If you look at history, you will see many examples of right wingers screwing things up.
Right wing politicians among other things;
– started the Great Depression
– started WW2
– got the US into a disastrous war in Iraq
– helped China become a powerful nation
– ruined the US economy
While left wing politicians;
– got the US out of the Great Depression
– defeated the Axis and finished WW2
– got the US out of an economic disaster after the 2nd Bush administration
The right should do us all a favor, not try to strain their limited brain power and make things worse as a result.
They should stay at home and let the left run things.
It would result in a way better world than the one we have now.
Chickencheeseramen
1 year ago
$hee-it (in my best Texan drawl), now you’re just trollin us, Korean Person. This is base level college frosh liberal claptrap 101. Please, tell your chicom masters to get a little more woke dialogue in the posts. Read Vox or msnbc or daily beast to pick up the finer points of retarded American liberal thought.
Do better odishi!
Chickenhead
1 year ago
Is that an inspirational idea from my ID, “Chickencheeseramen”?
setnaffa
1 year ago
Lazy chinabots abound. It’s why I mock them. They’re dull but annoying.
I would have thought RokDrop deserved at least one with an IQ above room temperature.
This crowd can’t even express dialectical materialism competently…
Maybe they need more remedial work on Xi thoughts. I don’t think they’re even serious about that!
Winnie will be pissed.
Korean Homme
1 year ago
Korean news report: “It’s OK to dump nuke wastes at Fukushima, but totally not OK if the same is proposed in the US – as the US government blocks the dumping at New York – so why the double standard and where did all the lectures of following the science go?”.
Since Google started using their new AI, searches are less useful than out chinabots.
Korean PS
1 year ago
What’s absolutely disgusting about all this is that the government is taking South Korea into austerity measures, including cutting of defense spending, cutting support for defense industries, cutting the nation’s research and development, cutting science funding, eliminating support for youth unemployment, and cutting support for struggling SME businesses. However, they’re spending over $1 billion to ensure the aftermath inspection of Fukushima releases.
Not only that, the government is bringing more slave labor from Southeast Asia to look after the dwindling number of kids, as ‘nannies’.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
“However, they’re spending over $1 billion to ensure the aftermath inspection of Fukushima releases.”
I agree. It is an avoidable expense if the noisy lefties would study some science instead of simply being noisy to hear themselves be self-importantly noisy.
If I was in charge, I would publish a chart with the math done in crayon and tell everyone involved to go sit on a dìck.
But I have chosen the path of competence instead of political speaking, so I am grudgingly tolerated as a necessity kept in the background rather than pushed to the forefront to sugarcoat the bitter truth… or outright lie.
(I occasionally get to speak the truths everyone else is afraid to voice… and it is glorious.)
(Bonus: Someone pointed out that when they notice I become suddenly smooth and political, it is a trap and the situation is dangerous. After consideration, I proudly agree)
Anyway, if you feel the money spent on Fukushima monitoring is a waste, my suggestion is get all your lefty friends to stop whining about it.
And if you believe it is a real issue, the spending is not a waste, is it.
Checkmate.
Korean PS
1 year ago
Checkmate.
Not really. All this spending would not have been necessary at all if the SK government hadn’t encouraged the Japanese government to release the waters.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
“All this spending would not have been necessary at all if the SK government hadn’t encouraged the Japanese government to release the waters.”
I follow Japanese foreign policy very closely and I did notice every policy decision starts with “What does South Korea think we should do?”
Or maybe they don’t and you are a self-important dummy. Hard to know.
Korean Homme
1 year ago
First, they said they would send Korean experts to Fukushima to make sure Japan would follow the steps that IAEA, Japan, and South Korea negotiated for safe discharges. Now that’s out the window. The Korean government now says they have to negotiate with Japan each time they want to check up on Fukushima – already a rollback by Japan, breaking from the international promise they had made with Korea.
So this waste of spending over a billion dollars a year for 30 to 60 years until the reactors are deactivated, is just a total waste of money in my opinion. Once the nuclear pollution levels reach high readings in the South Korean fishing grounds, it’s already too late to do anything. Just write off the fishing industry completely and forget about it. There’s no point in having a system for safety when nobody’s going to be consuming any seafood anyway. That should cost SK, $30 billion a year, or a loss of $50 billion a year if you count the loss of tourism.
I follow Japanese foreign policy very closely and I did notice every policy decision starts with “What does South Korea think we should do?”
I don’t know about you, but the absolutely the wrong signal was to send Japan a secret communication to say, “Hurry up with the water release, before our elections take place!”. The right signal would have been, “if you release those waters, we’re going to completely ban all fish imports from your country and we’re going to fuck you up too, as you are going fuck with us”. That’s what the response should have been, idiot.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
“Once the nuclear pollution levels reach high readings in the South Korean fishing grounds, it’s already too late to do anything”
You are a woman.
That is the only explanation.
Men don’t imagine something, get worked up about the results of their imagination, and make real-world decisions based on their emotional response to their own famtasy.
Women, like you, are champions of this.
As has been offered, do some math and show us the nuclear pollution levels when it hits the Korean fishing grounds.
If it is a problem, I will 100% change my tune and stand with you in protest. I don’t want to eat contaminated seafood either.
Getting me on your side of the issue is just that easy.
If your math works out where the level is the same as background by the time it reaches Korea, then you are just a noisy leftist pawn yelling over imaginary issues because you can’t find any legitimate gripes.
You could also be a rightwing pawn focusing attention on nonsense to keep attention away from issues the public should truly be concerned about.
Neither is a good look for you.
If you refuse to do the math and simply want to keep whining under different names, you aren’t a serious person and you will be treated as such.
So, your choices are grab a calculator and have everone on you side, grab a calculator and ease your mind, or refuse to create any facts and keep emotionally arguing your feels, like a woman.
So what is it going to be?
Korean Homme
1 year ago
If it is a problem, I will 100% change my tune and stand with you in protest.
