TikTok hit with €345M fine for violating children’s privacy
The app unlawfully let anyone potentially watch and interact with teenagers in 2020.
Booming social media application TikTok needs to pay up in Europe for violating children’s privacy.
The popular Chinese-owned app failed to protect children’s personal information by making their accounts publicly accessible by default and insufficiently tackled risks that under-13 users could access its platform, the Irish Data Protection Commission (DPC) said in a decision published Friday.
The regulator slapped TikTok with a €345 million fine for breaching the EU’s landmark privacy law, the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).
“Inside the S. Korean factory that could be key for Ukraine”
Good for Korea.
That law about not supplying weapons to conflict zones needs to go. While the letter of the law is followed via legal and logistical gymnastics, the spirit of the law is being fully and openly violated.
That is no way to run a legal system.
Also, Korea needs a policy of “Have money, will equip”.
Korea needs to make it clear they have no ideological involvement in global conflict. They simply supply equipment at a fixed price to those able to pay.
There is no shame in supplying Ukraine and Russia simultaneously.
This will be a good business for decades to come, if managed correctly.
Part of that management is sensor, space, drone, and hypersonic technology, which Korea lags in. The brightest economic future is not based around tanks and rifles.
The coming world order will be set via the ability to sense the enemy from space and send hypersonic bomber across the world to take care of business.
setnaffa
1 year ago
SADE in the background works far too well with space games…
Stephen
1 year ago
2023 Ignobel Prize awarded to Park Seung-min.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
“SADE in the background works far too well with space games…”
You Decide: Space Game Dialog or Sade Song Lyrics
1. We move in space with minimum waste and maximum joy
2. Max the focal plane on the conjunction drive, set the summit disruptor for 11 terajoules, sync the warp fringe overlap with the plot probability vector, energize the zero point inductors, and let’s give those reticulan scum all the hell the deserve!
Spoilers ahead:
1. Cut screen dialog when first bording the starliner “Anl Intrdr” in the game “LGBQTransGalactic”.
2. Lyrics from the Sade song “Smooth Starship Operator” from the album “Diamond Nights is no Big Deal in Space”.
GrayBlack
1 year ago
Korea needs a policy of “Have money, will equip”.Korea needs to make it clear they have no ideological involvement in global conflict. They simply supply equipment at a fixed price to those able to pay.
There is no shame in supplying Ukraine and Russia simultaneously.
Ha! They already do. The North gets the Russian market, the South gets the Ukrainian market.
Disgusting story of how the majority of 200,000 Korean “orphans” weren’t even orphans at all, they were children of a baby factory that was set up by the South Korean dictatorship governments before the 1990s, the crooked international orphanages, and the international adoption agencies who sold manufactured Korean babies abroad. Some kids were just kidnapped straight off of the streets and sold abroad. And people wonder why Korea’s birth rate is so low now and why the population isn’t growing.
This fed into a long-standing Western narrative that South Korea in the 1980s was a poverty-stricken place where destitute mothers were forced to abandon their babies – as opposed to a booming economy enjoying rapid annual growth that at times exceeded 10 percent, as it was in reality.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
Cool story, bro.
So, anyway, how do I get a job in one of those baby factories?
Maybe this is a repeat complaint on this forum, but I don’t recall seeing it during my dozen years or so as a dropper:
Payment systems that won’t take AP or AE as a state.
Today I’m calling out SwipeSimple. They don’t take AP, AE, nor any international addresses.
“Select your country”, so I can input my international mailing address? Nope, they don’t have that either.
So not only can I NOT use my AP address (a United States of America mailing address), but I can’t use my Pyeongtaek apartment address either.
So frustrating to run across these (worthless) payment systems that don’t accommodate US citizens using US mailing addresses.
Just as a guess, there must be ~300,000 citizens with AP or AE (I’m guessing close to 100K just in Korea after counting dependents, of course)
Every mail-order business/service provider should boycott the likes of SwipeSimple until they can process all US addresses at the very least.
