Army Secretary Says He is Open to Renaming Military Bases Named After Confederates
It never made much sense to me to have U.S. military bases named after Confederates other than an olive branch towards southerners that live in those states:
Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy is open to starting a conversation about changing the names of 10 of the service’s posts named for prominent Confederates, an Army officials said Monday.
McCarthy wants to have a “bipartisan discussion” about the controversial issue, the official said. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, did not provide further details, including what sparked McCarthy’s willingness to discuss the topic.
It marks a substantial change in the Army’s position on the naming of the 10 Army posts: Camp Beauregard and Fort Polk in Louisiana; Fort Benning and Fort Gordon in Georgia; Fort Bragg in North Carolina; Fort A.P. Hill, Fort Lee and Fort Pickett in Virginia; Fort Rucker in Alabama, and Fort Hood in Texas.
Stars & Stripes
You can read more at the link, but renaming these bases can become a slippery slope. What happens when Navajos, Apaches, and Blackfeet demand that Ft. Carson be renamed because Kit Carson brutally defeated and subjugated them? Or the Nez Perce demanding that Ft. Lewis be renamed since Meriwether Lewis was an explorer that opened the door to their later subjugation by the U.S. government?
I could probably find more examples of bases named after people who did not have perfect backgrounds. The Army just needs to be careful on this issue or next thing you know every base will need to be renamed because of demands from various activist groups.
sec def just announced he is willing to negotiate with terrorist groups.
I can’t ever imagine changing something like Bragg or Benning. They’re institutions for generations of soldiers. Please don’t let it become Fort SJW or something stupid like that.
Calling it Benning, honoring a traitor, is kind of stupid to begin with. How about naming the place after a US Army hero instead?
Don’t worry, johnhenry, it appears the decision has been made to rename it Fort Bix Nood.
This is another of many recent moves to remove symbols of our history. Why are people scared of a name? Why are people scared of Robert E. Lee’s statue? What’s next? Destroy the Washington Monument, the Jefferson Memorial and Mount Rushmore!
rascal, yes that is what the terrorists are demanding
Given the vast majority of “Americans” like johnhenry have no concept about what caused the Civil War (slavery was only a thing after Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation), it’s not surprising that people who are willing to burn down their own neighborhoods and spread the Wuhan Lung Aids are calling other people traitors.
There was a time in this country that people felt loyalty to the State they lived in more than to the US as a whole. Read the Federalist Papers and become better educated.
Or carry on being a useful idiot for those who would take away your freedoms. Knee-jerk reactions to political events are exactly what they want.
There are about 9 or 10 other presidents that owened slaves. I wonder how many cities, schools, and roads the terrorists want.
Next time the left will want to hang people for the sins of our forefathers for shit that
or did not happen over 155 years ago. Talking about renaming Fort Hood, I met MSG Benavides about 30 years at a book signing at Fort Bliss. Needless to say a very unfriendly and gruff SOB, so I did not buy his book! Having Fort Hood named
after him might be fitting. Him and Fort Hood would compliment each other well!
Here are the bases named after loser traitors:
Fort Lee
Fort Hood
Fort Benning
Fort Gordon
Fort Bragg
Fort Polk
Fort Pickett
Fort A.P. Hill
Fort Rucker
Camp Beauregard
And nobody’s afraid of names nor are they afraid of part of our history. What they are protesting is the glorification of and adulation proffered to those traitors.
Why didn’t President Obama rename them? Because it’s a ridiculous exercise in flummery.
This ain’t a Left thing, or a SJW thing, it’s a smart thing. Should’ve been done ages ago, along with everything else named after people. Stop fucking naming shit after people.
This is America, not England or Liechtenstein. We succeeded because we cast off the old ways of Europe for better things. We don’t have royalty here. When something remarkable happens worth honoring, memorializing, etc. don’t do so in a way that glorifies an/the individual, it should be done in a way to bring further recognition to the thing itself.
Remember Ungh? The guy who figured out how to light fires back in the whatever age? No, but you sure know of the event and it’s importance. How about Bungina who capitalized on Bung’s discovery and figured out cooking meat was a million times better than chomping it raw? These people are lost forever, but the event is remembered.
If you have to depict a human make it a faceless person, the person’s not what’s important, the thing that happened was. This would include to stop the practice of naming shit after Martin Luther King Jr.; the Civil Rights Movement was infinitely bigger than King was not to mention it wasn’t just King otherwise it’d not been the Civil Rights movement but just some guy walking down the street by himself making a ton of noise that no one listened to.
Rename all the shit that’s named after real people. Take the fucking faces off all the money (put eagles or some shit on em, we’ll call em Baldy Bucks, it’ll be great), Get rid of all the status of any actual people. Truly great people wouldn’t want that anyway, they’d want the ideal or event remembered above them. Mount Rushmore’s a bigger issue since no one’s invented a terrain gun or something.. stop maintaining it and let the wind whip those faces off the side.
Ditching this terrible practice of naming shit after people would definitely be a step in making America great (again? who knows..).
Smokes, we disagree.
However, strangely, I don’t feel the need to loot and burn all the stores in my neighborhood. Even though someone, somewhere, has more property than me,
Imagine that.
Glad the fight is over military base names that only a minuscule fraction of black people know had anything to do with the Confederacy.
We really need to tackle this issue with debate and protest… and LOTS more publicity.
That will keep everyone’s focus away from ~70% black single parent households, disproportionate black and black-on-black crime, cultural rejection of “white” education, and all those other tricks racists use to keep the black community down.
If those issues were fixed, some might stray from the Democrat Plantation of Constant Outrage and Dependence…
…and might even vote Republican.
BTW, Yale and Brown universities were founded by, funded by, and named after actual slave traders. The guys who owned the ships that brought unwilling people ro America and sold them as though they were less than human.
But I don’t hear anyone going after them. Just the military. The guys who did what the graduates from Yale ordered them to do.
It’s interesting to me that their philosophical descendants still push ideas like easier grading, Affirmative Action, and reparations as though African Americans are less capable of competing than anyone else.
Racism is not showing a confederate flag (though I agree it’s worse than impolite to wave around). Really, that’s just the political cersion of “pull my finger”.
Racism is thinking “those people” (whoever you hate) are not able to compete in spite of many decades of evidence to the contrary. It works equally well (or poorly) against people of every skin tone, national origin, religion, veteran atatus, and sexual preference. And though technically people typically limit race to variations of suntan, that’s not quite right. It’s about who you love and hate.
If you still think your “race” is better than someone else’s, you’re a dummy. We’re all just Mark I/Mod 0 human beings.
Meanwhile, things are going swimmingly in the socialist paradise of CHAZ,,,
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