It is just the latest in a year of more-than-daily mass shootings in America. In fact, there had already been one mass shooting on Friday — in the early morning hours, two people were killed and two injured in a shooting at a restaurant in Sacramento. Another mass shooting incident in Boston in the early hours of Thanksgiving Day took the life of a Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority rail conductor.
There have been at least 351 mass shootings so far this year, according tonews reports collected by a reddit community that tracks these incidents. The reddit tracker defines mass shootings as incidents in which four or more people, including the gunman, are killed or injured by gunfire. The Mass Shooting Tracker is different from other shooting databases in that it uses a broader definition of mass shooting — the old FBI definition focused on four or more people killed as part of a single shooting.
There were at least 12 mass shootings in the U.S. last week so far, counting the Colorado Springs shooting. That shooting would also be the second mass shooting in Colorado Springs this month.”
@53,
DUUUH, like the GOP hasn’t ever had plates costing that much ❓ Why don’t you show us something negative the Dems do that the GOP doesn’t do ❓ I’ve been showing anyone/everyone how crazy the GOP and/or their statements(full of lies or not) and its supporters such as you have been saying/doing for years and yet NOBODY has come anywhere close to me contrarily 😎 Why is this ❓ Because you or anyone else CAN’T ❗ ❗ ❗ NOBODY has ever tried because they couldn’t possibly show anyone that the Dems as a whole say/do such stupid etc…things as GOPers. 👿
Your issue is hypocritical because the GOP does the same and if(that’s a VERY big “IF”), they ever win a presidential election anytime soon whoever the GOP(is near an end so I’ll NEVER be wrong) president is will have MORE costly dinner plates just as Paul Ryan did way back in 2012. How stupid can GOPers be paying so much to hear a hopeful vice president speak 😆
1. Philly Union League’s Ritzy Paul Ryan Dinner
How much: $50,000 per plate
Earnings: about $600,000 to $1 million
http://financesonline.com/6-most-profitable-fundraising-dinners-and-events/
“In August 21, 2012, then vice presidential candidate (and Wisconsin congressman) Paul Ryan also went his rounds of high-priced receptions and donor engagements to boost his political bid in the 2012 US Elections. His most expensive fundraising dinner was the $50,000 per plate meal at the Union League in Philadelphia.”
We should all try to resist the urge to react to the provocations of those who fight with their tiny brains tied behind their back.
We should show we are more than wormfood and look around to find ways to help out the less fortunate while we’re this side of the dirt. There are a lot of them.
While some around us see happiness and try to take a dump on it, the more enlightened person strives to use his limited time to lift others out of slavery.
There are many opportunities to lift up those less fortunate than we. Homeless shelters, assisted living and nursing facilities, food banks, and more are all around us. And they need our time as well as our funds.
Whether you choose to celebrate our Savior’s birth later this month is between you and Him. But my wish for all of you is the following:
“The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the Lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace.”
And may you find where you can do something of eternal value.
White Gunmen Mistake by attacking the wrong facility which makes sense since nobody could explain how/why they left so quickly. But, if you think about it they were there killing disabled people when they realized…DUUUH, I thought this was Planned Parenthood 🙄
The Planned Parenthood Clinic Across Street From San Bernardino Shooting right by where 20 people were shot today in San Bernardino, California,
Those white gunmen are so dumb aye ❓
GOP Mayor of San Bernardino blew it ❗ Hey johnnyboy, since you don’t question GOP led cities, please tell us how in the world this numbnut could allow such a GOP Type Killing on HIS Watch ❓
Syed Farook named as a suspect in San Bernadino attack that killed 14
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-live-updates-htmlstory.html
I never questioned Rahm Emanuel’s actions before Laquan McDonald was killed. My suspicions are on what he did afterwards.
Black Lives Matter seems to agree with me on this.
P.S. I somehow don’t think Farooq Syed was attempting to shoot up Planned Parenthood. Perhaps you were a bit premature in your assumptions.
#63 If by “across the street” from Planned Parenthood you mean any location west of the shooting location, I suppose you could be correct. Using this reasoning, Disneyland is also across the street from the shooting location. However, the Planned Parenthood in San Bernardino is about one kilometer directly to the southwest of the shooting location (about one mile away by SUV).