Korean Person
1 year ago
A typical right wing behavior of acting above the law, causing discomfort to other people, and later lying and denying the actions even though the evidence clearly shows that person doing the alleged actions.
But to her credit, at least she apologized which is something you don’t see right wingers do.
But I think it wasn’t her own free will and more likely her aides who talked some sense into ther.
Right wingers should do us all a favor, stay at home, and let the left run things.
Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert apologized Friday after getting kicked out of a musical play in Colorado last weekend for disruptive behavior and then falsely denying she had been vaping.
She was kicked out of the “Beetlejuice” musical last Sunday following complaints from people in the audience that she and another guest were vaping, singing, using phones and causing a disturbance.
A nutjob right winger got busted for doing nutjob things after drinking?
Where is my fainting couch?
This means the right had better stay home and let the left make more child trannies.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
I am seldom surprised, as even the most outrageous crap is easily explained through evil or stupidity…
…but the Marines losing an F-35 caught me off guard.
Liz
1 year ago
Mike used to fly with the Beaufort pilots quite a bit.
They actually lost an F18 on a TDY when we were stationed at Osan also. Unfortunately the pilot did not survive that one…
some parts of the plane were eventually found.
Korean Person
1 year ago
A nutjob right winger got busted for doing nutjob things after drinking?
Where is my fainting couch?
This means the right had better stay home and let the left make more child trannies.
As I’ve said, right wingers are liars and cowards and don’t like to admit their wrong doings.
That and them being poorly educated and dumb
The characteristics above also leads to their habit of spreading fake news and misinformation, among others.
Right wingers are surely detrimental to the well being of the world and should stay at home and keep quiet.
setnaffa
1 year ago
The Congresswoman in question was not, however, caught with her gay lover getting hamnered in her underwear. That was the former Speaker of the House’s husband.
Leftist are all “it’s just sex, everyone does it” until a Republican does it within the law. Then they go all Puritan (“Burn The Witch!”) about public displays of affection and conveniently forget about kiddie-diddling Bidens, intern-porking and secretary-raaping Clinton, and such that they do. We’ll ignore Barry and Big Mike for the moment.
Because it’s always “Year Zero” with them. They think they can control the present by lying about the past. But they no longer control all our sources of information.
And also, although the Congresswoman is not my type, she’s a hell of a lot better looking than anything the Democrats or Norkistani governing family have to offer…
My type? Why, it’s Mrs. Setnaffa, of course. Coming up on 25 years real soon.
(Not that our resident chinabot incels could imagine anything like that.)
We got yer “Year Zero” right here commie… Ask yer Mom…
ChickenHead
1 year ago
We must be careful. Korea Person is starting to figure us out.
I am going to have to think about this while I put gays into camps and burn witches, or whatever right-wingers are supposed to do.
Yelling at the sky about commies is getting old.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
I am glad to see the Security State keeps everything under observation.
I feel safer and it is good to see justice done.
It is not perfect, but it is a good start.
And it makes the world a better place for the children… and whales… and climate change… and Safe & Effective.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
I found the missing F-35.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
Caption This Picture:
“Well I do declare, what can you possibly mean by ‘an American negro has trespassed across our border’? I reckon this behavior is most unacceptable. Now bring me another mint julep, and let’s make sure this here boy don’t think he is going to be living in high cotton.”
Another story of how the dictatorial Korean governments of Park Chung Hee, Chun Doo Hwan, Roh Tae Woo, etc, stole children from their mothers and sold them abroad for money.
stole children from their mothers and sold them abroad for money.
I’m not sure you read the article. Money may have been a factor in some cases, but it wasn’t the only factor and I doubt it was the main factor. The likely main factors appears to be a desire to remove impure children. Consider how abortion in Korea was illegal and difficult to get until 2021. That’s a big impure population.
