That’s precisely why most of us have nothing but contempt for the Hanky and their pro-parasite camp followers.
Even South Park made fun of “Mr Hanky”…
Those people love communists so much, they should emigrate to a Worker’s Paradise like Norkistan, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, or even Communist China.
I am sure they’d be so much more contented.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
The problem with every communist I ever met is they truly believe after the revolution, they will be going around to communes and yapping the same nonsense they are yapping to me now.
They don’t realize, after the revolution:
– the true revolutionaries are the first to be purged
– there is not much demand for someone to go around talking up communism
– somebody has to pick the turnips… and they had better be able to pick more than they eat
Communism is the future.
When robots do all the jobs and we all live well without much work, when borrowing things is far easier than owning it, when most of our time is spent in a virtual world and we have no need of property… it will essentially be communism.
We can actually have this utopia now!
…if we bring back slavery or use Mexican to their fullest potential.
What? Suddenly the “communists” aren’t so intetested in Real Communism?
setnaffa
1 year ago
Oswald defected to the USSR and instead of being the hero he imagined himself to be, he got an average wife and a job in a TV factory in Minsk.
So he un-defected—and got an even lower-status job in a book warehouse in Dallas…
One only need look to Pol Pot to see how the “useful idiots” are treated. Robert Mugabe did the same to his former allies after he took over in Zimbabwe. The farmers who helped Lenin in the 1917 Revolution were the kulaks sent to death camps in Siberia.
Et cetera, ad nauseum.
But these cretins don’t read history, because it’s always “Year Zero.” It’s never cloudy in their imaginary “Worker’s Paradise.”
The only think I like about communists is how good they are at killing communists.
The people attracted to communism are predators who see it as a tool for personal empowerment and their victims who think the cheese is free in the mousetrap.
Strangely, those who talk the loudest about communism never want to live under vommunism.
They just want ME to live under communism. Their communism.
Korean Man
1 year ago
See, this is the problem with American Right. Everyone is a commie Chinabot if they don’t fall in line with America’s own foreign interests. And America’s best interest is to have a strong and mighty militaristic hawkish Japan to rule the Pacific under the Emperor – as long as they are pro-US and under the US administration sucking their penis.
Smelling blood, after the wounded deer runs for its life, Japan says they are expecting South Korea to give up more to restore ties with Japan.
As in the news clip says, these are what Japan wants a unilateral surrender from Korea and for Korea to give in on all these issues before Japan meets with Korea.
1) Korea to restore GISOMIA, which was stopped after Japan slapped economic sanctions in 2019.
2) Korea to drop opposition to Japan’s move to register the Sado Island mines where thousands of Korean forced laborers died, with UNESCO.
3) Korea to drop opposition to Tokyo Electric dumping Fukushima radiated waters into the Pacific – a move that many people in BOTH Japan and South Korea says will wipe out the fishing industry in both countries due to consumer fears that the fish will be contaminated.
4) Korea to drop the restrictions on importing Japanese fish, produces, and agricultural products from Fukushima region where Japan claims that the foods grown there are all supposedly safe to eat.
5) Korea to negotiate the Dokdo/Takeshima islands with Japan.
Yoon is now on the hot seats with Japan and the US backing them, to give in to all these demands. Japanese and Americans believe that Korea should accept all these Japanese terms, or else face sanctions. Yoon, who is a scared drunk, is now considering the terms, he is in Tokyo, prepared to get on his knees.
Last edited 1 year ago by Korean Man
setnaffa
1 year ago
You’re right, CH, they are either incompetent to even respond honestly to you, or their prison guards won’t let them.
If they were not chinabots, they would already know the difference between conservative, right-wing, Christian, and moderate. But they don’t.
I think they just repeatedly fail the Turing Test; but the technology the CCP nose-picking hillbillies use is so far behind the times it’s embarrassing. Even videogames have better automated responses.
I think GI’s blog deserves a better class of troll. Beijing should immediately apologize.
setnaffa
1 year ago
In other words, when CH makes specific claims, and the responses are not specific, the response is not a response. It’s chaff, and it’s meant to cloud the air.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
You are a bit mistaken, Korea Man.