@63, one of the murderers was at the banquet and asked to leave. He came back armed and killed people. He wasn’t “white” and apparently didn’t ask the GOP Mayor for permission.
I realize that you don’t often apologize for racist misstatements; but are you interested in this case? Apparently it was not a white Christian GOPer intending to attack a PP office… it was three Muslims attacking a Christmas/Holiday banquet…
@68,
I was just going with the substantial odds with white man domestic terrorism which is HUUUGE in America compared to anyone else.
You’re 7 Times More Likely To Be Killed By A GOPer Right-Wing Extremist Than A Muslim Terrorist
If you want to live in fear, let’s put it in perspective.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/11/30/3725562/you-are-more-than-7-times-as-likely-to-be-killed-by-a-right-wing-extemist-than-by-muslim-terrorists/
“Though terrorism perpetrated by Muslims receives a disproportionate amount of attention from politicians and reporters, the reality is that right-wing extremists pose a much greater threat to people in the United States than terrorists connected to ISIS or similar organizations. As UNC Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer explained last June in the New York Times, Islam-inspired terror attacks “accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.” Meanwhile, “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”
Kurzman and Schanzer’s methodology, moreover, may underestimate the degree to which domestic terrorists in the United States are motivated by right-wing views. As they describe the term in their New York Times piece, the term “right-wing extremist” primarily encompasses anti-government extremists such as members of the sovereign citizenmovement, although it also includes racist right-wing groups such as neo-Nazis. Thus, it is not yet clear whether Dear, who made anti-abortion remarks but also reportedly referenced President Obama, was motivated in part by the kind of anti-government views that are the focus of Kurzman and Schanzer’s inquiry.
Kurzman and Schanzer also surveyed hundreds of law enforcement agencies regarding their assessment of various threats. Of the 382 agencies they spoke with, “74 percent reported anti-government extremism as one of the top three terrorist threats in their jurisdiction,” while only “39 percent listed extremism connected with Al Qaeda or like-minded terrorist organizations.”
It isn’t clear what their motives were, but as more pieces of the puzzle are coming together it is starting to look like Islamic terrorism. I have heard reports that people in their home were working in the garage late into the night and receiving multiple deliveries supposedly with 3 or 4 Middle Eastern men visiting at all hours.
I get that the odds of being killed by Muslim terrorism are low in our country right now. I have a feeling that could change in the near future. Globally, the string of coordinated mass attacks has been pretty consistent over the past month. It may have finally hit our shores.
Gen. Curtis “Mike” Scaparrotti, USFK Commanding General, 69th Commandant of Cadets, Facebook Romantic? Well, the first two, but probably not the third:
http://www.stripes.com/news/email-scammers-now-posing-as-usfk-commander-1.290249
Lots of scammers out there. The usual applies: If it sounds too good to be true, it’s probably a scam.
@69, why leave out 9/11? I think you’ll find, if you do better research, the “right-wing extremists” they list were registered Democrats–and voted that way. The so-called “right-wing” KKK was all Democrats. All of the recent shootings have been done by Democrats or their mentally-ill offspring. You need to get some fresh air.
BTW, I am not saying all or most Democrats are homicidal lunatics. Not all/most Muslims, either. So knock off the sophomoric strawman BS. Unless you stop using stereotypes from 1930s commie agitprop, you’re not going to garner anything but contempt.
BUT! Maybe the San Bernadino killings could have been prevented if only the right signs were posted on the outside of the building:
“@69, why leave out 9/11?”
Because the argument would fall flat.
The argument would also fall flat if world statistics, or even western statistics, were included.
The argument would also fall flat if thwarted attacks were included (those don’t make the news anymore, and there are a good number of them)
“Lots of scammers out there. The usual applies: If it sounds too good to be true, it’s probably a scam.”
That link was pretty funny! 🙂
The media now has new term to explain this latest shooting “workplace Jihad”:
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/03/abcs-brian-ross-on-san-bernardino-this-looks-like-a-hybrid-workplace-jihad/
If this was all about a disgruntled worker who just happened to be a radical Muslim getting back at his employer than why involve the wife and have an IED bomb making factory in your condo? It is pretty clear they had a plan for larger carnage.
