ROK Drop Open Thread – December 03, 2021

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setnaffa
setnaffa
2 years ago

It has been said that, to know who rules you, look for those who are not allowed to be criticized…

I am pretty certain the fact they chose Greek latter ‘Omicron’ vs Greek letter “Xi” to designate the allegedly latest strain of COVID-19 is the most random thing in the world…

But a bit interesting….

liz
liz
2 years ago

I suspect they were noodling on it for a while.
“This virus is going to have a lot of mutations…what do we do when it gets to Xi?”
They’ll probably just start numbering now.
Omnicron 2,3,4, ect.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
2 years ago

One demerit, Liz, for calling it Omnicron when it is Omicron.

An easy way to remember that is Omega and Omicron.

As in O-mega and O-micron… as in Big O and Little O.

That might also give everyone a hint on how to pronounce it… so you can show off your ancient Greek pronunciation skills instead of saying O-me-cron like some hick.

setnaffa
setnaffa
2 years ago

OTOH, CH, she might have been making a subtle joke.

“Omni-” implies all, or of all things.

“cron” implies time, as it rhymes with the “chron” in chronometer.

Thus, the “Omnicron Variant” might be a pseudoscience appellation for all of them for all time, just numbered to keep the rubes’ panic at a slow boil…

Of course, I might be reading a bit too much into this.

setnaffa
setnaffa
2 years ago

Now, let us have a moment of silence for Chris Cuomo’s career at CNN.

johnhenry
johnhenry
2 years ago

Skipping those two Greek letters had nothing to do with the Chinese dictator “ruling the world” (or, at least, the medical world). ‘Nu’ could obviously be heard as ‘new’, and ‘Xi’, of course, is a quite common Chinese surname. The folks naming the variants are just following their field’s protocols.

setnaffa
setnaffa
2 years ago

Absolutely, johnhenry. Absolutely. I mean, they’ve done nothing sketchy in thebpast regarding the origin of the current virus. Never lied repeatedly about the efficacy of mRNA vaccines, fitty-cent paper masks and 15-day lockdowns.

Of course we should believe them.

And the following is just misinformation, so be sure not to read it:

[The vaccines are m]ore sketchy than you know. Because everyone’s body has a limited ability to produce antibodies, and the antibodies produced by the vaccine are to the spike proteins, which are not the really useful antibodies. You want the antibodies to the nucleocapsids.
By constantly hitting people with the spike protein vaxes, the “scientists” are actually inhibiting the development of the nucleocapsid antibodies, and if you do it too much, the body will try to produce down-regulation of the antibodies as a protective measure.

The nucleocapsid proteins don’t mutate much, so they will provide protection against future variants. And this is why 20 to nearly 50% of blood samples tested across the world showed neutralizing antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, even though those blood samples were collected before SARS-CoV-2 had been in the population. The antibodies formed from prior coronavirus infections were highly correlated with low incidence of symptomatic disease and severe disease. This is why the Israeli data showed much higher protection from prior infection than from vaccination. This is why Delta was so bad in Israel.

The UK authorities have already noted lower levels of nucleocapsid antibodies among those infected after vaccination (they call them “N” and “S”). This is not a good result.

The real battle to protect the patient against serious Covid occurs when the body detects infected cells and kills them off. Those cells are pumping out thousands of viral copies, so every infected cell the body kills has a hugely more protective effect than killing off one of the virons released into the bloodstream. It’s the difference between shooting at oncoming infantry waves with hundreds of machine guns versus twenty Colt revolvers. And (this is important!) the more vulnerable the person is to serious disease, the more they need the N antibodies rather than what they get in the vaxes. Because when you are older your body just can’t produce and circulate the massive number of antibodies needed to knock these virons out one by one. You need to kill the factories.

Fauci is a blithering idiot, in scientific terms. But he’s going to be an incredibly wealthy blithering idiot, and the more his advice is followed, the richer he is going to be. Frankly, I don’t think it’s worth it.

Everything in life has side-effects. Everything has a cost. Make sure you get the best advice possible and follow it.

setnaffa
setnaffa
2 years ago

Time to lighten the mood:

A man and a woman had been married for more than 60 years. They had shared everything. They had kept no secrets from each other except that the little old woman had a shoe box in the top of her closet that she had cautioned her husband never to open or ask her about.

For all of these years, he had never thought about the box, but one day the little old woman got very sick and the doctor said she would not recover. In trying to sort out their affairs, the little old man took down the shoe box and took it to his wife’s bedside.

She agreed that it was time that he should know what was in the box. When he opened it, he found two crocheted dolls and a stack of money totaling $95,000. He asked her about the contents.

“When we were to be married,” she said, “my grandmother told me the secret of a happy marriage was to never argue. She told me that if I ever got angry with you, I should just keep quiet and crochet a doll.”

The little old man was so moved; he had to fight back tears. Only two precious dolls were in the box. She had only been angry with him two times in all those years of living and loving. He almost burst with happiness.

“Honey,” he said “that explains the doll, but what about all of this money? Where did it come from?”

“Oh, that?” she said. “That’s the money I made from selling the dolls.”

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
2 years ago

Johnhenry, you really are a shameless shill.

Korean Man
Korean Man
2 years ago
liz
liz
2 years ago

Thanks, setnaffa but the misspelling was unintentional.
If it had been intentional I would’ve used Omnicon.

setnaffa
setnaffa
2 years ago

That’s even better! I think I’m going to use that…

setnaffa
setnaffa
2 years ago

In October 2020, a security researcher published a technique for scraping large volumes of data from Gravatar, the service for providing globally unique avatars . 167 million names, usernames and MD5 hashes of email addresses used to reference users’ avatars were subsequently scraped and distributed within the hacking community. 114 million of the MD5 hashes were cracked and distributed alongside the source hash, thus disclosing the original email address and accompanying data.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
2 years ago

Setnaffa… perhaps before your time, but there was a discussion here some years back about the security threat posed by Gravitars.

As proof of concept, I decoded them and would randomly use other people’s Gravitars for a while.

Maybe nobody noticed.

setnaffa
setnaffa
2 years ago

Speaking of risks: (see https://www.oann.com/gottlieb-vaccines-against-specific-covid-variants-may-not-work-with-others/)

According to former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb, variant-specific vaccines may not work against new variations of COVID. During an interview Sunday, he said there’s reason to believe developed vaccines won’t work well against the full component of different variants.

“While Omicron may become a threat in U.S., the absolute risk from it right now is very low,” Gottlieb noted. “Many people will still become infected by Delta and may find that delta natural immunity doesn’t protect well against Omicron.”

This comes as Omicron cases have reached at least 15 states in the U.S. and the CDC announced FDA officials are in talks of rushing to authorize a Omicron-specific vaccine.

“So, the question right now is whether or not this is re-infecting people who have Delta immunity and haven’t been vaccinated, or whether it’s going to also infect people who have who have been vaccinated,” Gottlieb stated. “There’s some reason to believe that vaccines could be more protective than just immunity acquired through natural infection from Delta. That’s going to be a critical question we need to figure out in the coming weeks because we have some important policy decisions that we need to make, depending on the answer.”

Meanwhile, CDC Director Rachelle Walensky said conversations remain ongoing and the number of probable Omicron cases will likely rise.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
2 years ago

Setnaffa… what the hell was that word salad?

The reality is everyone infected so far… has been vaccinated.

Not sure what that means.

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