And that will change what? The whole idea was to prevent this from happening in the first place, to eliminate even a 5% chance that it’s going to be a man-made environmental disaster. Already, Japanese government is breaking its promises to allow Korean inspectors to check up once in a while to keep Japan’s nose clean (a country that has an opaque system of coverups that often surface later and Japanese politicians end bowing and apologizing in front of press conferences then move on to do the same over and over). What good is it for Chickenhead joining the “protest”? Is that going to bring back hundreds of billions of dollars to the economy, while you sneak off to the side?
Korean Homme
1 year ago
South Korean government is now bringing in foreign ‘nannies’ as a pilot program as a test, to supposedly help the birthrate.
Rich city-states like Hong Kong and Singapore are paying these foreign nannies, $600 a month – which is slave labor wages, unprecedented exploitation at galore. However, the birthrates of those two states are not much better than South Korea’s. So how is this going to help South Korea?
The Yoon administration proposed to pay these nannies below minimum wage – which led to a huge outcry, forcing the kkondae president to reverse his sick decision, thankfully. But even if the nannies are paid the proper going market rate for live-in nannies – $3400 a month, how is this going to help the South Korean family where an average individual earns only $3800 a month?
All this is very poorly thought out, and it points to a coming system where the government will turn a blind eye to rampant labor abuses with lower pay rates – it’s a wink from the government to those families, to go ahead and hire these nannies, but you don’t have to follow the pretend rules. What terrible disgusting people, I hope they get judged someday.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
Korean Homme, so you don’t want to do math and see if there is really a problem? You want to keep imagining a problem and then making imaginary complaints all based on maybies.
Got it.
Nothing more to discuss.
Keep living in that own private hell.
setnaffa
1 year ago
If the vast quantities of unprocessed sewage, nuclear waste, non-biodegradable garbage China dumps into the Pacific, and overfishing from those illegal Chinese fishing fleets, don’t disturb chinabot’s fantasy, the pittance supplied by Japan won’t pollute anything at all.
The projection from Beijing’s catemite army is astoundingly tone-deaf.
Korean Person
1 year ago
so you don’t want to do math
It is obvious that your very low brainpower cannot process the math.
So obviously no need to put forward a complex math problem for the Setnaffarians to process.
Korean Person
1 year ago
$hee-it (in my best Texan drawl), now you’re just trollin us
Is that an inspirational idea from my ID
Lazy chinabots abound. It’s why I mock them. They’re dull but annoying.
What can we learn from the statements above?
Chickencheeseramen is another of setnaffa’s sockpuppets
The Setnaffarians don’t know how to counter my statements, so they are reverting to their fallback tactic of calling their opponents, chinabots.
If they cannot counter my statements, that means what I’ve said is true.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
Korea Person, i don’t have to do the math becasue:
– not my problem
– i am not the one trying to get action out of others with imagined fear
One more option. You do the math and it shows to have nothing to worry about.
Do the math or shut up.
Korean Homme
1 year ago
The Yoon government is now dismantling memorials for victims of the Japanese military which are located in parks.
Not surprising at all, considering his family has a long history of collaborating with Japanese colonials, so he now has to take orders from them.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
I guess math doesnt support whining about nuclear Armageddon.
Soooo…
We have moved on to opinions that cannot be disproven by math.
But you still sound like an idiot.
Korean Person
1 year ago
But you still sound like an idiot.
Considering that the Setnaffarian tactic of using the word “chinabot” isn’t working undoubtedly setnaffa has changed his tactics by using the word “idiot.”
It seems that setnaffa is getting desperate.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
You can be both a Chinabot and an idiot.
In this case, your concepts were more aligned with you being an idiot than a Chinabot.
Patriotic Koreans who didn’t learn math in school or who have blind hatered for Japan could say the same things.
When you again spout some destructive nonsense about Korea, I will again call you a Chinabot.
I can call you an idiot as well, if you don’t want to feel left out.
TOK
1 year ago
Patriotic Koreans who didn’t learn math in school or who have blind hatered for Japan could say the same things.
Define “Patriotic Koreans”.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
A patriotic Korean puts the well-being of Korea above all considerations.
A smart patriotic Korean knows the difference between what is important and what is not in the short term and understands cause and effect in the long term.
And they can explain their exact line of reasoning for any decision.
In this case, the usual anti-Korean scold(s) have been given the chance to demonstrate the Japanese water is truly a problem.
They refuse to.
A smart patriotic Korean would care about Korea enough to do the math and post the results… especially if it got others to recognize the problem. A stupid but patriotic Korean would have someone else do the math.
An unpatriotic Korean or a Chinabot would perpetuate ignorance to perpetuatr disorder.
That is what we have here.
TOK
1 year ago
Oh come on CH. who are you trying to kid?
It’s been made obvious by statements made by you and setnaffa that the ideal definition of a “patriotic Korean” is a Korean who won’t criticize and oppose any right wing government, including and not limited to the Yoon government.
Drop the BS for once.
setnaffa
1 year ago
TIK-TOK is Chinese spyware.
So we expect anti-Korean rhetoric from you.
But Yoon is far from right-wing. Unless your center is based on Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, or Winnie.
Korean Person
1 year ago
Drop the BS for once.
TOK,
setnaffa is a right winger.
As such he is too cowardly to admit that he is BSing
TOK
1 year ago
But Yoon is far from right-wing
LOL!
Where does this guy get his info?
setnaffa really needs to do his homework.
Korean Person
1 year ago
TIK-TOK is Chinese spyware.
So we expect anti-Korean rhetoric from you.
So what can we deduce from the statement above;
setnaffa is racist
setnaffa is condescending when it comes to actual Koreans
setnaffa generalizes Koreans and lops them into one category
As such setnaffa is racist
setnaffa doesn’t understand Korean issues so he falls back on his favorite tactic, calling those who do not agree with him “Chinese”
Which bring us to this question.
Wonder if his Chinese masters are happy?