America’s policies are interesting but they have no relationship with my opinions on communists.
Communists here is defined as anyone who wants frameworks that limit/control my income, behavior, ideology, etc., to benefit the less deserving, or as mostly the case in crony communism, those in power… because that wasn’t REAL communism (because we arent socially or technically ready for Real Communism yet).
While i am a big fan of socialism for things that cannot or should not make a profit, from the fire department to prisons to roads to military to partical accelerators, and I have no regrets in setting aside some of my indirect labor toward this (in the form of taxes), i have no interest to fund commie-inspired social engineering programs, fund the freeloaders, etc.
And those who would use force to redistribute my labor are communists.
Bonus: I work with a few people who grew up in the soviet union. They are financially successful now. Their stories of the hopelessness and lack of care… just doing the minimum to get by… are fascinating.
Except, they have some sort of sick nostalgia for communism… especially when we see some sort of crappy aspect of crony capitalism at work.
I’m like, Dude… you have been out of prison for 6 months. Stop hanging out in the YMCA showers.
Korean Man
1 year ago
Communists here is defined as anyone who wants frameworks that limit/control my income, behavior, ideology, etc., to benefit the less deserving, or as mostly the case in crony communism, those in power…
Then what is the US IRA law?
Chip companies can’t manufacture in other countries other than the US.
Chip companies now must provide free daycare.
Chip companies that make ‘excess’ profit must now give 75% of that to the US government.
Chip companies must reserve chips for the US military first and foremost.
Chip companies must allow the US government to access company trade and technology secrets.
Even China has never instituted such communistic laws. The US is more communist than even China, as its clearly intended to appropriate foreign chip companies by intimidation and blackmail, and then nationalize them. So who’s the real commie?
ChickenHead
1 year ago
Korea Man, I don’t know if that is true.
Back it up with a link.
If it is, keep going. Someone might someday listen.
A year ago, I was a racist for suggesting the covid bat virus came from the lab down the street from the place that reaearched covid bat viruses.
Now, it is accepted.
They are even saying it was intentional.
It was not.
Reality: skills, not credentials, get promotion
Korean Man
1 year ago
This Korean economic professor says this chip act is a “Slave Contract” squarely targeting South Korea because South Korea is the only country that has chip factories in China, with China making up 65% of South Korea’s chip sales versus the United States at only 7%. He lays out the five terms I’ve mentioned above. He says if South Korea gives into US demands, South Korea will not only lose just the chip industry to the US, but also the entire manufacturing sector (everything made in Korea is reliant on chips) will be endangered. He bashes President Yoon who says “South Korea will negotiate with the US on the finer details of the chip acts”. The professor says South Korea is not in a position to ‘negotiate’ such a one-sided contract. He says, South Korea should be vehemently protesting and refusing to go along with such dirty tactics. But this dumb Yoon mule is too stoopid to know what’s really going on.
Korean chip factories in America: bad
Korean chip factories in Korea: not important
Korean chip factories in China: good
Nice try, chinabot.
Pushing policies that are bad for America, bad for Korea, and good for China is exactly what encourages observations of chinabot.
If you were equally whining to pull factories out of China and America and return production, jobs, and exports to Korea, we would have a thoughtful discussion…
…as you would be Korean, looking out for Korean interests.
But, as in most of what you push, I see policies that are against America interests… which is fine if they are equally pro-Korean… but they aren’t.
Korea is never a concern.
China is, though.
When you become equal parts anti-American, anti-Chinese, pro-Korean, you will have my respect for your opinion.
setnaffa
1 year ago
South Korea is not Taiwan. And Taiwan (i.e., Foxconn) has factories in China (though they are building newer factories in India to replace them).
So either the “Korean Economics Professor” lied or was a figment of someone’s imagination.
Good research is rather critical in establishing clear thinking. Having multiple sources of data is good too, as it allows honest fact-checking. This is not allowed, however, in communist or islamist dictatorships.
Note here that no one is telling the chinabots to STFU. The common refrain is “Put up or shut up.” That is, provide evidence from a reliable source unconnected with the CCP (or CPC, or CPPCC, Et cetera).