Putting the kids up for adoption was a widespread cultural attitude getting reflected in government policy rather the government policy imposing it on the people. Were some of the children stolen? I don’t know, but
They told her that her mother had passed out during labor and that when she woke up, the clinic told her that the baby had died.
would be a rather convenient lie when confronted with an unexpected guilty past showing up on your front door…
I also must say, all those Meeky Woo Flippen types… well it’s probably best they were raised outside of Korea. Probably best if they stay outside of Korea.
Conspiracy theories about the missing F35 are pretty funny.
Never seen this level of public interest/scrutiny over a missing plane.
Glad they didn’t publish his (or her?) name.
ChickenHead
1 year ago
Liz, conspracy theories are quite reasonable in this case.
To the average guy on the street, something seems wrong about a pilot ejecting from an aircraft that is functional enough to keep flying for such a long distance that it cannot be found.
The expectation is the pilot would point it somewhere safe and ride it out a bit closer to the end.
It doesn’t help that the transponder was shut off.
The most simple explanation is something happened that panicked the pilot (and also shut off the transponder) and he ejected long before he needed to.
But this is 2023 and a case can also be made that some poorly-vetted diversity hire pilot got in a hissy-fit becasue of misgendering and decided the best way to punish everyone was to shut off the transponder and eject from a perfectly good aircraft.
The current level of evidence supports both of these outcomes. The inability of the government to ask the pilot what happened and report his reasonable explanation within hours, tips the balance towards conspiracy.
It doesn’t help that a lot of stuff with government involvement over the last few years has turned out to be due to the conspiracy theory while the reasonable explanation turned out to be a complete lie.
While I might laugh at a conspiracy theory involving aliens or the Jews (or not), I would certainly entertain one based on intentional mismanagement, grossly misguided priorities, or outrageous incompetance, leading to this situation, followed by a delay to manufacture a thin coverstory that satistfies the ignorant and the dumb.
Let’s see what the official explanation turns out to be.
With your years of experience, what is your best guess?
Liz
1 year ago
CH, I think it could have been any number of reasons.
The transponder might’ve been off due to an electrical problem, or it might not have been on in the first place. Often when fighters fly together as a unit, only the lead has the transponder on (the FAA prefers it that way, fewer signals).
There’s not enough information available and the media accounts are seldom accurate this early on (sometimes they wildly inaccurate). We don’t really know the condition of the pilot at the moment either.
It might have been a bird strike or fire for all we know.
One reason why autopilot would be employed: if something was going wrong and the pilot was trying to troubleshoot (looking through check lists and so forth) he might’ve turned it on (perhaps forgot to turn it off during the excitement).
Planes have been known to fly off by themselves after an ejection even when the plane was in an uncontrolled spin.
Sometimes just the force of the ejection takes the plane out of the spin, and sometimes the plane rights itself (the F16 has an automatic ground collision avoidance system, the F35 probably does as well).
There was some suggestion the plane ejected the pilot automatically. Anything is possible, but it’s not terribly likely. I don’t think the USAF F35 has an auto eject system but if the marine version has it, that would make it more likely.
Per the pilot, we don’t really know if he is in any condition to talk yet. And then, he might only talk in debriefing while they try to noodle on what caused the issue (whatever the issue might be). It would be extremely unusual for a public statement from the pilot at least until the investigation is over…I don’t think I’ve ever heard one this soon. Of course, in the past I didn’t pay much attention unless I knew the people involved. But it is true as far as I can recall.
Liz
1 year ago
Just to add,
There is a lot of politics involved with the F35, I don’t think any pilot would eject for frivolous reasons. There was a big reason, we just don’t know. But during the early years with the F22, the initial cadre pilots were told to try to get it into an uncontrolled spin to test and see what it could do. The engineers believed it couldn’t get into an uncontrolled spin. Well…one of the pilots did it, and after that his career was over (though he recovered it before it crashed, so no accident to investigate). TPTB aren’t pleased with bad press, and I’ve never seen this level of scrutiny over a plane crash.