Mǐn Xiù Xī
1 year ago
TIK-TOK is Chinese spyware
“Chinese” again?
You need to get a life, old man.
setnaffa
1 year ago
Lies, slander, and misdirection is all the chinabots are apparently allowed to type.
I hope their parents never find out what a bunch of gormless losers their offspring turned out to be.
Just pathetic.
And China isn’t covering itself in roses with this lot, either. They make the CCP look like losers, too…
Korean Person
1 year ago
Lies, slander, and misdirection is all the chinabots are apparently allowed to type.
Lies : setnaffa tried to spread fake news about vaccines during the pandemic. He also tried to spread fake news in order to discredit the victims of the Itaewon tragedy.
Slander : Calling Koreans who oppose the Yoon government, “chinabots”
Misdirection : Related to the first point “Lies”. setnaffa uses fake news and such to channel the narrative into the free world vs the Chinese theme, when it isn’t anything about China. The guy doesn’t believe in democracy and freedom!
Well, it seems setnaffa just described himself.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
This conversation looks like a dresser…
…with the sock drawer open.
Korean Person
1 year ago
This conversation looks like a dresser… …with the sock drawer open.
That is an interesting statement considering that you are the sockpuppet of setnaffa.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
“That is an interesting statement considering that you are the sockpuppet of setnaffa.”
They are unrelated topics.
Me being a Setnaffa sockpuppet has no relationship to the cluster of anti-Korean chinabot socks.
Butwhatabout is a poor defense.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
TOK, if by “won’t criticize and oppose any right wing government,” you mean, “won’t embrace the values of communists, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists,” you are absolutly right.
Many (but not all) leftist values are destructive to Korea and have no place in the beliefs of a patriotic Korean looking for national success.
For evidence, I submit:
– communist nations
– North Korea
– the website of the WEF
setnaffa
1 year ago
Not just China or Mexico! There are very corrupt people everywhere. Be very careful wherever you travel:
by “won’t criticize and oppose any right wing government,” you mean, “won’t embrace the values of communists, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists,” you are absolutly right.
Many (but not all) leftist values are destructive to Korea and have no place in the beliefs of a patriotic Korean looking for national success.
That’s probably one of the best form of doublespeak I’ve seen so for.
CH puts forward my words which were won’t criticize and oppose any right wing government and turns it into his own definition which is won’t embrace the values of communists, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists.
Which begs the question of what are “values of communism, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists” in the eyes of CH?
It’s obviously whatever CH sees fit.
If for example, some workers protest against what they feel are unfair labor practices initiated by Yoon then CH can define those workers as “communists” or “supporting North Korea” and then you have in his defintion “unpatrotic Koreans” and “chinabots.”
And then he puts forward this statement
Many (but not all) leftist values are destructive to Korea and have no place in the beliefs of a patriotic Korean looking for national success.
Many but not all is misleading because 99.9% can be considered as many but not all.
And 99.9% is almost all.
So if one were to read between the lines, yeah it is obvious that to CH and other members of the right wing cabal here, anyone who opposes Yoon and his policies are “unpatriotic Koreans” and “Chinese/chinabot.”
ChickenHead
1 year ago
“Which begs the question of what are “values of communism, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists” in the eyes of CH?”
Those values speak for themselves.
Look at the history of communism, the conditions of North Korea, and the websites of various globalist organizations.
South Koreans should be especially sensitive to communism, North Korean values, and colonization by non-Koreans with their own agenda.
You either:
– lack the cognative ability to recognize this
– are a non-Korean looking to damage Korea
– are an unpatriotic Korean being used as a tool to damage Korea
If you are stupid, your opinion doesn’t matter. You can be made fun of until you recognize this and shush.
If you are a chinabot (or norkbot), your actions are understandable and there are no personal hard feelings as you look to further your own interestes over those of Korea.
If you are an filthy unpatriotic Korean angry at Korea for whatever reason and looking to damage Korea because of your own personal shortcomings in life, you should be ashamed. Walk immediately to the DMZ, cross over, and experience the equality and good treatment.
TOK, you will get no traction trying to defend communists, North Koreans, and traitors.
TOK
1 year ago
You see, you didn’t answer my question.
But in a long winded away went to the point below
If you are an filthy unpatriotic Korean angry at Korea for whatever reason and looking to damage Korea because of your own personal shortcomings in life, you should be ashamed. Walk immediately to the DMZ, cross over, and experience the equality and good treatment.
TOK, you will get no traction trying to defend communists, North Koreans, and traitors.
Because you see, I didn’t say anything good about communism, or North Korea, I just simply asked you what are “the values of communism, North Korea, and anti-Korean globalist” in your eyes, that tick you off.
And you went straight to calling me whatever you call others who don’t like Yoon and his policies.
So yeah, you don’t want anyone to oppose Yoon and his policies, pure and simple.
It doesn’t matter whether Yoon’s policies are right and wrong, you don’t want anyone to oppose him and his policies.
So stop beating around the bushes and admit it for the world to see.
Or are you one of those “cowardly right wingers” that KP loves to talk about?
setnaffa
1 year ago
The current iteration of TOK has to be a bot because he can’t summarize or catch a hint.
However, bots and incels resemble each other quite a bit, so without my glasses they all smell like piss-eggs.
TOK
1 year ago
The current iteration of TOK has to be a bot because he can’t summarize or catch a hint.
However, bots and incels resemble each other quite a bit, so without my glasses they all smell like piss-eggs.
Well old man, it’s obvious that your logic is;
Yoon & right wing dictatorship = stop Communism = good
Moon & leftist government = won’t stop Communism = bad
But then Communism is akin to a dictatorship. You have a single party that owns everything and controls everything.
Same thing with a right wing dictatorship, which you advocate, which controls everything and although they don’t own everything in some cases they do stick their fingers into the economy, and try to siphon off some for themselves.
The exception is Putin and his cronies who pretty much own everything in Russia.