You’re 7 Times More Likely To Be Killed By A “GOPer Right-Wing Extremist Than A Muslim Terrorist”
You are also more likely to be killed by a falling rock than a falling Gutenberg Bible.
The fact that the rare number of Muslim terrorists cause a full one seventh the deaths of plentiful “GOPer Right-Wing Extremist” indicates they are hughly dangerous.
“Sudden Jihad Syndrome”? http://www.conservapedia.com/Sudden_Jihad_Syndrome
Is that really a thing?
LOL from the comments at http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/12/thoughts-on-the-san-bernardino-murders.php
“Don’t be crazy. It wasn’t Climate. It was a YouTube video.”
@72 & 73 “why leave out 9/11?”
Because the “War on Terror” hadn’t begun yet until numbnuts Bush declared such a stupid thing/war that CANNOT EVER BE WON 🙄 Oh, and to follow that up numbnuts Bush invaded a country(Iraq) where USA WARHAWKS & WARDOGS/Servicethemselfmembers terrorized citizens of Iraq in another stupid USA so-called “war.” 😈
Wikipedia:
“U.S. President George W. Bush first used the term “War on Terror” on 20 September 2001.[44] The Bush administration and the western media have since used the term to argue a global military, political, legal, and conceptual struggle against both organizations designated terrorist and regimes accused of supporting them.”
@74, “The media now has new term to explain this latest shooting “workplace Jihad”
If only your boy Bush hadn’t started the “new term – War on Terror” 💡 “workplace jihad” wouldn’t have been made up by the media. ❗
GOP Leader Trump Attacks Jewish people
Donald Trump Tells Republican Jews That He Is a Negotiator, Just Like ‘You Folks’
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/12/donald-trump-gives-non-kosher-speech-to-gop-jews.html#
“I’m a negotiator, like you folks,” the candidate told the assembled Jewry. As the speech unfolded, it became clear that the line was not spontaneous and that Trump had decided his passion for saving money would be a real winner with this audience.
After touting his plans to renegotiate the Iran agreement, Trump asked, “Is there anybody in this room who doesn’t renegotiate deals?” After a moment of reflection, Trump concluded that there were probably more renegotiators here than in “any room I’ve ever spoken.”
The Jews will never support Trump, because they like to buy their politicians
The candidate went on to clarify that, while he admires much of the way Jews handle their money, he isn’t crazy about how they try to buy up our political system.
“I don’t want money, so, therefore, you’re not going to support me because, stupidly, you want to give money,” Trump said. “You want to control your own politician.”
Trump repeated this point about how he wouldn’t take the money that his audience was desperate to give him several times in his short speech.
To review, Trump assumed a room of Jews were negotiators, like him. And then said they won’t support him because he doesn’t want their money.”
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2015/12/202_192369.html
Hero back on feet
Army Staff Sergeant Kim Jung-won jumped up and down to the cheers of a small crowd at a veterans’ hospital in Seoul, Wednesday. If anybody detected a bit of a limp, it’s because the 23-year-old stood on an artificial limb, having lost the lower part of his right leg in the explosion of a North Korean landmine on the south side of the Demilitarized Zone on Aug. 4……………………………
President Park Geun-hye, Defense Minister Han Min-koo and U.S. Forces Korea (USFK) Commander Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, among other public officials, praised the two soldiers’ acts of heroism. As a result, the government has decided to cover all Kim’s medical and rehab expenses, addressing an absurd regulation that only covers one month of treatment for soldiers injured in the line of duty.
This surprised me. I hope SK changes their regulation to cover all their servicemen injured in the LOD,
GOP For Terrorists Buying Lots of Guns in Good Ole USA
Senate Republicans Vote To Allow Terrorists To Legally Buy Guns In The US
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/12/03/senate-republicans-vote-terrorists-legally-buy-guns.html
“Senate Republicans voted today to block a measure that would have prevented individuals on the terror watch list from legally buying guns in the United States.”
I thought there was a “War on Terror” ❓ 😳 🙁 🙄 😈
Thems GOPers sure do know how to win the “War on Terror” aye 😆
Limbaugh Blames Left For San Bernardino Shooting
Of course, this had to happen.