Liz
1 year ago
The memes though.
Have to say the memes are awesome. LOL
I have no opinion on this, and a F-15 pilot is not an unbiased source, but I remember Back in the Day, the F-4 was beating the newer jets simply because F-4 pilots knew their jet and the other pilots were still flying as if they were flying F-4s.
You likely have better insight into this than my third-hand knowledge.
Liz
1 year ago
I don’t know much about the capabilities of the F35 versus F15, CH.
There is something to skill level, familiarity with the jet, and all that.
Also there’s a thing called “fighting the Nellis war”…which is a way of saying the performance is different when the danger is real versus simulated. Also, our pilots don’t have the level of training (number of training hours) they once had. Training is expensive, and instructors are scarce.
Side note: Just read an article claiming the weather caused the crash. First thing that stood out to me was a statement from the pilot (Mike confirms that in all the crashes/ejections he has seen they don’t interview the pilot right after). Twitter community notes confirmed it was the wingman…he was referring to why he lost sight of the fighter when it went down. Protocol is to stay with the downed pilot anyway (my Dad once lost a friend who bailed out of a plane that had been shot, into a body of water. He kept an eye on the guy until a rescue plane arrived…Dad was doing test patterns around him and running out of fuel. They said they saw the guy, so he headed back. Then they lost sight of him and he drowned. Mike always remembered that story and never abandoned a downed pilot until the rescuers were actually there with the pilot)
Liz
1 year ago
One more post on this…sorry, just read a little more information that wasn’t available before.
Apparently that model of the F35 (Marine version) does have auto eject. Which is interesting. However, reading further I don’t think it was a malfunction because… there is a minimum altitude where it is considered safe for a fighter pilot to eject. After that, the accident investigation board might question the pilot’s judgment. It appears (unlike the first reports) he ejected at 1000 feet…which is quite low, and might be (ironically) late. Theoretically the ejection system works even on the ground but they don’t like a pilot to wait that long if there is reason to eject they want them to do it earlier (parachute might not function correctly, and so forth…a lot can go wrong with a late ejection).
setnaffa
1 year ago
From the 1980 B-52 “Dash One” (technical manual);
WARNING: Do not delay ejection below 2,000 feet in vain attempts to restart engines
Inside the S. Korean factory that could be key for Ukraine
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230915-inside-the-s-korean-factory-that-could-be-key-for-ukraine
TikTok hit with €345M fine for violating children’s privacy
https://www.politico.eu/article/tiktok-fine-social-media-china-violate-children-privacy/
“Inside the S. Korean factory that could be key for Ukraine”
Good for Korea.
That law about not supplying weapons to conflict zones needs to go. While the letter of the law is followed via legal and logistical gymnastics, the spirit of the law is being fully and openly violated.
That is no way to run a legal system.
Also, Korea needs a policy of “Have money, will equip”.
Korea needs to make it clear they have no ideological involvement in global conflict. They simply supply equipment at a fixed price to those able to pay.
There is no shame in supplying Ukraine and Russia simultaneously.
This will be a good business for decades to come, if managed correctly.
Part of that management is sensor, space, drone, and hypersonic technology, which Korea lags in. The brightest economic future is not based around tanks and rifles.
The coming world order will be set via the ability to sense the enemy from space and send hypersonic bomber across the world to take care of business.
SADE in the background works far too well with space games…
2023 Ignobel Prize awarded to Park Seung-min.
“SADE in the background works far too well with space games…”
You Decide: Space Game Dialog or Sade Song Lyrics
1. We move in space with minimum waste and maximum joy
2. Max the focal plane on the conjunction drive, set the summit disruptor for 11 terajoules, sync the warp fringe overlap with the plot probability vector, energize the zero point inductors, and let’s give those reticulan scum all the hell the deserve!