It’s ironic that you are rooting for the same thing that you despise.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
“Which begs the question of what are “values of communism, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists” in the eyes of CH?
It’s obviously whatever CH sees fit.”
Anyone who asks that question and makes that statement is most likely a tool of one of those groups.
Run along, my little saboteur.
Korean Person
1 year ago
Anyone who asks that question and makes that statement is most likely a tool of one of those groups.
Didn’t you once say that if I couldn’t answer your questions that what you said was correct?
In that case, why can’t you answer TOK’s question?
From this situation, we can conclude;
You don’t know and understand enough of the subject matter to articulate an answer to TOK’s question.
What TOK is saying is correct.
Korean Homme
1 year ago
Yoon government accuses four reporters from four media companies of spreading fake news against Yoon, so they need to be arrested and then get “executed” (they actually said this).
If you loved Korea, you would decry such attacks against press freedoms, and be appalled and concerned with the attacks against the freedom of South Koreans. But if you’re just mindless foreign shills of Yoon who only care about their own national interests (American) to win the fight for hegemony in Asia at whatever the costs, then they wouldn’t mind seeing South Korea going back to 1980.
Korean Person
1 year ago
If you loved Korea, you would decry such attacks against press freedoms, and be appalled and concerned with the attacks against the freedom of South Koreans. But if you’re just mindless foreign shills of Yoon who only care about their own national interests (American) to win the fight for hegemony in Asia at whatever the costs, then they wouldn’t mind seeing South Korea going back to 1980.
Well said, Korean Homme.
You hit the nail on the head.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
“Yoon government accuses four reporters from four media companies of spreading fake news against Yoon, so they need to be arrested and then get “executed””
I don’t know this situation.
I believe in freedom of the press.
I don’t believe in freedom of the press to lie.
I don’t know if the press is lying in this situation (because I don’t know the details) but after watching both the Korean and (especially) American press outright lying in ways harmful to citizens but beneficial to the wealthy, the corporations, and the globalists, I am inclined to believe by default (unless you explain otherwise) these reporters were pushing some agenda counter to the well-being of Korea and Koreans.
If it can be demonstrated they violated the trust placed in them by spreading fake news and claiming, as a reporter, for it to be true, they need to be arrested as traitors to Korea, given a truly fair trial, have their agenda and its true beneficiaries exposed, and executed as anti-Korean saboteurs if properly found guilty.
Try this:
Explain what “fake news” the four are accused of spreading and why it is claimed to be fake. Explain how their news is actually truthful.
If their statements are true, I will agree with you against the Yoon administration. Freedom of the press to expose misdeeds must be protected (especially if it is apolitical). If their statements are false, I will determine if they are anti-Korean traitors pushing a foreign agenda, communists, etc., and I will likely agree execution is the correct way to protect Korea against spies and propagandist hiding behind the shield of “journalism”.
As has been offered many times in the past, you now have a chance to easily win everyone over to your way of thinking simply by demonstrating facts with an explanation.
Difficulty Level:
– if you continue to yap nonsense filled with buzzwords and emotion, but no logic and clear reasoning, it will be obvious the fake journalists should be executed
– if any of your facts turn out to be lies, it will be obvious thr fake journalists should be executed
– if you refuse to answer, it will be obvious the fake journalists should be executed
The power of opinion over their lives is up to you. Good luck.
Korean Person
1 year ago
As TOK has eloquently and logically pointed out, setnaffa and his sockpuppets are only interested in protecting Yoon.
So, they will not listen to any allegations that might undercut Yoon.
Which means it is obviously not worth my time to explain to CH.
Because CH won’t listen to the truth, will only conclude that people are unfairly attacking Yoon, and spin statements that are supportive of Yoon.
GrayBlack
1 year ago
What goes around comes around. Freedom of political speech/press can only exist as a sort of cease fire agreement between vying political factions. Let’s not pretend political weaponization of libel/defamation laws has been a one way street. How many journalists critical of Moon Jae In landed in legal trouble again? That cease fire has mostly broken down and naturally escalation is on the table so long as power is contestable and no one is willing to back down.
South Korea’s political division looks like a cold civil war. In some ways similar to America. Ideas of what is considered “patriotic” and “treason” differ depending on the side. These divisions run deep, all the way back to the Three Kingdoms of Korea. The regional Baekje/Silla divide never really went away. Regional intermarriage rates were always very low. Even today. Heck, intermarriage rates between villages was historically very low because walking over half a dozen mountains and trudging through half a dozen rivers to find a wife just isn’t practical when the girl next door is available.
This has led to perceivable differences in appearance between the regions, at least for the trained eye. Pohang people tend to be tall with very pointy chins. Sokcho have rounder faces and are shorter. North Gyeongsandbuk-do tend to have long rectangular faces and are tall. Jeolla-Do, heh, tend to look like rice farming peasants (because they are).
To the outsider, such differences are invisible, but to the insider, such differences are not merely physical, but markers of political socioeconomic tribe. Korea was never one country, and in fact the short lived Korean Empire was very much the most apt name for what has always been a collection of highly divided sub-nations. Mountains do that, and Korea is the country of 10,000 mountains.
Most of modern South Korea’s censorship was centered around shutting down pro-North/communist speech. Considering the war is still technically ongoing, this is not out of the ordinary. See what happened to anti war protestors in America during the 20th century. Quite a few ended up in jail for years. Free speech isn’t absolute in war time as it turns out.
One then only needs look at who is against the old anti communist censorship laws in Korea to have suspicion about loyalties. Naturally, accusations get thrown around often.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
Korea Person, don’t go into law.
You have EXACTLY done what is expected when the “reporters” are anti-Korean propagandists and their actions can neither be defended nor rationalized.
Divert, divert, divert.
That might work on the little wannabe commies but it doesn’t work here.
You have moved the pointer toward execution.
However, this is Korea Homme’s duty more than yours to explain and defend, so let’s give him a chance.