GOP Lovers Please Explain Your Lovers Statement as it Makes NO Sense to ME ❓
Limbaugh on San Bernardino: The Left ‘Is As Guilty as Those Pulling the Trigger Here’
http://www.mediaite.com/online/limbaugh-on-san-bernardino-the-left-is-as-guilty-as-those-pulling-the-trigger-here/
“It is never more obvious to me than it is today,” he said, “that the left knows it is responsible for this. The left knows that it is as guilty as those pulling the trigger here, and they’re doing everything they can to transfer that guilt and cover it up.”
HUH ❓
ROKDROP FAVORITE George Zimmerman Suspended From Twitter After Posting Nudes Of Ex
Let’s get real here, ROKDROP is a GOPer LOVER website as I don’t recall anyone ever saying anything bad about George Zimmerman 😆
Bad person George Zimmerman has once again hit the news for bad behavior.
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/12/george-zimmerman-reportedly-kicked-off-twitter-posting-alleged-ex-girlfriend-nudes?utm_campaign=popculturetw&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
George Zimmerman’s frequently controversial Twitter behavior appears to have actually caused his account to get suspended, following his posts of apparent nudes of an alleged ex-girlfriend. Zimmerman accuses this alleged ex-partner of cheating on him with, according to his own tweet, “a dirty Muslim.” Another tweet also included a phone number “with a Kentucky area code,” according to the Daily Dot, who placed a call to the number and confirmed it appeared to belong to the woman named in one of the tweets.
In addition to clearly violating Twitter’s abusive behavior policy, which strictly bans the sharing of “intimate photos” without the subject’s consent, some argue that the posts may have broken the law:
Click on MY link for MORE ❗
ROKDROP LOVES GEORGE and I’m sure as usual nobody here(especially EGGHEAD since George has broken the law in the name of women) will find anything wrong with ROKDROP’s GEORGE 😥
“Sensible gun laws work, we’ve proven it in California.”
— Sen. Barbara Boxer, the day AFTER the San Bernardino massacre
The problems caused by liberal policies of chronic dependence, no ownership or investment in life, rewards for no personal responsibility, and acceptance of all cultures as valid and equal will not be solved by more gun control.
…but gun control is an easy thing to yell about whenever there are indication that fundamental ideology has failed.
Someone wasn’t getting enough hugs… http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Bridgeport-Officer-Who-Reported-Racist-Letter-Wrote-It-Police-360060851.html
Ulster County Sheriff Paul J. Van Blarcum encouraged residents of his New York jurisdiction Thursday to carry their firearms if licensed.
“In light of recent events that have occurred in the United States and around the world, I want to encourage citizens of Ulster County who are licensed to carry a firearm to PLEASE DO SO,” Sheriff Van Blarcum wrote in a Facebook post.
A day before the San Bernardino attack, Detroit Police Chief James Craig said legally armed citizens can discourage terrorists. He told the local CBS-TV affiliate, “If you’re a terrorist, or a carjacker, you want an unarmed citizenry.”
“I think after Paris, and as we learn more about this event [in San Bernardino] we need to be nimble enough and pragmatic enough to recognize that there’s definitely a small number of documented mass-casualty shootings that have been ended by off-duty law enforcement and civilians,” said Eugene O’Donnell, a professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.
A former police officer, Mr. O’Donnell said about half of mass shootings are finished before the first officer arrives, given that “these are people that are coming in to kill.”
“They’re coming in to kill as many people as they can, as quickly as they can, so the old model — the police would get there, they would cordon the place off, you could talk people through — a large number of these events are going to be over before the cops get there,” Mr. O’Donnell said.
“ROKDROP LOVES GEORGE” My, but you do love to shout… Kinda like Tourette syndrome…
Zimmerman was a Democrat activist. Why would anyone here, other than you, have any connection to him?
Revealed: Brother of San Bernardino gunman is a decorated Navy veteran honored for his role in the war on terror
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3345337/Brother-San-Bernardino-gunman-decorated-Navy-veteran-honored-role-war-terror.html
Trump delivers, even before the Primary… http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/trump-gets-quick-results-for-wounded-veteran-in-va-disputes/
@92, we can’t be blamed for our siblings behavior–and vice-versa.