Spoilers ahead:
1. Cut screen dialog when first bording the starliner “Anl Intrdr” in the game “LGBQTransGalactic”.
2. Lyrics from the Sade song “Smooth Starship Operator” from the album “Diamond Nights is no Big Deal in Space”.
Ha! They already do. The North gets the Russian market, the South gets the Ukrainian market.
Disgusting story of how the majority of 200,000 Korean “orphans” weren’t even orphans at all, they were children of a baby factory that was set up by the South Korean dictatorship governments before the 1990s, the crooked international orphanages, and the international adoption agencies who sold manufactured Korean babies abroad. Some kids were just kidnapped straight off of the streets and sold abroad. And people wonder why Korea’s birth rate is so low now and why the population isn’t growing.
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/people/article/3234719/south-koreas-dark-past-wests-baby-farm-laid-bare-adopted-children-sale-who-grew-far-home
Cool story, bro.
So, anyway, how do I get a job in one of those baby factories?
I specialize in startups.
Maybe this is a repeat complaint on this forum, but I don’t recall seeing it during my dozen years or so as a dropper:
Payment systems that won’t take AP or AE as a state.
Today I’m calling out SwipeSimple. They don’t take AP, AE, nor any international addresses.
“Select your country”, so I can input my international mailing address? Nope, they don’t have that either.
So not only can I NOT use my AP address (a United States of America mailing address), but I can’t use my Pyeongtaek apartment address either.
So frustrating to run across these (worthless) payment systems that don’t accommodate US citizens using US mailing addresses.
Just as a guess, there must be ~300,000 citizens with AP or AE (I’m guessing close to 100K just in Korea after counting dependents, of course)
Every mail-order business/service provider should boycott the likes of SwipeSimple until they can process all US addresses at the very least.
A typical right wing behavior of acting above the law, causing discomfort to other people, and later lying and denying the actions even though the evidence clearly shows that person doing the alleged actions.
But to her credit, at least she apologized which is something you don’t see right wingers do.
But I think it wasn’t her own free will and more likely her aides who talked some sense into ther.
Right wingers should do us all a favor, stay at home, and let the left run things.
Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert apologized Friday after getting kicked out of a musical play in Colorado last weekend for disruptive behavior and then falsely denying she had been vaping.
She was kicked out of the “Beetlejuice” musical last Sunday following complaints from people in the audience that she and another guest were vaping, singing, using phones and causing a disturbance.
Rep. Lauren Boebert apologizes after getting kicked out of show and falsely denying she vaped | AP News
A nutjob right winger got busted for doing nutjob things after drinking?
Where is my fainting couch?
This means the right had better stay home and let the left make more child trannies.
I am seldom surprised, as even the most outrageous crap is easily explained through evil or stupidity…
…but the Marines losing an F-35 caught me off guard.
Mike used to fly with the Beaufort pilots quite a bit.
They actually lost an F18 on a TDY when we were stationed at Osan also. Unfortunately the pilot did not survive that one…
some parts of the plane were eventually found.
A nutjob right winger got busted for doing nutjob things after drinking?
Where is my fainting couch?
This means the right had better stay home and let the left make more child trannies.
As I’ve said, right wingers are liars and cowards and don’t like to admit their wrong doings.
That and them being poorly educated and dumb
The characteristics above also leads to their habit of spreading fake news and misinformation, among others.
Right wingers are surely detrimental to the well being of the world and should stay at home and keep quiet.
The Congresswoman in question was not, however, caught with her gay lover getting hamnered in her underwear. That was the former Speaker of the House’s husband.
Leftist are all “it’s just sex, everyone does it” until a Republican does it within the law. Then they go all Puritan (“Burn The Witch!”) about public displays of affection and conveniently forget about kiddie-diddling Bidens, intern-porking and secretary-raaping Clinton, and such that they do. We’ll ignore Barry and Big Mike for the moment.
Because it’s always “Year Zero” with them. They think they can control the present by lying about the past. But they no longer control all our sources of information.