All three of the man/person/homme drones are kinda dumb and seem unable to do more than cut and paste from their liat of skogans and buzzwords.
TOK sometimes has something useful to say but it is frequently misguided.
Feel free to address the issue.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
So I looked up the situation… crappy translations of poor writing.
Short version, as I understand it:
– some reporter wrote a speculative hit piece on Yoon prior to the election in a typical case of election interference… the news outlet later apologized. (It gets uglier because someone against Yoon and benefitting from this article transferred the reporter a big sum of money. But, but, but, “It was for a book.” Okidokie.)
– 4 reporters wrote “factual” reports on Yoon, using the speculative hit piece as their “source”. These were not represented as opinion but as fact.
This is unethical. This is unethical by people who have a higher obligation to a functioning society to be ethical.
We have seen this in America where Team Hillary worked with the FBI to plant a false media story about Trump and then used that story to get a warrant to wage lawfare on those around him.
This does not benefit the country.
I am leaning toward death.
But let’s see how the chinabots explain this.
Prediction: Lots of typing with lots of attacks but no clear information or rational explanation
Because lefties are predators or idiots, so it is impossible to have a rational conversation, every day, I save money to buy a cargo helicopter.
setnaffa
1 year ago
I like the Latin-American diversity that CH brings to the discussion.
If you look at history, you will see many examples of right wingers screwing things up.
Right wing politicians among other things;
– started the Great Depression
– started WW2
– got the US into a disastrous war in Iraq
– helped China become a powerful nation
– ruined the US economy
While left wing politicians;
– got the US out of the Great Depression
– defeated the Axis and finished WW2
– got the US out of an economic disaster after the 2nd Bush administration
The right should do us all a favor, not try to strain their limited brain power and make things worse as a result.
They should stay at home and let the left run things.
It would result in a way better world than the one we have now.
$hee-it (in my best Texan drawl), now you’re just trollin us, Korean Person. This is base level college frosh liberal claptrap 101. Please, tell your chicom masters to get a little more woke dialogue in the posts. Read Vox or msnbc or daily beast to pick up the finer points of retarded American liberal thought.
Do better odishi!
Is that an inspirational idea from my ID, “Chickencheeseramen”?
Lazy chinabots abound. It’s why I mock them. They’re dull but annoying.
I would have thought RokDrop deserved at least one with an IQ above room temperature.
This crowd can’t even express dialectical materialism competently…
Maybe they need more remedial work on Xi thoughts. I don’t think they’re even serious about that!
Winnie will be pissed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQxhInFszhM&ab_channel=SBS%EB%89%B4%EC%8A%A4
Since Google started using their new AI, searches are less useful than out chinabots.
What’s absolutely disgusting about all this is that the government is taking South Korea into austerity measures, including cutting of defense spending, cutting support for defense industries, cutting the nation’s research and development, cutting science funding, eliminating support for youth unemployment, and cutting support for struggling SME businesses. However, they’re spending over $1 billion to ensure the aftermath inspection of Fukushima releases.
https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/469/0000757977?sid=101
Not only that, the government is bringing more slave labor from Southeast Asia to look after the dwindling number of kids, as ‘nannies’.
“However, they’re spending over $1 billion to ensure the aftermath inspection of Fukushima releases.”
I agree. It is an avoidable expense if the noisy lefties would study some science instead of simply being noisy to hear themselves be self-importantly noisy.
If I was in charge, I would publish a chart with the math done in crayon and tell everyone involved to go sit on a dìck.
But I have chosen the path of competence instead of political speaking, so I am grudgingly tolerated as a necessity kept in the background rather than pushed to the forefront to sugarcoat the bitter truth… or outright lie.
(I occasionally get to speak the truths everyone else is afraid to voice… and it is glorious.)
(Bonus: Someone pointed out that when they notice I become suddenly smooth and political, it is a trap and the situation is dangerous. After consideration, I proudly agree)
Anyway, if you feel the money spent on Fukushima monitoring is a waste, my suggestion is get all your lefty friends to stop whining about it.
And if you believe it is a real issue, the spending is not a waste, is it.
Checkmate.
Not really. All this spending would not have been necessary at all if the SK government hadn’t encouraged the Japanese government to release the waters.
“All this spending would not have been necessary at all if the SK government hadn’t encouraged the Japanese government to release the waters.”
I follow Japanese foreign policy very closely and I did notice every policy decision starts with “What does South Korea think we should do?”
Or maybe they don’t and you are a self-important dummy. Hard to know.
First, they said they would send Korean experts to Fukushima to make sure Japan would follow the steps that IAEA, Japan, and South Korea negotiated for safe discharges. Now that’s out the window. The Korean government now says they have to negotiate with Japan each time they want to check up on Fukushima – already a rollback by Japan, breaking from the international promise they had made with Korea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh-sZfMQjtY&t=94s&ab_channel=JTBCNews
So this waste of spending over a billion dollars a year for 30 to 60 years until the reactors are deactivated, is just a total waste of money in my opinion. Once the nuclear pollution levels reach high readings in the South Korean fishing grounds, it’s already too late to do anything. Just write off the fishing industry completely and forget about it. There’s no point in having a system for safety when nobody’s going to be consuming any seafood anyway. That should cost SK, $30 billion a year, or a loss of $50 billion a year if you count the loss of tourism.
I don’t know about you, but the absolutely the wrong signal was to send Japan a secret communication to say, “Hurry up with the water release, before our elections take place!”. The right signal would have been, “if you release those waters, we’re going to completely ban all fish imports from your country and we’re going to fuck you up too, as you are going fuck with us”. That’s what the response should have been, idiot.
“Once the nuclear pollution levels reach high readings in the South Korean fishing grounds, it’s already too late to do anything”
You are a woman.
That is the only explanation.
Men don’t imagine something, get worked up about the results of their imagination, and make real-world decisions based on their emotional response to their own famtasy.
Women, like you, are champions of this.