“Brother of San Bernardino gunman is a decorated Navy veteran honored for his role in the war on terror”
Was he “honored” for his “roll” or did he just get a participation award for showing up?
CH, LOL, some of those were for showing up at the time he served. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as long as he wasn’t involved in their crimes.
BTW, mass shootings are way up under Obama, according to some folks: http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/12/mass-shootings-have-skyrocketing-700-under-obama-why-2761436.html
Mass shootings: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/120215-783412-obama-wrong-mass-shootings-happen-elsewhere-and-more-frequently.htm?p=full
Or
400 actual rocket scientists and something really, really cool: http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a18404/blue-origin-rocket-scientists-celebrate-landing/
“BTW, mass shootings are way up under Obama”
Of course they are.
The Islamics are unafraid. The white nutjobs are angry. The minorities are riled up. The blacks feel energized and empowered.
…and the reality is that, while crazy white conservative right-wing Christian Republicans (or anyone who can be misrepresented as one) make big news, many of these “mass shootings” are done by some brother in the hood shooting into a group of other brothers in the hood over some wannabe gangsta-inspired conflict. It just doesn’t make the news…
…and, of course some (documemted) crazy white hits some random public place and it is shocking… while some black gangsta is just taking care of business in his own hood… so that is nobody else’s problem.
…but they are included when mass shooting statistics are trotted out to prove some points but the source is hidden when they prove others.
Obama has inflamed racial, social, and class tensions while energizing and empowering the angry and crazy on all sides.
Meanwhile, we are having our “Holiday Party” anyway.
And if you like, you can find Christmas Gift Ideas here: http://www.BibleGateway.com
@98,
You’re just like a GOP presidential candidate in that you LIE, care nothing about TRUE FACTS, and that LIES are FACTS. How about a link to support EACH of your untrue claims 🙄
If/When you attempt to do so you’ll need to shut your mouth/opinion and summarize how EACH of your links support your original claim you EGGHEAD LIAR ❗ ❗ ❗
I’ll help you, all you have to do is provide us 4 links for each of your claims below…
1)The Islamics are unafraid.
2)The white nutjobs are angry.
3)The minorities are riled up.
4)The blacks feel energized and empowered.
5)Obama has inflamed racial tensions.
6)Obama has inflamed social tentions.
7)Obama has inflamed class tensions.
8)Obama has energized and empowered the angry on all sides.
9)Obama has energized and empowered the crazy on all sides.
EGGHEAD tried to say illiterately “…but they are included when mass shooting statistics are trotted out to prove some points but the source is hidden when they prove others.”
Forget about your sic/poor English sentence, I’d just like to know WTF “they” are? And do your “theys” refer to two different groups in the same sentence? This is the 2nd time(or countless time) you recently just blab, blab, blab, like Charlie Brown’s teacher or Jeb Bush when I asked you before to tell us who “they” are but of course you CANNOT because if you do you’ll incriminate your EGGHEADED SELF 🙄
EGGHEAD asks “Was he “honored” for his “roll” or did he just get a participation award for showing up?”
Don’t you know you EGGHEAD ❓ 🙄 If you had a normal head you’d be able to think about it and figure it out but you don’t have a normal head so you can’t because you’re an EGGHEAD ❗
@94,
“we can’t be blamed for our siblings behavior–and vice-versa.”
Who is “we” or do you obviously have an alternate meaning of who “we” are EGGHEAD #2 🙄
Here is my holiday reading gift. It offers some insight into the cause of many of the world’s problems; poor critical thinking.
@74 GI Korea,
GI Korea is the new ROK DROP PRETENDER, I call BS on your claim that “CNN(per your link)” said…[a new term to explain this latest shooting was “workplace Jihad”] 🙄 Please, tell us who at CNN said such a thing ❓
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html
@74 GI Korea,
What CNN did mention in the article you linked to was “fiancée visa” and so we have it, USA servicethemselfmembers are the reason/originators for the existence of the “fiancée visa” 🙄
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html
What was mentioned in your CNN link was “fiancée visa” which USA servicethemselfmembers were the originators ❗
But I digress, GI Korea’s “workplace Jihad” is thus far simply workplace violence(didn’t white man start this in the USA i.e. post offices etc…?) since no evidence has come forth that San Bernardino, CA was linked to any terror network ❗
Therefore, until there is evidence, the WHITE MAN is the ONLY cause of 350+ mass shootings in the USA so far in 2015 😳
“Attorney General Loretta Lynch pledged to a Muslim advocacy and lobbying group that she would take aggressive action against anyone who used “anti-Muslim rhetoric” that “edges toward violence.””
