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guitard
6 years ago

From the article: “Ten foreign missions in the country, including the U.S. Embassy, will join the festival for lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgender people (LGBT).”

I’m kind of surprised that the U.S. embassy is jumping into the fray on this. Although the State Dept recognized same sex partners long before the U.S. military did, so maybe it’s not too surprising. Having said that … I wonder how the Commander would respond to a group of gay soldiers who said they wanted to participate – and requested the Commander make an exception to the policy that prohibits USFK members from participating in rallies/demonstrations?

Flyingsword
Flyingsword
6 years ago

I strongly opposed to people that let a superstition run their lives.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
6 years ago

If you are concerned with what other people are doing in their bedroom, you need to get laid more.

2ID Doc
6 years ago

Hmm the Norks and the Conservative Christian South are in lockstep on something! Perhaps they will issue Great & Dear Leader pins to their members to identify them?

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

” I wonder how the Commander would respond to a group of gay soldiers who said they wanted to participate – and requested the Commander make an exception to the policy that prohibits USFK members from participating in rallies/demonstrations?”
I’d hazard a guess the Commander would allow the exception to policy, as long as the service members participated on their own time, out of uniform….not as representatives of the military. That would be the safest path.

Doug
Doug
6 years ago

In the eyes of God these people are sinners and in the end they will pay for their sins. Personally I think they have very serious mental issues. But I could care less for what they do. I have no hate for them, hop they enjoy themselves.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
6 years ago

“in the end they will pay for their sins”

That strategy might need to be reconsidered if the plan is to make them pay in the rear end.

setnaffa
6 years ago

“In the eyes of God [all] people are sinners and in the [Day of Judgement, all those who deny Christ] will pay for their sins.” FIFY.

Revelation 20:15 (ESV) is explicit: “And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.”

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
6 years ago

Christians throw them into a lake of fire.

Jews throw stones at them.

Muslims throw them off of buildings.

Fags just don’t get any breaks with the children of Abraham, do they?

setnaffa
6 years ago

CH, you missed a slightly important point.

Christians don’t throw anyone into the lake of fire. To get there one has to climb over the cross.

And since we’re none of us perfect, we all need a Savior. The first item listed as an “abomination” in the Bible is not some sort of sexual sin, it’s pride.

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

During a British conference on comparative religions, experts from around the world debated what, if any, belief was unique to the Christian faith. They began eliminating possibilities. Incarnation? Other religions had different versions of gods’ appearing in human form. Resurrection? Again, other religions had accounts of return from death.
The debate went on for some time until C. S. Lewis wandered into the room. “What’s the rumpus about?” he asked, and heard in reply that his colleagues were discussing Christianity’s unique contribution among world religions. Lewis responded, “Oh, that’s easy. It’s grace.”

setnaffa
6 years ago

Liz, you’re right. The Gospel is about what Jesus did, not about what we do. Great study on this is Matt Chandler’s book “The Explicit Gospel”.

Samples are available at Amazon and videos on YouTube

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
6 years ago

After C. S. Lewis finished, a dark-skinned gentleman in the corner came over and said, “Oh but Mr. Lewis, sir, I will be thinking Hinduism is having also the concept of divine grace within its teachings. Perhaps I can offer most graciously to you a link from the Wikipedia.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kripa_(philosophy)

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

To which CS Lewis countered.
“Grace, plus bacon”

setnaffa
6 years ago

Seriously, CH? Hindus believe in grace not works?

From your link, “The Hindu philosopher Madhvacharya held that grace was not a gift from God, but rather must be earned.”

That is the difference. The Bible explicitly (that word again) calls it out in Ephesians 2:8-9: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.”

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
6 years ago

“But, Mr. Lewis, sir, I am but a Hindu and not one of the filthy stinking Muslims. It is most acceptable for a Hindu to eat bacon. In fact, I will be telling you, most unlike other religions, Hindus have no prohibition on any dietary choices. We can be even eating beef if we so desire.”

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

To which CS Lewis responded.
Grace, plus reliable bacon.
(without the ability to defend bacon, one has less chance of keeping bacon…as everyone loves bacon)

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
6 years ago

Setnaffa, this is all pretty interesting… and would have never considered it further except that C. S. Lewis had opinions on it.

It seems it is also a divisive issue between branches of Christianity.

I did run across this:

“Paradise is something of immense value; a person cannot earn it by virtue of his deeds alone, but by the Grace and Mercy of Allah.”

It seems Islam has a similar idea to Christanity about grace being an unearned gift from God/Allah.

I presume C. S. Lewis had a better idea about all this than my 15 minutes of research…

….but when someone puts down Christianity next time, I want to use the grace line…

…but I want to back it up with a little more.

We got the Hindu thing covered. How do we address Islam?

setnaffa
6 years ago

Islam denies the Divinity of Christ, thus, they are not Christ-followers. From Wikipedia: “Islam rejects the divinity of Jesus and teaches that Jesus was not God incarnate, nor the Son of God, and—according to some interpretations of the Quran—the crucifixion, death and resurrection is not believed to have occurred, and rather that God saved him. Despite the earliest Muslim traditions and exegesis quoting somewhat conflicting reports regarding a death and its length, the mainstream Muslim belief is that Jesus did not physically die, but was instead raised alive to heaven.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

Claiming Islam to be a branch of Christianity is probably a good way to end your life painfully in certain Muslim neighborhoods. Some folks just don’t have much of a sense of humor about their religion–and have been known to kill Italian nuns in Somalia because Danish atheists published cartoons of a certain Prophet.

Christians will, it is true, bore the uninterested with details of their faith (time and time again); but it is done in the same way decent people stop and try to render aid at a car accident or during a flood. If it’s not done with love, it’s not really a Christian act (see 1 John)

If you like CS Lewis, I recommend, in order: “Mere Christianity”, “The Great Divorce”, “The Screwtape Letters”, “A Grief Observed”, and “The Pilgrim’s Regress”. These books are not as light-hearted as the Narnia books. It will require some discipline to get through, especially the last two.

I might also recommend, if you want more than light reading, Francis Schaeffer’s book, “Whatever Happened to the Human Race?”

“If man is not made in the image of God, nothing then stands in the way of inhumanity. There is no good reason why mankind should be perceived as special. Human life is cheapened. We can see this in many of the major issues being debated in our society today: abortion, infanticide, euthanasia, the increase of child abuse and violence of all kinds, pornography … , the routine torture of political prisoners in many parts of the world, the crime explosion, and the random violence which surrounds us.”

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

Thanks for the recommended reading, Setnaffa.
I’ll get Whatever Happened to the Human Race? We’re in the middle of a move now and I could use some good reading material. 🙂
I need to read the Great Divorce again. Read the Screwtape Letters recently.

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