As has been offered, do some math and show us the nuclear pollution levels when it hits the Korean fishing grounds.
If it is a problem, I will 100% change my tune and stand with you in protest. I don’t want to eat contaminated seafood either.
Getting me on your side of the issue is just that easy.
If your math works out where the level is the same as background by the time it reaches Korea, then you are just a noisy leftist pawn yelling over imaginary issues because you can’t find any legitimate gripes.
You could also be a rightwing pawn focusing attention on nonsense to keep attention away from issues the public should truly be concerned about.
Neither is a good look for you.
If you refuse to do the math and simply want to keep whining under different names, you aren’t a serious person and you will be treated as such.
So, your choices are grab a calculator and have everone on you side, grab a calculator and ease your mind, or refuse to create any facts and keep emotionally arguing your feels, like a woman.
So what is it going to be?
And that will change what? The whole idea was to prevent this from happening in the first place, to eliminate even a 5% chance that it’s going to be a man-made environmental disaster. Already, Japanese government is breaking its promises to allow Korean inspectors to check up once in a while to keep Japan’s nose clean (a country that has an opaque system of coverups that often surface later and Japanese politicians end bowing and apologizing in front of press conferences then move on to do the same over and over). What good is it for Chickenhead joining the “protest”? Is that going to bring back hundreds of billions of dollars to the economy, while you sneak off to the side?
South Korean government is now bringing in foreign ‘nannies’ as a pilot program as a test, to supposedly help the birthrate.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/01/asia/south-korea-migrant-domestic-worker-intl-hnk/index.html
Rich city-states like Hong Kong and Singapore are paying these foreign nannies, $600 a month – which is slave labor wages, unprecedented exploitation at galore. However, the birthrates of those two states are not much better than South Korea’s. So how is this going to help South Korea?
The Yoon administration proposed to pay these nannies below minimum wage – which led to a huge outcry, forcing the kkondae president to reverse his sick decision, thankfully. But even if the nannies are paid the proper going market rate for live-in nannies – $3400 a month, how is this going to help the South Korean family where an average individual earns only $3800 a month?
All this is very poorly thought out, and it points to a coming system where the government will turn a blind eye to rampant labor abuses with lower pay rates – it’s a wink from the government to those families, to go ahead and hire these nannies, but you don’t have to follow the pretend rules. What terrible disgusting people, I hope they get judged someday.
Korean Homme, so you don’t want to do math and see if there is really a problem? You want to keep imagining a problem and then making imaginary complaints all based on maybies.
Got it.
Nothing more to discuss.
Keep living in that own private hell.
If the vast quantities of unprocessed sewage, nuclear waste, non-biodegradable garbage China dumps into the Pacific, and overfishing from those illegal Chinese fishing fleets, don’t disturb chinabot’s fantasy, the pittance supplied by Japan won’t pollute anything at all.
The projection from Beijing’s catemite army is astoundingly tone-deaf.
so you don’t want to do math
It is obvious that your very low brainpower cannot process the math.
So obviously no need to put forward a complex math problem for the Setnaffarians to process.
$hee-it (in my best Texan drawl), now you’re just trollin us
Is that an inspirational idea from my ID
Lazy chinabots abound. It’s why I mock them. They’re dull but annoying.
What can we learn from the statements above?
Korea Person, i don’t have to do the math becasue:
– not my problem
– i am not the one trying to get action out of others with imagined fear
One more option. You do the math and it shows to have nothing to worry about.
Do the math or shut up.
The Yoon government is now dismantling memorials for victims of the Japanese military which are located in parks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIRzotBh8Js&ab_channel=MBCNEWS
Not surprising at all, considering his family has a long history of collaborating with Japanese colonials, so he now has to take orders from them.
I guess math doesnt support whining about nuclear Armageddon.
Soooo…
We have moved on to opinions that cannot be disproven by math.
But you still sound like an idiot.
But you still sound like an idiot.
Considering that the Setnaffarian tactic of using the word “chinabot” isn’t working undoubtedly setnaffa has changed his tactics by using the word “idiot.”
It seems that setnaffa is getting desperate.
You can be both a Chinabot and an idiot.
In this case, your concepts were more aligned with you being an idiot than a Chinabot.
Patriotic Koreans who didn’t learn math in school or who have blind hatered for Japan could say the same things.
When you again spout some destructive nonsense about Korea, I will again call you a Chinabot.
I can call you an idiot as well, if you don’t want to feel left out.
Define “Patriotic Koreans”.
A patriotic Korean puts the well-being of Korea above all considerations.
A smart patriotic Korean knows the difference between what is important and what is not in the short term and understands cause and effect in the long term.
And they can explain their exact line of reasoning for any decision.
In this case, the usual anti-Korean scold(s) have been given the chance to demonstrate the Japanese water is truly a problem.
They refuse to.
A smart patriotic Korean would care about Korea enough to do the math and post the results… especially if it got others to recognize the problem. A stupid but patriotic Korean would have someone else do the math.
An unpatriotic Korean or a Chinabot would perpetuate ignorance to perpetuatr disorder.
That is what we have here.
Oh come on CH. who are you trying to kid?
It’s been made obvious by statements made by you and setnaffa that the ideal definition of a “patriotic Korean” is a Korean who won’t criticize and oppose any right wing government, including and not limited to the Yoon government.
Drop the BS for once.
TIK-TOK is Chinese spyware.
So we expect anti-Korean rhetoric from you.
But Yoon is far from right-wing. Unless your center is based on Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, or Winnie.
Drop the BS for once.
TOK,
setnaffa is a right winger.
As such he is too cowardly to admit that he is BSing
But Yoon is far from right-wing
LOL!
Where does this guy get his info?
setnaffa really needs to do his homework.
TIK-TOK is Chinese spyware.
So we expect anti-Korean rhetoric from you.
So what can we deduce from the statement above;
Which bring us to this question.
Wonder if his Chinese masters are happy?
“Chinese” again?
You need to get a life, old man.
