Tweet of the Day: Does ROK Military Have the Will to Defend?

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J6Junkie
J6Junkie
6 years ago

NCOs don’t need to worry about being assassinated. They’ll just goose step down with the conscripts and the Parasite Army.

setnaffa
6 years ago

From Wikipedia:

The Chinese leadership, in a critique of the [Battle of Chipyong-ni], stated that

In the conduct of the….battle command, we have underestimated the enemy. In view of their past characteristics in battle, we expected the enemy to flee at Chipyong-ni, after the enemy at Hoengsong was annihilated.

At Chipyong-ni, Freeman had about 2,500 soldier, all American or French. The battle was won by strong unit cohesion and guts.

At Hoengsong , there were about 9,400 South Korean and 1,500 US support troop casualties (primarily KIA and captured). The battle was lost because the Koreans ran. The Americans, in the rear areas, were overrun by Chinese troops.

I’m not going to say I would have been braver than those who ran; but they all essentially died because they ran. Staying to fight can be a lifesaver.

Flyingsword
Flyingsword
6 years ago

No, half the active military will desert and probably 90% of reservist called up won’t report. Also, unions workers, under the direction of their nK handlers, won’t work the docks, drive trains or trucks; shutting down any RSOI ops by the US.

Rascal1212
Rascal1212
6 years ago

FS
Pretty severe criticism. Would like to think it won’t be that bad. I worked at CFC and have a low opinion of the ROK military and SK men.

2ID Doc
2ID Doc
6 years ago

Obviously these conscripts never gave serious thought to what happens when the balloon does go up. They think it’s a video game, shoot the NCOs and calmly board a train (running right in schedule in a war) and head home to have a few drinks with your buddies at the local bar that will have the latest football match playing and drinks flowing. What planet are these children from? I realize perhaps physical overrides mental in the ROK military but I seem to understand in war nearly all the rules get tossed out, you fall back on your training, watch everything and trust only those you know are trustable.

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

When the Iraqi tanks arrived in Kuwait, they went up to the military gate and said they were there for an exercise. The Kuwaiti military opened the gates and let them in. The Iraqi military hung the base commander up over the gate. His body was there until US forces came to liberate them. The Kuwaiti air force departed well before the tanks came rolling in.

J6Junkie
J6Junkie
6 years ago

I think the Korean MPs would believe that excuse from the Parasite people.

Flyingsword
Flyingsword
6 years ago

Rascal, just my on the ground evaluation of the situation.

setnaffa
6 years ago

At the beginning of the “Yook Eee Oh” (6/25/1950) war, the ROK troops were ill-equipped to deal with Soviet tanks (even Task Force Smith had woefully obsolete anti-tank weapons). There were brave and resourceful ROK troops; but running up to tanks with mortar shells and IEDs is not a a strategy for success. Most of these brave patriots died very quickly.

With many of their NCOs and Engineers expended in the early days of the war, the rest of the ROK army almost melted away, essentially needing to regroup near Pusan. Note this is not an indictment of Korean manhood but poor training and inadequate leadership.

I have no doubt that the average ROK soldier could take me apart even were I at my prime age, condition, and training. That’s completely different than surviving, resisting, and turning back a surprise attack on their position by well-trained enemy units deploying infantry, tanks, artillery, and air assets. And while I do not know anyone in the Korean military, most of the young Korean men I’ve seen in Seoul and Pyeongtaek appear too soft and effeminate to be able to resist a determined nork invasion.

I’m hoping that’s just my poor eyesight and poor ability to judge character. However, my reading of Korean History, from Shilla onwards leads me to believe there are always men of strength and they are never in positions of authority until the place has burned down, and many are expended in the process of retaking what should never have been lost. Like Yi Sun-Sin, for example.

Come on, South Korea!! Show me that I’m wrong!! I’m okay with being proven completely mistaken and having to apologize…

MTB Rider
6 years ago

Hard times create strong men,
Strong men create good times,
Good times create weak men,
Weak men create hard times.

Moon Pie is the end result of the Good Times. We’re about to enter the next Hard Time cycle…

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