We are surrounded by so many blessings we tend to take them for granted.
As we approach Christmas, let us make sure the people we love know it. And let us approach life gratefully.
Can we find things to complain about? Certainly. But let us refuse to live in that negative place and choose to look for the good, the true, and the joyful things.
Whether you celebrate it the same as my family does, we wish you a Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year. 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
TLDR: Muslims disrupt Australian Christmas parade and get their àsses thoroughly beaten by Krampus’ armed with sticks.
liz
4 years ago
Muslims disrupt Australian Christmas parade and get their àsses thoroughly beaten by Krampus’ armed with sticks.
Think that’s in Austria, but it still warms my heart with Christmas cheer!
setnaffa
4 years ago
Given that people who disrupt parades (pretty much any parades) should be “horse-whipped, tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail”, what strikes me about this (pun intended) is that there are still men in Australia.
Unlike most of Western Europe. 🙁 🙁 🙁
It’s interesting that CH knows so much about the Krampus. Not interesting enough to want to know why; but interesting all the same. (In Central European folklore, Krampus is a horned, anthropomorphic figure described as “half-goat, half-demon”, who, during the Christmas season, punishes children who have misbehaved.)
ChickenHead
4 years ago
Hmmm. The original link said Australian. The video says Austrian. I didn’t pay attention to detail.
I guess one has to wonder what Krampuses would be doing in Australia.
Perhaps an invasive species?
setnaffa o'kim
4 years ago
The Irish are everywhere, it’s said…
setnaffa
4 years ago
Upon further review from the replay official, there is debate about whether it is Austrian Krampus vs. Muslims or Italian Krampus vs. People who taunted them and tried to remove their masks.
I think the rule ought to be to avoid interrupting parades that include furries dressed as half goat/haldf demon participation.
CH, that an interesting article at an interesting site. Of course, the commonsense recommendations made by the author will not be implemented; but if we court-martialed the COs of major units and bases where these events occurred against disarmed GIs, it would change.
Plenty of precedent. Look up what happened to Admiral Kimmel and General Short.
That was an interesting article ChickenHead, thanks for sharing. I had one military course with a Saudi before and he did not talk about anything improper. He was just lazy in class and did get upset when us Americans refused to drive him around anymore once we learned he had his own car provided to him. He was just used to be chauffeured. Just like the article mentioned the best students I have seen in military classes are from Singapore. They are smart, highly motivated, and just good people.
As far as arming conceal carry licensed officers and NCOs on base, I just don’t see it happening unless directed from the Chief of Staff of each service. I think base commanders would be more concerned about negligent discharges killing people than the remote possibility of Saudi terrorists attacking the base. It would be easier to just boot the Saudis from US military training.
liz
4 years ago
That was a good read, CH.
My spouse has flown with Saudis in the past.
Never had a good word to say about the experience (if one could call it that, “how do they fly?” “Hard to say, they all went home without fighting at all, to avoid losing”)
Our last base allowed concealed carry. Commanders are often afraid to do so because they’re responsible if anything goes wrong with the policy (status quo is, by contrast, safer for the commander’s career).
Thank God Trump is in office.
liz
4 years ago
if we court-martialed the COs of major units and bases where these events occurred against disarmed GIs, it would change.
It isn’t easy to have concealed carry on base. There’s a lot of legal red tape, and it requires the consent of the state governor. It’s not as simple as just declaring, “hey everyone, I’m the boss and I say you can carry now!”
liz
4 years ago
Just to add, It’s kind of like saying we should fire the postmaster general if anyone goes postal at the post office because you can’t carry a firearm in there. It’s federal policy, not office policy.
liz
4 years ago
Sorry for the multiple post, the way our base (and the previous one) did it required governor approval, plus a lot of legal work. Concealed carry on the property of the installation (or in one’s car) was permitted (we had an opt out, rather than an opt in policy…everyone was permitted to carry unless the commander had a compelling reason not to let them). Inside federal buildings they could not personally carry (again, that’s a federal law…not sure even the Chief of Staff could change that), but personal firearms could be close and available if needed.
setnaffa
4 years ago
Allowing concealed carry to State-licensed personnel is different than requiring gate guards and others “on duty” carrying weapons.