Lies, slander, and misdirection is all the chinabots are apparently allowed to type.
I hope their parents never find out what a bunch of gormless losers their offspring turned out to be.
Just pathetic.
And China isn’t covering itself in roses with this lot, either. They make the CCP look like losers, too…
Lies, slander, and misdirection is all the chinabots are apparently allowed to type.
Lies : setnaffa tried to spread fake news about vaccines during the pandemic. He also tried to spread fake news in order to discredit the victims of the Itaewon tragedy.
Slander : Calling Koreans who oppose the Yoon government, “chinabots”
Misdirection : Related to the first point “Lies”. setnaffa uses fake news and such to channel the narrative into the free world vs the Chinese theme, when it isn’t anything about China. The guy doesn’t believe in democracy and freedom!
Well, it seems setnaffa just described himself.
This conversation looks like a dresser…
…with the sock drawer open.
This conversation looks like a dresser…
…with the sock drawer open.
That is an interesting statement considering that you are the sockpuppet of setnaffa.
“That is an interesting statement considering that you are the sockpuppet of setnaffa.”
They are unrelated topics.
Me being a Setnaffa sockpuppet has no relationship to the cluster of anti-Korean chinabot socks.
Butwhatabout is a poor defense.
TOK, if by “won’t criticize and oppose any right wing government,” you mean, “won’t embrace the values of communists, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists,” you are absolutly right.
Many (but not all) leftist values are destructive to Korea and have no place in the beliefs of a patriotic Korean looking for national success.
For evidence, I submit:
– communist nations
– North Korea
– the website of the WEF
Not just China or Mexico! There are very corrupt people everywhere. Be very careful wherever you travel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKGtwaJaoHE
That’s probably one of the best form of doublespeak I’ve seen so for.
CH puts forward my words which were won’t criticize and oppose any right wing government and turns it into his own definition which is won’t embrace the values of communists, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists.
Which begs the question of what are “values of communism, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists” in the eyes of CH?
It’s obviously whatever CH sees fit.
If for example, some workers protest against what they feel are unfair labor practices initiated by Yoon then CH can define those workers as “communists” or “supporting North Korea” and then you have in his defintion “unpatrotic Koreans” and “chinabots.”
And then he puts forward this statement
Many (but not all) leftist values are destructive to Korea and have no place in the beliefs of a patriotic Korean looking for national success.
Many but not all is misleading because 99.9% can be considered as many but not all.
And 99.9% is almost all.
So if one were to read between the lines, yeah it is obvious that to CH and other members of the right wing cabal here, anyone who opposes Yoon and his policies are “unpatriotic Koreans” and “Chinese/chinabot.”
“Which begs the question of what are “values of communism, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists” in the eyes of CH?”
Those values speak for themselves.
Look at the history of communism, the conditions of North Korea, and the websites of various globalist organizations.
South Koreans should be especially sensitive to communism, North Korean values, and colonization by non-Koreans with their own agenda.
You either:
– lack the cognative ability to recognize this
– are a non-Korean looking to damage Korea
– are an unpatriotic Korean being used as a tool to damage Korea
If you are stupid, your opinion doesn’t matter. You can be made fun of until you recognize this and shush.
If you are a chinabot (or norkbot), your actions are understandable and there are no personal hard feelings as you look to further your own interestes over those of Korea.
If you are an filthy unpatriotic Korean angry at Korea for whatever reason and looking to damage Korea because of your own personal shortcomings in life, you should be ashamed. Walk immediately to the DMZ, cross over, and experience the equality and good treatment.
TOK, you will get no traction trying to defend communists, North Koreans, and traitors.
You see, you didn’t answer my question.
But in a long winded away went to the point below
Because you see, I didn’t say anything good about communism, or North Korea, I just simply asked you what are “the values of communism, North Korea, and anti-Korean globalist” in your eyes, that tick you off.
And you went straight to calling me whatever you call others who don’t like Yoon and his policies.
So yeah, you don’t want anyone to oppose Yoon and his policies, pure and simple.
It doesn’t matter whether Yoon’s policies are right and wrong, you don’t want anyone to oppose him and his policies.
So stop beating around the bushes and admit it for the world to see.
Or are you one of those “cowardly right wingers” that KP loves to talk about?
The current iteration of TOK has to be a bot because he can’t summarize or catch a hint.
However, bots and incels resemble each other quite a bit, so without my glasses they all smell like piss-eggs.
Well old man, it’s obvious that your logic is;
Yoon & right wing dictatorship = stop Communism = good
Moon & leftist government = won’t stop Communism = bad
But then Communism is akin to a dictatorship. You have a single party that owns everything and controls everything.
Same thing with a right wing dictatorship, which you advocate, which controls everything and although they don’t own everything in some cases they do stick their fingers into the economy, and try to siphon off some for themselves.
The exception is Putin and his cronies who pretty much own everything in Russia.
It’s ironic that you are rooting for the same thing that you despise.
“Which begs the question of what are “values of communism, North Koreans, and anti-Korean globalists” in the eyes of CH?
It’s obviously whatever CH sees fit.”
Anyone who asks that question and makes that statement is most likely a tool of one of those groups.
Run along, my little saboteur.
Anyone who asks that question and makes that statement is most likely a tool of one of those groups.
Didn’t you once say that if I couldn’t answer your questions that what you said was correct?
In that case, why can’t you answer TOK’s question?
From this situation, we can conclude;
Yoon government accuses four reporters from four media companies of spreading fake news against Yoon, so they need to be arrested and then get “executed” (they actually said this).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJdujAKF3pI&ab_channel=MBCNEWS
If you loved Korea, you would decry such attacks against press freedoms, and be appalled and concerned with the attacks against the freedom of South Koreans. But if you’re just mindless foreign shills of Yoon who only care about their own national interests (American) to win the fight for hegemony in Asia at whatever the costs, then they wouldn’t mind seeing South Korea going back to 1980.