So far we have a CCP bias and mendacity to back up what the chinabots have been saying.
To paraphrase an old TV TV commercial, “Where’s the beef?”
Or shall we start up again with projection, whataboutism, ad hominem slurs, and changing the subject—-the very hallmarks of CCP internet trolls?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Last edited 1 year ago by setnaffa
Korean Man
1 year ago
I see.
Korean chip factories in America: bad
Korean chip factories in Korea: not important
Korean chip factories in China: good
Nice try, TrumpBot. Korean chip factories in America are bad because the terms demanded by America are ridiculous and they make no economic sense whatsoever. It means Korean chip companies will have to give up 60% of their market share, in return for only 7% market share. That’s because the US is telling SK to stop doing business with China, doesn’t matter what kind of enormous damage that will do to the Korean economy. All of America’s offers of subsidies that come with ridiculous strings attached don’t even begin to make up for the $60 billion already invested in China chip factories, as well as hundreds of billions per year in sales to China. The economic damage to South Korea is enormous. The difference in Korea’s situation between China and the US is this. Korean companies in China invested in China because it made economic sense so it was voluntary. Korean companies in the US invested in the US because of US threats and blackmail, because Korea wanted to avoid US wrath. Intel, tipped off by the US government, selling and unloading their China chip factory to SK Hynix, just days before the US administration announced the chip sanctions against China, is another story of US backstabbing. But of course, Trumpbots wouldn’t know all this nor even care, since none of this is reported in the American media.
Last edited 1 year ago by Korean Man
Korean Person
1 year ago
Korean Man
The Setnaffarians aren‘t interested in the well being of the Korean economy.
Their only concern is Keeping USFK in Korea Forever.
As long as the USFK is still in Korea, it doesn’t matter whether or not the Korean economy is failing and the average Korean is suffering.
Korean Man
1 year ago
Korean Person, the January trade deficit was at a record $14.75 billion for the month, an all-time historic high. Korea doesn’t have the advantage of endlessly printing money to cover for this shortage, as the US does. It’s vital for Korea to keep a good trade balance because consistent trade deficits will lead to a financial crisis. Yoon’s administration is teetering on the brink, and it will fall and end up locked up in prison for treason, if and when South Korea has to go through another IMF bailout circa 1997. The economic failure is the combination of US heavy-handed tactics against South Korea, as well as Yoon’s lack of competence to combat the US moves against South Korea. The next president who comes to power after that will not be such a nice guy, and the people’s mood will be in no mood to continue to cooperate with the US that sacrificed South Korean living standards to save the US from China’s economic threats.
setnaffa says:
South Korea is not Taiwan. And Taiwan (i.e., Foxconn) has factories in China (though they are building newer factories in India to replace them).
Of course, Foxconn builds many things for Apple. Notice that Apple was given ample time to move its operations out of China – Apple can take years to move out of China fully. No such time was given for South Korean companies. Why? Because if they prevent Apple from doing business in China, like they are doing against South Korean companies, then it’s going to hit the US economy hard. These people who are advocating Korean companies to blow themselves up for America’s benefits make me sick.
Last edited 1 year ago by Korean Man
Hot Stuff x
1 year ago
“Then what is the US IRA law?”
I think you meant the CHIPS and Science Act.
That act provides billions of US taxpayer dollars as incentives to the semiconductor industry. Those rules you stated only apply to companies that accept money from the US government. If they take the money, they have to follow the rules. Nobody is forcing anyone to accept subsidies. Don’t like the rules? Don’t take the money.
“Chip companies can’t manufacture in other countries other than the US.”
Not true at all. It’s not a good look for you when your statements can be easily debunked:
“Specifically, the Chips and Science Act bars companies that get federal funding” [emphasis added] “from materially expanding production of chips more advanced than 28-nanometers in China — or a country of concern like Russia — for 10 years….