The other option is hiring armed guards, which many corpirations do.
And Liz, with all due respect, the military CO is responsible for his troops (and sailors, marines, or airmen) in a vastly different way than the Postmaster General, or even local or regional leaders of that non-military organization.
However, with no one held responsible, we can guarantee nothing will be done. Which may impact moral and recruitment in time of war, one of the sections in 18 US Code Chapter 115.
Frankly, as sad as I am about the dead and wounded, I am more angry at the leadership failure.
But, like General Short, who ordered the aircraft out of revetments into the center of the airfields, fearing sabotage more than a Japanese attack, the current “leaders” are ignoring current events and relying on their prejudice.
May God save our military from any more of these so-called “leaders” failing to remove threats.
Buy me a cup of coffee and I’ll tell you what I really think.
liz
4 years ago
I’m talking about laws for concealed carry in federal buildings, Setnaffa.
In that respect the post office and other federal buildings are the same.
ChickenHead
4 years ago
Question:
Why do military personnel need to carry a private concealed weapon? Why is this even a conversation?
Just select a few high-speed people from every area on the installation, send them through some training, and give them the high-status duty of wearing a loaded pistol around all day.
Can we trust servicemembers to be armed in peace as well as war?
Smokes
4 years ago
You can’t have SM’es all running around armed with personal weapons. How will the military continue to keep up the environment of treating everyone like shit? Jokes aside, active duty was the most disgruntled workplace I’ve ever been in.
liz
4 years ago
Our last assignment had a Unit Martial program (each unit selected candidates), where they did that, CH. It required a lot of training and wasn’t easy, but they did it (as much as was feasible).
ChickenHead
4 years ago
I would suggest servicemembers mastering how to identify and neutralize hostile combatants in an increasingly battlefield-reflecting urban environment is actually a pretty valid military skill with secondary benefits of knowledge transfer and cultural diffusion into civilian space.
Sure, it might not be as important as Women Are People, LGBTQ+ Appreciation, and Muslims Are Just Misunderstood training which protects the delicate feelings of our most vulnerable instead of the lives of those who knew what they signed up for…
…but it seems the military doesn’t loose when it focuses on military things now and then.
liz
4 years ago
Military members, by and large, are far more thoroughly screened than other folks who are permitted to carry firearms. Laws don’t always make sense, but that doesn’t ipso facto mean the commanders of installations can ignore those laws. All they can do is try to work around them.
ChickenHead
4 years ago
I am confused.
Are you saying a military member cannot be issued a military firearm by the military while in military uniform on a military base?
Military.
liz
4 years ago
CH, they can, but procedurally it is difficult. I don’t know why, I only know it was difficult to the point they went to trying the unit martial program (and having a vault in each building). The weapons have to be secured, they have to have a person manning the armory at all times and there are procedures for checking out weapons and so forth. Again, I don’t know the specifics. I do know an installation commander in Texas got some bad information and thought it was okay for military service members to carry inside buildings, and he got into a lot of trouble for it. It would be best if the installations were exempt from the laws against carrying inside federal buildings. Then, no one knows who is carrying…and the assumption for the would be attacker is that anyone might be.
ChickenHead
4 years ago
Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, rule number 4…
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
setnaffa
4 years ago
Look up the US casualties of the Pearl Harbor (1941) attack where we had >100 fighter aircraft disarmed, without fuel, sitting in pretty rows in the middle of the airfields.
Look at what happened at Savo Island in 1942 where we had US warships at Condition Two in a warzone, at night, in an area known to be subject to an imminent Japanese attack.
Do we need to go over the dozens of similar incidents where deskbound Admiral Arsehat or General Douchecanoe decided human nature had changed and we no longer had to guard our military from our enemies?
Perhaps the DoD thinks the dead at Pensacola are worth the price to keep from having to fight bureaucracy? Perhaps they can tell that to the mothers of the dead? Perhaps the wounded can just “rub some dirt on it” and “cowboy up”?
Are we thankful enough? No, not really.
We are surrounded by so many blessings we tend to take them for granted.
As we approach Christmas, let us make sure the people we love know it. And let us approach life gratefully.
