ROK Drop Open Thread – December 16, 2023

Well, it seems that Trump intends to make a deal with Kim Jongeun if he becomes President again.

Donald Trump is considering a plan to let North Korea keep its nuclear weapons and offer its regime financial incentives to stop making new bombs, according to three people briefed on his thinking.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/13/trump-north-korea-nuclear-weapons-plan-00131469

The irony of this situation is that under Biden there were no deals with North Korea and there were plenty of joint ROK-US military exercises for the viewing pleasure of @GIKorea and the Setnaffarians.

If Trump becomes President, there will be a deal where North Korea keeps its nukes while getting cash and lifting of sanctions, which GIKorea and the Setnaffarians are opposed to.

That is in addition to the reduction of USFK and the joint military exercises which will certainly make a bad day worse for GI Korea and the Setnaffarians.

Not only that Yoon will become a laughingstock and be left out of any dealings between Trump and Kim, which will certainly be a loss for S. Korea since South Korean companies won’t be able to participate in any business dealings with a newly opened North Korea.

Certainly shows that GIKorea, the Setnaffarians and their beloved Yoon are dumb and short-sighted.

Maybe setnaffa, CH, and the other Setnaffarians should vote for Biden and hope he gets elected. 😀

Well at least Trump realizes the reality. Whether the world allows NK to keep their nukes or not, it doesn’t matter. North Korea will keep their nuke programs, nobody is going to change that. That’s the reality. It is how we deal with that reality that matters the most. Trump will negotiate with North Korea, as well as China, to get more US economic benefits. This is not necessarily bad in my opinion, to sign the peace treaty, and finally lift sanctions on North Korea. The peace dividend will benefit everyone.

Then people will raise questions about worsening geographic conditions with South Korea’s enemies now given wider birth after Trump gets elected. But I have a different view on this.

It is up to South Korea to fight for its interests instead of depending on the US. That means SK gaining control of its military and stopping overestimating US promises of a nuclear defense shield which is non-existent in reality. The US has a very poor track record. Just look at how the US made promises to Ukraine convincing them to de-nuclearize after the Cold War, in return for protection. We all know what happened after Ukraine gave into US pressures. Ukraine today would not be in the position that they are in today if it had kept its nuclear weapons. Now after 2 years of conflict, Ukraine is being dropped and kicked aside by the US, as there is no more financial and military support coming from the US. Ukraine is now doomed because it can’t defend itself. Let this be a lesson to South Korea and others who are not Israel.

The US is in no shape and neither does it have the morals nor the will to intervene in foreign military conflicts unless foreign conflicts directly affect its energy needs. It is up to each country to defend themselves – something that dumb Yoon thing and its rightwing cronies have yet to realize. These stupid idiots think the US support will be there forever. This is what endangers South Korea the most – the incompetence from within.

Only 1 in 4 of Korean women in their 20s say they want to marry.

https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20231215000719

OK. Fair enough. But the number of Korean men in their 20s who want to marry is equally low. So this is a colossal cultural shift.

The article seems to be trying to subtly convince the readers that Korean women don’t want to marry Korean men anymore and that Korean men are now doomed. Even if that’s true (which is not), Korean men have far more options these days, as a flood of foreign women not just from Japan or the rest of Asia, but also foreign women from everywhere from Latin America, to Europe, to North America, and even Middle East are crooning for young Korean men. If Korean men in their 20s want to marry, they don’t have to do too much to find women from foreign countries. The pool of women to draw from to court, date, and marry is 200 times bigger.

The best thing about tbe chinabots is their absolute inability to summarize.

It proves they don’t have a grasp on the subject, the language, or their audience.

“Then I have a question about this. With such a horrible justice system, how has South Korea kept its streets safe for walking alone at night without getting robbed or hassled by drugged-out homeless panhandlers?”

If you were a real Korean, you would know the answer to that question.

Also, the Korean justice system is horrible.

Well, it seems that Trump intends to make a deal with Kim Jongeun if he becomes President again.

No worries, that won’t happen. Stock market at record highs, inflation coming down, unemployment down, gas prices down, consumers spending that money, and then, the (sane) majority of voters realize that while Biden is old and not the perfect choice, he’s done good and that voting for deranged criminal Trump would be a disaster for the US.

Stephen, do you shop at the grocery store?
I’m sure the commissary is still relatively cheap, but out in the economy it is still crushingly expensive to buy pretty much anything.
Yeah, gas is down some at the moment. For the last 2 years it has been almost twice what it was 3 years ago. Food on the grocery shelves has doubled in 2 years. We’ve stopped going to restaurants for the most part (more than doubled, in some cases…because the businesses must pay double the food bill plus higher rent and much higher salaries all before attempting to get any profit).
Last month’s heat bill (natural gas) was twice the year before. Almost identical fuel usage when I compared last year’s numbers.
People have short term memories, but not that short term. They can remember food has doubled in a couple of years even if it goes down 10 percent in a couple of months (which I haven’t noticed).

Candidly, I don’t think Trump will win. I think his candidacy makes it more likely we’ll get another 4 years of Biden. But please don’t pretend it’s because the economy isn’t terrible. Or that Biden’s presidency is anything but destructive and incompetent on every level.

I think at the end of the day too many people view Trump the way I see Hillary (and the Clinton crime family in general).
I wouldn’t vote for Hillary under any circumstances.
(the difference is I can cite a very long list of concrete reasons, not hoax based ones…but at the end of the day it doesn’t matter the motivation the nation is filled with people who will never ever support Trump)

On a level playing field, Trump would win.

He is polling over Biden even in polls that are designed to shape opinion rather than report it.

(He beat Hillary because they believed their own polls and didn’t cheat enough.)

But it is unlikely (but not impossible) he will become president.

If they can’t lawfare him (which seems to be increasing his popularity), they will kill him.

Too many powerful people will lose their power in Trump’s America First environment.

I think 4 more years of Biden would be great.

Americans deserve what they accept.

@GIKorea thanks for the heads up on my imposter.

Yoon is pretty much a lame duck president now.

Former prosecutor seeing out the year by trotting around the global salon fueled by poktanju on the taxpayer dime.

Anyone else seen Yoon’s trot version of Gangnam Style; complete with ride ’em cowboy dance moves?

I also don’t believe it is the work of CH, Tech Sergeant Naffa

So even Stephen acknowledges that setnaffa uses sockpuppets.