And also, although the Congresswoman is not my type, she’s a hell of a lot better looking than anything the Democrats or Norkistani governing family have to offer…
My type? Why, it’s Mrs. Setnaffa, of course. Coming up on 25 years real soon.
(Not that our resident chinabot incels could imagine anything like that.)
We got yer “Year Zero” right here commie… Ask yer Mom…
We must be careful. Korea Person is starting to figure us out.
I am going to have to think about this while I put gays into camps and burn witches, or whatever right-wingers are supposed to do.
Yelling at the sky about commies is getting old.
I am glad to see the Security State keeps everything under observation.
I feel safer and it is good to see justice done.
It is not perfect, but it is a good start.
And it makes the world a better place for the children… and whales… and climate change… and Safe & Effective.
I found the missing F-35.
Caption This Picture:
“Well I do declare, what can you possibly mean by ‘an American negro has trespassed across our border’? I reckon this behavior is most unacceptable. Now bring me another mint julep, and let’s make sure this here boy don’t think he is going to be living in high cotton.”
Another story of how the dictatorial Korean governments of Park Chung Hee, Chun Doo Hwan, Roh Tae Woo, etc, stole children from their mothers and sold them abroad for money.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/17/world/asia/south-korea-adoption.html
I’m not sure you read the article. Money may have been a factor in some cases, but it wasn’t the only factor and I doubt it was the main factor. The likely main factors appears to be a desire to remove impure children. Consider how abortion in Korea was illegal and difficult to get until 2021. That’s a big impure population.
Putting the kids up for adoption was a widespread cultural attitude getting reflected in government policy rather the government policy imposing it on the people. Were some of the children stolen? I don’t know, but
would be a rather convenient lie when confronted with an unexpected guilty past showing up on your front door…
I also must say, all those Meeky Woo Flippen types… well it’s probably best they were raised outside of Korea. Probably best if they stay outside of Korea.
Typical leftist caught on tape: https://comments.whatfinger.com/2023/09/17/on-december-18-2020-democrat-pedophile-peter-nygard-was-secretly-recorded/
Conspiracy theories about the missing F35 are pretty funny.
Never seen this level of public interest/scrutiny over a missing plane.
Glad they didn’t publish his (or her?) name.
Liz, conspracy theories are quite reasonable in this case.
To the average guy on the street, something seems wrong about a pilot ejecting from an aircraft that is functional enough to keep flying for such a long distance that it cannot be found.
The expectation is the pilot would point it somewhere safe and ride it out a bit closer to the end.
It doesn’t help that the transponder was shut off.
The most simple explanation is something happened that panicked the pilot (and also shut off the transponder) and he ejected long before he needed to.
But this is 2023 and a case can also be made that some poorly-vetted diversity hire pilot got in a hissy-fit becasue of misgendering and decided the best way to punish everyone was to shut off the transponder and eject from a perfectly good aircraft.
The current level of evidence supports both of these outcomes. The inability of the government to ask the pilot what happened and report his reasonable explanation within hours, tips the balance towards conspiracy.
It doesn’t help that a lot of stuff with government involvement over the last few years has turned out to be due to the conspiracy theory while the reasonable explanation turned out to be a complete lie.
While I might laugh at a conspiracy theory involving aliens or the Jews (or not), I would certainly entertain one based on intentional mismanagement, grossly misguided priorities, or outrageous incompetance, leading to this situation, followed by a delay to manufacture a thin coverstory that satistfies the ignorant and the dumb.
Let’s see what the official explanation turns out to be.
With your years of experience, what is your best guess?
CH, I think it could have been any number of reasons.
The transponder might’ve been off due to an electrical problem, or it might not have been on in the first place. Often when fighters fly together as a unit, only the lead has the transponder on (the FAA prefers it that way, fewer signals).