…yet nothing is mentioned about radical mosques preaching violence against the infidels.
And we thought Bush had the monopoly on Upsidedown World.
MIT Professor Noam Chomsky says Republicans are no longer a normal political party but a ‘Radical Insurgency’ 😐
We need more people like Noam to educate the youth of today on the TRUTH about GOPers ❗
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/noam-chomsky-the-gop-is-no-longer-a-normal-political-party-its-a-radical-insurgency/
“It’s important to recognize that they are no longer a normal political party,” [Chomsky] said in an interview published on Thursday, adding that “the former [Republican] Party is now a ‘radical insurgency’ that has pretty much abandoned parliamentary politics, for interesting reasons that we can’t go into here.”
“…yet nothing is mentioned about radical mosques preaching violence against the infidels.”
Why don’t you send her the list you EGGHEAD and while you’re at it include the link here or is this just another one of your claims 🙄 EGGHEAD, she doesn’t have jurisdiction abroad 😯
tbone is just a listserv, isn’t it…
@104- If you would stop sniffing glue and actually read what I wrote I never mentioned CNN, I said media. If you click the second link I provided you would read that ABC News’ Brian Ross called it “workplace Jihad”. Last I checked ABC News is part of the media.
GI Korea, Tbone does not need to be responded to. If he mentions something you want to rant about, you can do so in the guise of a response…
…but his “accusations” are not grounded in reality, his points are not related, and his demands are not designed to get meaningful responses that move the conversation forward.
In other words, he has no intention of engaging in serious debate with an avtual resolution. He is just trying anything to get a response…
…as getting people to respond to his obvious idiocy is the most personal power he ever had or ever will have… until the AI content filters get good enough to separate the sheep from the goats and a great deal of idiocy is filtered from the internet.
I urge everyone to ignore him. He will be gone in a week.
“If you would stop sniffing glue”
Stop trying to weasel your way out of your CNN link. I suggested you were a pretender at the least any so you respond like EGGHEAD as a LIAR with your “sniffing glue” LIE 🙄 😆 😈
“I never mentioned CNN, I said media.”
Yeah, and CNN is “the media” which you linked to FIRST 🙄 Why did you link to CNN after your said “the media says…”workplace Jihad.” Sorry, I can’t overturn your BS ❗
Have a wonderful week!!
From the NYT!!!!!
And remember, when people are talking about gun control, they’re not talking about Obama’s many failures, ranging from the failures of vetting and counter-terrorism that may have led to the San Bernardino attacks themselves, to Obama’s foreign policy debacles in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, to how the #BringBackOurGirls hashtag campaign against Boko Haram accomplished nothing, to how Putin is running wild in Eastern Europe, to Obama’s plans to import more poorly-vetted refugees from Muslim countries that foment terror or the still-anemic economy that has left far too many Americans unemployed or underemployed despite years of “recovery.”
Those are all things that the Obama Administration — and the Hillary Clinton campaign — don’t want to talk about. So the editorial board of the Times has pulled out all the stops to ensure that we talk about gun control instead. Gun control isn’t a great issue for the Democrats, but it’s better than all those other topics of discussion, and the expected angry response from the gun-rights community will ensure that people aren’t talking about topics that make the White House look bad.
Gun control is the Democrats’ Dokdo.
Before the assault weapons ban, assault rifles were kind of an obscure collector’s item and few people had them. My husband owned an AR 15 at the time. Now, assault rifles are ubiquitous…just a few days ago we were in Bass proshop and they had them on display there.
The Democrats have been so good for the firearm and ammo business it’s almost as though that is their intention.
After Obama’s recent speeches, the stores will probably be sold out of ammunition, like they were in 2008.