An exception can be made if the chipmakers concerned are adding production of 28-nanometer semiconductors or older generations to serve the China market predominately or the foreign country of concern involved. Recipients who violate the restrictions and fail to remedy the breach may need to pay back the federal subsidies in full.” [emphasis added]
The article below gives a better idea of the dilemma facing Korean chip manufacturers
The two South Korean chipmakers obtained a one-year waiver to continue to use semiconductor equipment containing American technology in China — one of the targets of Washington’s curbs.
But both companies, which have big production footprints in China for memory chips, see the waiver as potentially giving them a deadline to make changes, rather than a sign that they will continue to benefit. They have started a campaign to assess the business risks of their operations in China, as well as to plan for different scenarios, according to a source close to them.
Any retooling of their Chinese operations would be consequential for both. China accounts for more than 40% of the in-house NAND flash memory chip production at Samsung, the world’s largest maker of such chips. China also produces about 40% of the DRAM chips made by SK Hynix, the world’s number two seller of such chips.
That’s precisely why most of us have nothing but contempt for the Hanky and their pro-parasite camp followers.
Even South Park made fun of “Mr Hanky”…
Those people love communists so much, they should emigrate to a Worker’s Paradise like Norkistan, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, or even Communist China.
I am sure they’d be so much more contented.
The problem with every communist I ever met is they truly believe after the revolution, they will be going around to communes and yapping the same nonsense they are yapping to me now.
They don’t realize, after the revolution:
– the true revolutionaries are the first to be purged
– there is not much demand for someone to go around talking up communism
– somebody has to pick the turnips… and they had better be able to pick more than they eat
Communism is the future.
When robots do all the jobs and we all live well without much work, when borrowing things is far easier than owning it, when most of our time is spent in a virtual world and we have no need of property… it will essentially be communism.
We can actually have this utopia now!
…if we bring back slavery or use Mexican to their fullest potential.
What? Suddenly the “communists” aren’t so intetested in Real Communism?
Oswald defected to the USSR and instead of being the hero he imagined himself to be, he got an average wife and a job in a TV factory in Minsk.
So he un-defected—and got an even lower-status job in a book warehouse in Dallas…
One only need look to Pol Pot to see how the “useful idiots” are treated. Robert Mugabe did the same to his former allies after he took over in Zimbabwe. The farmers who helped Lenin in the 1917 Revolution were the kulaks sent to death camps in Siberia.
Et cetera, ad nauseum.
But these cretins don’t read history, because it’s always “Year Zero.” It’s never cloudy in their imaginary “Worker’s Paradise.”
https://allthatsinteresting.com/soviet-gulag-photos
The only think I like about communists is how good they are at killing communists.
The people attracted to communism are predators who see it as a tool for personal empowerment and their victims who think the cheese is free in the mousetrap.
Strangely, those who talk the loudest about communism never want to live under vommunism.
They just want ME to live under communism. Their communism.
See, this is the problem with American Right. Everyone is a commie Chinabot if they don’t fall in line with America’s own foreign interests. And America’s best interest is to have a strong and mighty militaristic hawkish Japan to rule the Pacific under the Emperor – as long as they are pro-US and under the US administration sucking their penis.
Smelling blood, after the wounded deer runs for its life, Japan says they are expecting South Korea to give up more to restore ties with Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A-qnKH7aAo&ab_channel=MBCNEWS
As in the news clip says, these are what Japan wants a unilateral surrender from Korea and for Korea to give in on all these issues before Japan meets with Korea.
1) Korea to restore GISOMIA, which was stopped after Japan slapped economic sanctions in 2019.
2) Korea to drop opposition to Japan’s move to register the Sado Island mines where thousands of Korean forced laborers died, with UNESCO.
3) Korea to drop opposition to Tokyo Electric dumping Fukushima radiated waters into the Pacific – a move that many people in BOTH Japan and South Korea says will wipe out the fishing industry in both countries due to consumer fears that the fish will be contaminated.
4) Korea to drop the restrictions on importing Japanese fish, produces, and agricultural products from Fukushima region where Japan claims that the foods grown there are all supposedly safe to eat.
5) Korea to negotiate the Dokdo/Takeshima islands with Japan.
Yoon is now on the hot seats with Japan and the US backing them, to give in to all these demands. Japanese and Americans believe that Korea should accept all these Japanese terms, or else face sanctions. Yoon, who is a scared drunk, is now considering the terms, he is in Tokyo, prepared to get on his knees.
