Senior high school girls get information at a special forces booth to recruit noncommissioned officers in a job fair for high school graduates at a Seoul convention on Aug. 31, 2016. (Yonhap)
Maybe something was lost in the translation. Surely the ROK won’t be recruiting high grads as NCO’s. Is there a difference in their entry level rank structure of a full term voluntary recruit and a mandatory service conscript?
ChickenHead
8 years ago
WTF, Korea.
Have you, too, fallen for the misinformation that the only way for women to he equal to men is to try to shoehorn them into being the same as men?
It’s not just women. Any Korean who volunteers for service longer than the regular conscription period enters as an E-6. I remember working with a ROKAF ํ์ฌ who had only been in the service for 1.5 years while I was a SPC with 4+ years of service. It was pretty annoying.
“Time in” has always been a meh subject with me. Because the military’s old and from back in the days when they just took anyone who could soak up a bullet they needed a way to promote people so they used the easiest one that fit the times. Say you haven’t been shot in a while, you’re a Corporal!
When a force develops into a professional one there needs to be other considerations that easily outweigh time in and that’s skill. Unfortunately time in sticks around and festers like an old wound.
When I enlisted my final time I had already gotten a degree (a real on, not one from the U of F-Sticks Online) and worked in the IT force for 8 years. Now because the Army eats a daily helping of Stoopid Pills they put IT into the Signal Corps instead of creating an IT Corps and merging what relevant Signal jobs remained into it so there were no IT Officers (no shortcut for me like Dentists, Doctors, and Clergy), the “IT Warrant” was basically just a Cisco dude (f networking, seriously f it), so I had no choice but to enlist.
So from someone who saw it from the other side is it fair to me that I an 8 year pro with 4 years schooling is subordinate to some clown who converted from a Radio MOS because his job was obsolete and sat around stuck in the 80’s?
This is all part of my bigger rant which pops on here occasionally entitled “Rank is gh3y and must go!”. โ
I totally see your point, but this wasn’t a comparable situation. The guy was a year younger than me and hadn’t even gone to university. It rankled me the same way that KATUSA sergeants who got too big for their britches did.
Oh you mean the whole RoK NCO vs. US NCO thing? Yeah… well thank the USFK for that nonsense. RoK E-5’s range in usefulness from E-2 to E-4 with a rare actual E-5 performer on average. They know it and treat them as such; it’s dumba55 USFK that took the line of “They’re NCOs so they are to be treated as such.”
Maybe something was lost in the translation. Surely the ROK won’t be recruiting high grads as NCO’s. Is there a difference in their entry level rank structure of a full term voluntary recruit and a mandatory service conscript?
WTF, Korea.
Have you, too, fallen for the misinformation that the only way for women to he equal to men is to try to shoehorn them into being the same as men?
Women enter at the NCO level. Don’t ask, I’m not telling. Actually I’m not telling because I don’t know why, but that’s the way it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jkREP29170 ๐
Btw fun fact, before becoming a politically incorrect comedian the Dice Man used to front Iron Maiden. ๐
It’s not just women. Any Korean who volunteers for service longer than the regular conscription period enters as an E-6. I remember working with a ROKAF ํ์ฌ who had only been in the service for 1.5 years while I was a SPC with 4+ years of service. It was pretty annoying.
“Time in” has always been a meh subject with me. Because the military’s old and from back in the days when they just took anyone who could soak up a bullet they needed a way to promote people so they used the easiest one that fit the times. Say you haven’t been shot in a while, you’re a Corporal!
When a force develops into a professional one there needs to be other considerations that easily outweigh time in and that’s skill. Unfortunately time in sticks around and festers like an old wound.
When I enlisted my final time I had already gotten a degree (a real on, not one from the U of F-Sticks Online) and worked in the IT force for 8 years. Now because the Army eats a daily helping of Stoopid Pills they put IT into the Signal Corps instead of creating an IT Corps and merging what relevant Signal jobs remained into it so there were no IT Officers (no shortcut for me like Dentists, Doctors, and Clergy), the “IT Warrant” was basically just a Cisco dude (f networking, seriously f it), so I had no choice but to enlist.
So from someone who saw it from the other side is it fair to me that I an 8 year pro with 4 years schooling is subordinate to some clown who converted from a Radio MOS because his job was obsolete and sat around stuck in the 80’s?
This is all part of my bigger rant which pops on here occasionally entitled “Rank is gh3y and must go!”. โ
But anyhoo… have a good Lab-Day-Week… ๐
I totally see your point, but this wasn’t a comparable situation. The guy was a year younger than me and hadn’t even gone to university. It rankled me the same way that KATUSA sergeants who got too big for their britches did.
Oh you mean the whole RoK NCO vs. US NCO thing? Yeah… well thank the USFK for that nonsense. RoK E-5’s range in usefulness from E-2 to E-4 with a rare actual E-5 performer on average. They know it and treat them as such; it’s dumba55 USFK that took the line of “They’re NCOs so they are to be treated as such.”
Seen countless ARCOM’s wasted on KATUSAs. โ