There’s not enough information available and the media accounts are seldom accurate this early on (sometimes they wildly inaccurate). We don’t really know the condition of the pilot at the moment either.
It might have been a bird strike or fire for all we know.
One reason why autopilot would be employed: if something was going wrong and the pilot was trying to troubleshoot (looking through check lists and so forth) he might’ve turned it on (perhaps forgot to turn it off during the excitement).
Planes have been known to fly off by themselves after an ejection even when the plane was in an uncontrolled spin.
Sometimes just the force of the ejection takes the plane out of the spin, and sometimes the plane rights itself (the F16 has an automatic ground collision avoidance system, the F35 probably does as well).
There was some suggestion the plane ejected the pilot automatically. Anything is possible, but it’s not terribly likely. I don’t think the USAF F35 has an auto eject system but if the marine version has it, that would make it more likely.
Per the pilot, we don’t really know if he is in any condition to talk yet. And then, he might only talk in debriefing while they try to noodle on what caused the issue (whatever the issue might be). It would be extremely unusual for a public statement from the pilot at least until the investigation is over…I don’t think I’ve ever heard one this soon. Of course, in the past I didn’t pay much attention unless I knew the people involved. But it is true as far as I can recall.
Just to add,
There is a lot of politics involved with the F35, I don’t think any pilot would eject for frivolous reasons. There was a big reason, we just don’t know. But during the early years with the F22, the initial cadre pilots were told to try to get it into an uncontrolled spin to test and see what it could do. The engineers believed it couldn’t get into an uncontrolled spin. Well…one of the pilots did it, and after that his career was over (though he recovered it before it crashed, so no accident to investigate). TPTB aren’t pleased with bad press, and I’ve never seen this level of scrutiny over a plane crash.
The memes though.
Have to say the memes are awesome. LOL
Liz, that is assuming an F-35 can beat an F-15.
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/kadenas-f-15-driver-says-the-eagle-can-beat-the-f-35a-in-dogfights/amp/
I have no opinion on this, and a F-15 pilot is not an unbiased source, but I remember Back in the Day, the F-4 was beating the newer jets simply because F-4 pilots knew their jet and the other pilots were still flying as if they were flying F-4s.
You likely have better insight into this than my third-hand knowledge.
I don’t know much about the capabilities of the F35 versus F15, CH.
There is something to skill level, familiarity with the jet, and all that.
Also there’s a thing called “fighting the Nellis war”…which is a way of saying the performance is different when the danger is real versus simulated. Also, our pilots don’t have the level of training (number of training hours) they once had. Training is expensive, and instructors are scarce.
Side note: Just read an article claiming the weather caused the crash. First thing that stood out to me was a statement from the pilot (Mike confirms that in all the crashes/ejections he has seen they don’t interview the pilot right after). Twitter community notes confirmed it was the wingman…he was referring to why he lost sight of the fighter when it went down. Protocol is to stay with the downed pilot anyway (my Dad once lost a friend who bailed out of a plane that had been shot, into a body of water. He kept an eye on the guy until a rescue plane arrived…Dad was doing test patterns around him and running out of fuel. They said they saw the guy, so he headed back. Then they lost sight of him and he drowned. Mike always remembered that story and never abandoned a downed pilot until the rescuers were actually there with the pilot)
One more post on this…sorry, just read a little more information that wasn’t available before.
Apparently that model of the F35 (Marine version) does have auto eject. Which is interesting. However, reading further I don’t think it was a malfunction because…
there is a minimum altitude where it is considered safe for a fighter pilot to eject. After that, the accident investigation board might question the pilot’s judgment.
It appears (unlike the first reports) he ejected at 1000 feet…which is quite low, and might be (ironically) late. Theoretically the ejection system works even on the ground but they don’t like a pilot to wait that long if there is reason to eject they want them to do it earlier (parachute might not function correctly, and so forth…a lot can go wrong with a late ejection).
From the 1980 B-52 “Dash One” (technical manual);