You’re right, CH, they are either incompetent to even respond honestly to you, or their prison guards won’t let them.
If they were not chinabots, they would already know the difference between conservative, right-wing, Christian, and moderate. But they don’t.
I think they just repeatedly fail the Turing Test; but the technology the CCP nose-picking hillbillies use is so far behind the times it’s embarrassing. Even videogames have better automated responses.
I think GI’s blog deserves a better class of troll. Beijing should immediately apologize.
In other words, when CH makes specific claims, and the responses are not specific, the response is not a response. It’s chaff, and it’s meant to cloud the air.
You are a bit mistaken, Korea Man.
America’s policies are interesting but they have no relationship with my opinions on communists.
Communists here is defined as anyone who wants frameworks that limit/control my income, behavior, ideology, etc., to benefit the less deserving, or as mostly the case in crony communism, those in power… because that wasn’t REAL communism (because we arent socially or technically ready for Real Communism yet).
While i am a big fan of socialism for things that cannot or should not make a profit, from the fire department to prisons to roads to military to partical accelerators, and I have no regrets in setting aside some of my indirect labor toward this (in the form of taxes), i have no interest to fund commie-inspired social engineering programs, fund the freeloaders, etc.
And those who would use force to redistribute my labor are communists.
Bonus: I work with a few people who grew up in the soviet union. They are financially successful now. Their stories of the hopelessness and lack of care… just doing the minimum to get by… are fascinating.
Except, they have some sort of sick nostalgia for communism… especially when we see some sort of crappy aspect of crony capitalism at work.
I’m like, Dude… you have been out of prison for 6 months. Stop hanging out in the YMCA showers.
Then what is the US IRA law?
Even China has never instituted such communistic laws. The US is more communist than even China, as its clearly intended to appropriate foreign chip companies by intimidation and blackmail, and then nationalize them. So who’s the real commie?
Korea Man, I don’t know if that is true.
Back it up with a link.
If it is, keep going. Someone might someday listen.
A year ago, I was a racist for suggesting the covid bat virus came from the lab down the street from the place that reaearched covid bat viruses.
Now, it is accepted.
They are even saying it was intentional.
It was not.
Reality: skills, not credentials, get promotion
This Korean economic professor says this chip act is a “Slave Contract” squarely targeting South Korea because South Korea is the only country that has chip factories in China, with China making up 65% of South Korea’s chip sales versus the United States at only 7%. He lays out the five terms I’ve mentioned above. He says if South Korea gives into US demands, South Korea will not only lose just the chip industry to the US, but also the entire manufacturing sector (everything made in Korea is reliant on chips) will be endangered. He bashes President Yoon who says “South Korea will negotiate with the US on the finer details of the chip acts”. The professor says South Korea is not in a position to ‘negotiate’ such a one-sided contract. He says, South Korea should be vehemently protesting and refusing to go along with such dirty tactics. But this dumb Yoon mule is too stoopid to know what’s really going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GrhARVKId0&ab_channel=815%EB%A8%B8%EB%8B%88%ED%86%A1
I see.
Korean chip factories in America: bad
Korean chip factories in Korea: not important
Korean chip factories in China: good
Nice try, chinabot.
Pushing policies that are bad for America, bad for Korea, and good for China is exactly what encourages observations of chinabot.
If you were equally whining to pull factories out of China and America and return production, jobs, and exports to Korea, we would have a thoughtful discussion…
…as you would be Korean, looking out for Korean interests.
But, as in most of what you push, I see policies that are against America interests… which is fine if they are equally pro-Korean… but they aren’t.
Korea is never a concern.
China is, though.
When you become equal parts anti-American, anti-Chinese, pro-Korean, you will have my respect for your opinion.
South Korea is not Taiwan. And Taiwan (i.e., Foxconn) has factories in China (though they are building newer factories in India to replace them).
So either the “Korean Economics Professor” lied or was a figment of someone’s imagination.