Can we find things to complain about? Certainly. But let us refuse to live in that negative place and choose to look for the good, the true, and the joyful things.
Whether you celebrate it the same as my family does, we wish you a Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year. 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
Environmental survey on THAAD base still pending
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20191206008100325
Sound like another limbo project that get more use as a bargaining chip than a defense measure. Oh well…
Converting a Cold War remnant into a symbol of peace and reconciliation
http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_northkorea/919123.html
Well at least Cp Greaves is being used for something unlike some of the others that are just sitting there being overtaken by the foliage. 😎
Which way will Moon lean?
http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=270128
The ROK gets back 4 bases from USFK. I’m sure all will become expensive apartment buildings or Moon crony legacy projects.
http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=280139
I thought the Chinese were the masters of dealing with Muslim shenanigans.
It turns out the Australian Krampus, like everything else in Australia, is capable of dealing pain.
And they are doing it to deserving Muslims.
https://youtu.be/xsDmlNMUC9g
TLDR: Muslims disrupt Australian Christmas parade and get their àsses thoroughly beaten by Krampus’ armed with sticks.
Muslims disrupt Australian Christmas parade and get their àsses thoroughly beaten by Krampus’ armed with sticks.
Think that’s in Austria, but it still warms my heart with Christmas cheer!
Given that people who disrupt parades (pretty much any parades) should be “horse-whipped, tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail”, what strikes me about this (pun intended) is that there are still men in Australia.
Unlike most of Western Europe. 🙁 🙁 🙁
It’s interesting that CH knows so much about the Krampus. Not interesting enough to want to know why; but interesting all the same. (In Central European folklore, Krampus is a horned, anthropomorphic figure described as “half-goat, half-demon”, who, during the Christmas season, punishes children who have misbehaved.)
Hmmm. The original link said Australian. The video says Austrian. I didn’t pay attention to detail.
I guess one has to wonder what Krampuses would be doing in Australia.
Perhaps an invasive species?
The Irish are everywhere, it’s said…
Upon further review from the replay official, there is debate about whether it is Austrian Krampus vs. Muslims or Italian Krampus vs. People who taunted them and tried to remove their masks.
I think the rule ought to be to avoid interrupting parades that include furries dressed as half goat/haldf demon participation.
This is worth a read…
https://dbdailyupdate.com/index.php/2019/12/09/what-really-happened-at-nas-pensacola-and-why/
CH, that an interesting article at an interesting site. Of course, the commonsense recommendations made by the author will not be implemented; but if we court-martialed the COs of major units and bases where these events occurred against disarmed GIs, it would change.
Plenty of precedent. Look up what happened to Admiral Kimmel and General Short.
That was an interesting article ChickenHead, thanks for sharing. I had one military course with a Saudi before and he did not talk about anything improper. He was just lazy in class and did get upset when us Americans refused to drive him around anymore once we learned he had his own car provided to him. He was just used to be chauffeured. Just like the article mentioned the best students I have seen in military classes are from Singapore. They are smart, highly motivated, and just good people.
As far as arming conceal carry licensed officers and NCOs on base, I just don’t see it happening unless directed from the Chief of Staff of each service. I think base commanders would be more concerned about negligent discharges killing people than the remote possibility of Saudi terrorists attacking the base. It would be easier to just boot the Saudis from US military training.
That was a good read, CH.
My spouse has flown with Saudis in the past.
Never had a good word to say about the experience (if one could call it that, “how do they fly?” “Hard to say, they all went home without fighting at all, to avoid losing”)
Our last base allowed concealed carry. Commanders are often afraid to do so because they’re responsible if anything goes wrong with the policy (status quo is, by contrast, safer for the commander’s career).
Thank God Trump is in office.
if we court-martialed the COs of major units and bases where these events occurred against disarmed GIs, it would change.
It isn’t easy to have concealed carry on base. There’s a lot of legal red tape, and it requires the consent of the state governor. It’s not as simple as just declaring, “hey everyone, I’m the boss and I say you can carry now!”
Just to add, It’s kind of like saying we should fire the postmaster general if anyone goes postal at the post office because you can’t carry a firearm in there. It’s federal policy, not office policy.