If you loved Korea, you would decry such attacks against press freedoms, and be appalled and concerned with the attacks against the freedom of South Koreans. But if you’re just mindless foreign shills of Yoon who only care about their own national interests (American) to win the fight for hegemony in Asia at whatever the costs, then they wouldn’t mind seeing South Korea going back to 1980.
Well said, Korean Homme.
You hit the nail on the head.
“Yoon government accuses four reporters from four media companies of spreading fake news against Yoon, so they need to be arrested and then get “executed””
I don’t know this situation.
I believe in freedom of the press.
I don’t believe in freedom of the press to lie.
I don’t know if the press is lying in this situation (because I don’t know the details) but after watching both the Korean and (especially) American press outright lying in ways harmful to citizens but beneficial to the wealthy, the corporations, and the globalists, I am inclined to believe by default (unless you explain otherwise) these reporters were pushing some agenda counter to the well-being of Korea and Koreans.
If it can be demonstrated they violated the trust placed in them by spreading fake news and claiming, as a reporter, for it to be true, they need to be arrested as traitors to Korea, given a truly fair trial, have their agenda and its true beneficiaries exposed, and executed as anti-Korean saboteurs if properly found guilty.
Try this:
Explain what “fake news” the four are accused of spreading and why it is claimed to be fake. Explain how their news is actually truthful.
If their statements are true, I will agree with you against the Yoon administration. Freedom of the press to expose misdeeds must be protected (especially if it is apolitical). If their statements are false, I will determine if they are anti-Korean traitors pushing a foreign agenda, communists, etc., and I will likely agree execution is the correct way to protect Korea against spies and propagandist hiding behind the shield of “journalism”.
As has been offered many times in the past, you now have a chance to easily win everyone over to your way of thinking simply by demonstrating facts with an explanation.
Difficulty Level:
– if you continue to yap nonsense filled with buzzwords and emotion, but no logic and clear reasoning, it will be obvious the fake journalists should be executed
– if any of your facts turn out to be lies, it will be obvious thr fake journalists should be executed
– if you refuse to answer, it will be obvious the fake journalists should be executed
The power of opinion over their lives is up to you. Good luck.
As TOK has eloquently and logically pointed out, setnaffa and his sockpuppets are only interested in protecting Yoon.
So, they will not listen to any allegations that might undercut Yoon.
Which means it is obviously not worth my time to explain to CH.
Because CH won’t listen to the truth, will only conclude that people are unfairly attacking Yoon, and spin statements that are supportive of Yoon.
What goes around comes around. Freedom of political speech/press can only exist as a sort of cease fire agreement between vying political factions. Let’s not pretend political weaponization of libel/defamation laws has been a one way street. How many journalists critical of Moon Jae In landed in legal trouble again? That cease fire has mostly broken down and naturally escalation is on the table so long as power is contestable and no one is willing to back down.
South Korea’s political division looks like a cold civil war. In some ways similar to America. Ideas of what is considered “patriotic” and “treason” differ depending on the side. These divisions run deep, all the way back to the Three Kingdoms of Korea. The regional Baekje/Silla divide never really went away. Regional intermarriage rates were always very low. Even today. Heck, intermarriage rates between villages was historically very low because walking over half a dozen mountains and trudging through half a dozen rivers to find a wife just isn’t practical when the girl next door is available.
This has led to perceivable differences in appearance between the regions, at least for the trained eye. Pohang people tend to be tall with very pointy chins. Sokcho have rounder faces and are shorter. North Gyeongsandbuk-do tend to have long rectangular faces and are tall. Jeolla-Do, heh, tend to look like rice farming peasants (because they are).
To the outsider, such differences are invisible, but to the insider, such differences are not merely physical, but markers of political socioeconomic tribe. Korea was never one country, and in fact the short lived Korean Empire was very much the most apt name for what has always been a collection of highly divided sub-nations. Mountains do that, and Korea is the country of 10,000 mountains.
Most of modern South Korea’s censorship was centered around shutting down pro-North/communist speech. Considering the war is still technically ongoing, this is not out of the ordinary. See what happened to anti war protestors in America during the 20th century. Quite a few ended up in jail for years. Free speech isn’t absolute in war time as it turns out.
One then only needs look at who is against the old anti communist censorship laws in Korea to have suspicion about loyalties. Naturally, accusations get thrown around often.
Korea Person, don’t go into law.
You have EXACTLY done what is expected when the “reporters” are anti-Korean propagandists and their actions can neither be defended nor rationalized.
Divert, divert, divert.
That might work on the little wannabe commies but it doesn’t work here.
You have moved the pointer toward execution.
However, this is Korea Homme’s duty more than yours to explain and defend, so let’s give him a chance.
All three of the man/person/homme drones are kinda dumb and seem unable to do more than cut and paste from their liat of skogans and buzzwords.
TOK sometimes has something useful to say but it is frequently misguided.
Feel free to address the issue.
So I looked up the situation… crappy translations of poor writing.
Short version, as I understand it:
– some reporter wrote a speculative hit piece on Yoon prior to the election in a typical case of election interference… the news outlet later apologized. (It gets uglier because someone against Yoon and benefitting from this article transferred the reporter a big sum of money. But, but, but, “It was for a book.” Okidokie.)
– 4 reporters wrote “factual” reports on Yoon, using the speculative hit piece as their “source”. These were not represented as opinion but as fact.
This is unethical. This is unethical by people who have a higher obligation to a functioning society to be ethical.
We have seen this in America where Team Hillary worked with the FBI to plant a false media story about Trump and then used that story to get a warrant to wage lawfare on those around him.
This does not benefit the country.
I am leaning toward death.
But let’s see how the chinabots explain this.
Prediction: Lots of typing with lots of attacks but no clear information or rational explanation
Because lefties are predators or idiots, so it is impossible to have a rational conversation, every day, I save money to buy a cargo helicopter.
I like the Latin-American diversity that CH brings to the discussion.