Good research is rather critical in establishing clear thinking. Having multiple sources of data is good too, as it allows honest fact-checking. This is not allowed, however, in communist or islamist dictatorships.
Note here that no one is telling the chinabots to STFU. The common refrain is “Put up or shut up.” That is, provide evidence from a reliable source unconnected with the CCP (or CPC, or CPPCC, Et cetera).
So far we have a CCP bias and mendacity to back up what the chinabots have been saying.
To paraphrase an old TV TV commercial, “Where’s the beef?”
Or shall we start up again with projection, whataboutism, ad hominem slurs, and changing the subject—-the very hallmarks of CCP internet trolls?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Nice try, TrumpBot. Korean chip factories in America are bad because the terms demanded by America are ridiculous and they make no economic sense whatsoever. It means Korean chip companies will have to give up 60% of their market share, in return for only 7% market share. That’s because the US is telling SK to stop doing business with China, doesn’t matter what kind of enormous damage that will do to the Korean economy. All of America’s offers of subsidies that come with ridiculous strings attached don’t even begin to make up for the $60 billion already invested in China chip factories, as well as hundreds of billions per year in sales to China. The economic damage to South Korea is enormous. The difference in Korea’s situation between China and the US is this. Korean companies in China invested in China because it made economic sense so it was voluntary. Korean companies in the US invested in the US because of US threats and blackmail, because Korea wanted to avoid US wrath. Intel, tipped off by the US government, selling and unloading their China chip factory to SK Hynix, just days before the US administration announced the chip sanctions against China, is another story of US backstabbing. But of course, Trumpbots wouldn’t know all this nor even care, since none of this is reported in the American media.
Korean Man
The Setnaffarians aren‘t interested in the well being of the Korean economy.
Their only concern is Keeping USFK in Korea Forever.
As long as the USFK is still in Korea, it doesn’t matter whether or not the Korean economy is failing and the average Korean is suffering.
Korean Person, the January trade deficit was at a record $14.75 billion for the month, an all-time historic high. Korea doesn’t have the advantage of endlessly printing money to cover for this shortage, as the US does. It’s vital for Korea to keep a good trade balance because consistent trade deficits will lead to a financial crisis. Yoon’s administration is teetering on the brink, and it will fall and end up locked up in prison for treason, if and when South Korea has to go through another IMF bailout circa 1997. The economic failure is the combination of US heavy-handed tactics against South Korea, as well as Yoon’s lack of competence to combat the US moves against South Korea. The next president who comes to power after that will not be such a nice guy, and the people’s mood will be in no mood to continue to cooperate with the US that sacrificed South Korean living standards to save the US from China’s economic threats.
setnaffa says:
Of course, Foxconn builds many things for Apple. Notice that Apple was given ample time to move its operations out of China – Apple can take years to move out of China fully. No such time was given for South Korean companies. Why? Because if they prevent Apple from doing business in China, like they are doing against South Korean companies, then it’s going to hit the US economy hard. These people who are advocating Korean companies to blow themselves up for America’s benefits make me sick.
“Then what is the US IRA law?”
I think you meant the CHIPS and Science Act.
That act provides billions of US taxpayer dollars as incentives to the semiconductor industry. Those rules you stated only apply to companies that accept money from the US government. If they take the money, they have to follow the rules. Nobody is forcing anyone to accept subsidies. Don’t like the rules? Don’t take the money.
Not true at all. It’s not a good look for you when your statements can be easily debunked:
“Specifically, the Chips and Science Act bars companies that get federal funding” [emphasis added] “from materially expanding production of chips more advanced than 28-nanometers in China — or a country of concern like Russia — for 10 years….
An exception can be made if the chipmakers concerned are adding production of 28-nanometer semiconductors or older generations to serve the China market predominately or the foreign country of concern involved. Recipients who violate the restrictions and fail to remedy the breach may need to pay back the federal subsidies in full.” [emphasis added]
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-02/us-to-stop-tsmc-intel-from-adding-advanced-chip-fabs-in-china
The article below gives a better idea of the dilemma facing Korean chip manufacturers
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/Samsung-and-SK-Hynix-face-China-dilemma-from-U.S.-export-controls