Sorry for the multiple post, the way our base (and the previous one) did it required governor approval, plus a lot of legal work. Concealed carry on the property of the installation (or in one’s car) was permitted (we had an opt out, rather than an opt in policy…everyone was permitted to carry unless the commander had a compelling reason not to let them). Inside federal buildings they could not personally carry (again, that’s a federal law…not sure even the Chief of Staff could change that), but personal firearms could be close and available if needed.
Allowing concealed carry to State-licensed personnel is different than requiring gate guards and others “on duty” carrying weapons.
The other option is hiring armed guards, which many corpirations do.
And Liz, with all due respect, the military CO is responsible for his troops (and sailors, marines, or airmen) in a vastly different way than the Postmaster General, or even local or regional leaders of that non-military organization.
However, with no one held responsible, we can guarantee nothing will be done. Which may impact moral and recruitment in time of war, one of the sections in 18 US Code Chapter 115.
Frankly, as sad as I am about the dead and wounded, I am more angry at the leadership failure.
But, like General Short, who ordered the aircraft out of revetments into the center of the airfields, fearing sabotage more than a Japanese attack, the current “leaders” are ignoring current events and relying on their prejudice.
May God save our military from any more of these so-called “leaders” failing to remove threats.
Buy me a cup of coffee and I’ll tell you what I really think.
I’m talking about laws for concealed carry in federal buildings, Setnaffa.
In that respect the post office and other federal buildings are the same.
Question:
Why do military personnel need to carry a private concealed weapon? Why is this even a conversation?
Just select a few high-speed people from every area on the installation, send them through some training, and give them the high-status duty of wearing a loaded pistol around all day.
Can we trust servicemembers to be armed in peace as well as war?
You can’t have SM’es all running around armed with personal weapons. How will the military continue to keep up the environment of treating everyone like shit? Jokes aside, active duty was the most disgruntled workplace I’ve ever been in.
Our last assignment had a Unit Martial program (each unit selected candidates), where they did that, CH. It required a lot of training and wasn’t easy, but they did it (as much as was feasible).
I would suggest servicemembers mastering how to identify and neutralize hostile combatants in an increasingly battlefield-reflecting urban environment is actually a pretty valid military skill with secondary benefits of knowledge transfer and cultural diffusion into civilian space.
Sure, it might not be as important as Women Are People, LGBTQ+ Appreciation, and Muslims Are Just Misunderstood training which protects the delicate feelings of our most vulnerable instead of the lives of those who knew what they signed up for…
…but it seems the military doesn’t loose when it focuses on military things now and then.
Military members, by and large, are far more thoroughly screened than other folks who are permitted to carry firearms. Laws don’t always make sense, but that doesn’t ipso facto mean the commanders of installations can ignore those laws. All they can do is try to work around them.
I am confused.
Are you saying a military member cannot be issued a military firearm by the military while in military uniform on a military base?
Military.
CH, they can, but procedurally it is difficult. I don’t know why, I only know it was difficult to the point they went to trying the unit martial program (and having a vault in each building). The weapons have to be secured, they have to have a person manning the armory at all times and there are procedures for checking out weapons and so forth. Again, I don’t know the specifics. I do know an installation commander in Texas got some bad information and thought it was okay for military service members to carry inside buildings, and he got into a lot of trouble for it. It would be best if the installations were exempt from the laws against carrying inside federal buildings. Then, no one knows who is carrying…and the assumption for the would be attacker is that anyone might be.
Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, rule number 4…
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
Look up the US casualties of the Pearl Harbor (1941) attack where we had >100 fighter aircraft disarmed, without fuel, sitting in pretty rows in the middle of the airfields.
Look at what happened at Savo Island in 1942 where we had US warships at Condition Two in a warzone, at night, in an area known to be subject to an imminent Japanese attack.
Do we need to go over the dozens of similar incidents where deskbound Admiral Arsehat or General Douchecanoe decided human nature had changed and we no longer had to guard our military from our enemies?
Perhaps the DoD thinks the dead at Pensacola are worth the price to keep from having to fight bureaucracy? Perhaps they can tell that to the mothers of the dead? Perhaps the wounded can just “rub some dirt on it” and “cowboy up”?