Interesting when a white guy goes on a shooting spree, the blame falls on whites, Christians, conservatives, Republicans, and guns.
When a Muslim goes on a shooting spree, the blame is only on the guns.
Side note: I have been spending a lot of time with Muslims recently… and am developing a modified outlook on the entire situation… understanding a number of valid concepts from their point of view. I will write about that in some time when my conclusions are complete. As of now, one thing that has been reinforced is that Islam is really not compatible with functional American values and lifestyles… and, while toleration of non-intrusive beliefs is an American attribute, Islam, like beastiality or the Kardashians, should neither be encouraged nor empowered.
Importing fanatics directly from the source is national madness.
I had some Muslim neighbors when we lived in Arlington, near DC.
They had children about the same age as ours, so they would play together a lot and I’d often talk to the mothers. I learned a lot about their traditions and holidays, and the kids were pretty well behaved (not like Mormons, more like American kids).
One day I was watching a son and daughter of one of the families and the subject of dogs came up, somehow. According to daughter there was a mean man who owned a dog and would use it to “attack children”. Apparently the man was also Muslim. She relayed that one day the man tried to use the dog to attack them. I don’t know the veracity of the claim, but what she said next made me raise an eyebrow.
“Now, he is going to burn in hellfire for attacking Muslim children!”
Attacks on other children were fine I guess?
This is a person who was born in the USA.
Liz, according to the Koran, only Muslims count as people. Killing non-Muslims is no more serious than killing fleas. Unless you’re on the Haj.
The President’s Legacy is mighty!! https://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/liberal-nihilism
Yeah, I kind of got that impression when she stated that. But I honestly had no idea before…and I thought I knew these people pretty well…but a young daughter says what she is taught, and doesn’t know to have the same social filter as an adult in mixed company might.
New news, the DOD has just announced some sort of martial program where they will allow servicemembers to be armed in units. In fact, they are insisting on it. They want the servicepeople to wear the arms on holsters, openly, not concealed, however.
I don’t think this has made the news yet, it should shortly.
So the Man gets protection while everyone plots to take it away from the little people…
…well… except for the criminals.
They haven’t really come up with a way to take their guns.
I think it’s a good thing they will be able to carry on base.
“Ninety-three percent of Muslims do not support extremist views of terrorism.” https://encounteringislam.org/misconceptions
Great!! Since there are roughly 1 Billion Muslims (according to that website), we only have to worry about 70 Million of them trying to kill us.
Perhaps we can afford just a smidgen* of doubt that the Obama administration is being totally honest with us…
I’m not rushing out to buy guns and ammo; but I really wouldn’t criticize someone who felt differently…
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* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUtDFDU4kMk
“Gun control is the Democrats’ Dokdo.”
You Got No Clue EGGHEAD 😆
You EGGHEADEDLY forgot about the MOST VAST political group in America 🙄 How many Independents in S. Korea on Dokdo? That would require an English link you EGGHEAD ❗ Not just your typical EGGHEADED opinions EGGHEAD ❗
USA #’s
USA Independents ~ 43%
Democrats ~ 30%
GOPer HATING RADICAL INSURGENCY ~ 26%
HeeHeeHeeHeeHee, GOPers are in LAST PLACE 😎
President Obama wants us to remember Muslims in the US military.
He forgets the lessons Nidal Hasan taught at Fort Hood.
True Fact from Ace: In 2015 alone, France suffered more casualties from gun violence than the U.S. has suffered during Obama’s entire presidency http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/2015/12/in-2015-alone-france-suffered-more.html
Setnaffa… keep your facts to yourself.
Guns = Bad
…as that is an easier statement to make than Republicans keep people poor and Democrats keep them chronically dependent… or blacks engage in a disproportionate amount of violent crime… or Muslims can be dangerous… or revolving door justice for violent crime with throw away the key justice for low-level drug crime is poor policy… etc.
And yet, even in Chicago there are righteous shootings… http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/concealed-permit-holder-saves-chicago-crowd-from-mass-shooter/
You’re right, CH. If we make guns illegal, no one will ever get shot. That’s how we stopped everyone from smoking pot.
An interesting question: http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/07/is-barack-obama-qualified-to-identify-true-islam/