ROK Drop Open Thread – May 31, 2024

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ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

No matter how you feel about Trump, the guilty verdict on “34 counts”, based on a crime nobody can actually define, is really a turning point in American history.

Even the RINOs who hate Trump will use this as an excuse to use lawfare against their opponents to further their own goals.

Left or right, anybody who cheers this is not thinking it through.

This sword cuts both ways.

…and it will.

Korean Man
Korean Man
5 months ago

So the US criminal court system is a fraud?

This means nothing. He will appeal the ruling, enough to buy him time to run for the office. The Trump religion will mean his religious supporters will still vote for him no matter what. After he takes office, he’ll clean the house including the court, ensuring the guilty ruling will be reversed.

How much do you want to bet?

I want him in the office, I also don’t like the status quo in the Korean peninsula.

Korean Man
Korean Man
5 months ago

By the way, since Trump is now a convicted criminal and a sexual predator he would not be able to enter South Korea.

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

The chinabot’s secret is still safe…

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setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

For the record, I don’t know anyone who regrets not getting the jab.

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setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Fact Check: True

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setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

The left can’t meme.

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ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

“So the US criminal court system is a fraud?”

Fraud isn’t quite the right word.

If you are a petty criminal, it’s not much of a threat.

Weaponized is a better word.

It is weaponized against those who threaten the Deep State¹ and Administrative State²… people like Trump, Assange, etc.

This conviction is legally incorrect and will be overturned on appeal. But a lasting conviction is not the primary goal, because it isnt possible in moat of the American legal system. The goal is election interference by keeping Trump in court instead of the campaign trail and being able to repeat over and over and over, “convicted felon”, “financial fraudster”, “interfered with elections”, etc. As he has been “convicted”, this is not technically fake news. The corrupted media lies by ommission and misrepresentation.

So the most popular presidential candidate (according to current polls, both left and right) is being attacked with a weaponized legal system for a crime that nobody will define. The convictions were based on manufactured, victimless meta-crimes.

This is being done months before the election when Trump should be campaigning and not forced to spend weeks in court.

Let’s see if he is jailed or placed under house arrest. That would be a very bold move by the judge which would likely involve the supreme court in an emergency session.

Better to just yell “convicted fellon” from now until November and hassle him over other nonexistent crimes.

If this isn’t shot down within weeks and everyone involved removed from the legal system, this will become the new political standard for managing elections.

Today, it is against Trump, so the smooth-brains are gleeful because they dont realize it will eventually be against their guy in something equally unjust.

Nobody is winning here.

¹Deep State: This is a catch-all term for those fighting over the direction of America, from bankers to industrialists to 3 letter agencies. The goal is mostly how to transfer wealth to themselves, frequently by controlling the means of wealth transfer. They fight amongst themselves so much it serves as checks and balances… but when an external threat comes along, the unify against it.

²Administrative State: Long ago, America had the spoils system but now there are professional career bureaucrats. They don’t like to solve the problems that keep them in a job and they don’t like to see their agencies get less attention or fewer resources. They will slow-walk any program that threatens them and sabotage the people responsible.

Korean Man
Korean Man
5 months ago

Donald is now a convicted sexual criminal. And that’s a fact, like it or not.

It reminds me of this fellow, remember this guy, ROKDrop people? It’s funny but everyone here was convinced he was a convicted lefty:

He Lost His Job. His Wife Went to Prison. Now He Wants to Take Down South Korea’s President.

Cho Kuk’s rise, fall and comeback has captivated South Korea—a country with a worse political divide than the U.S.

https://www.wsj.com/world/asia/he-lost-his-job-his-wife-went-to-prison-now-he-wants-to-take-down-south-koreas-president-742fe113

SEOUL—Cho Kuk has lived a South Korean version of “House of Cards.” In just a few years, he has been a top presidential aide, a justice minister and the subject of a caustic national scandal—one that landed his wife in prison, ended his daughter’s medical career and left him a felon. Now he is blazing an unlikely new path: a politician plotting revenge.

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Liz
Liz
5 months ago

I don’t know what you’re talking about, CH.
I’m looking forward to getting millions because I’ll swear Biden assaulted me 20 years ago in some location, and sniffed my children (who are also traumatized).
This will take care of my family’s entire retirement (while our currency continues to have value…which it won’t at this rate).

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

The USA kicks China in the Ass. Winston is not a MAGA hat guy; but he has been “red-white-and-blue-pilled” by 10+ years in China and 5 years in the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUWs1EbzWhw

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

“Donald is now a convicted sexual criminal. And that’s a fact, like it or not.”

He is a convicted buisness record falsifier.

If you bring sex into this, you are the pervert.

…actually, you are a pervert anyway.

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Liz
Liz
5 months ago

Think Winston lives in California, IIRC?
California ranks last in the country for starting and running businesses (Colorado, this state, is second to last). Taxes are the most crushing, expenses out of the stratosphere. Most states are far, far better (hard to beat the natural beauty of CA or CO, but the governments are run so poorly it is a tough choice…still better than China of course).

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Winston moved and his videos have alternately implied Arizona, Ohio, and Pennsylvana; but I think he is being cagey to stay away from CCP agents.

Here’s another video of the CCP impact on construction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc4wPOcYEdI

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

“I just find it amazing how many people don’t know what Trump was convicted of”

If they only view left leaning news, how would they know? Every piece of information is intentionally designed to hide the truth. It would be amazing if they DID know, under current circumstances.

Thought this was worth sharing:
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1797117357376114736
(UFC fighter Kevin Holland wins the match, then goes and shakes President Trump’s hand)

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

The “American Dream” is in Asia.

America has intentionally killed free enterprise, unless you are a miltinational able to pay off at all levels… or an uncontrollable illegal alien selling tacos out of your trunk.

Try to open a legitimate small business on a casual budget. You spend FAR more in compliance with government demands than the actual business. These barriers to entry keep workers in the corporate workforce where they belong rather than retaining all benefits of their labor.

Prison for-profit labor is even a bigger scam, as are the policies that maintain this workforce.

Korea WANTS you to do business and they are very helpful at the government office.

The Moon juanta tried hard to kill small business, and the economy has not recovered. In typical leftist/globalist fashion, this is being blamed on Yoon, just as Biden’s disastrous economics will be blamed on Trump.

The leading opposition (globalist) candidate, Lee Jae-myung, has openly stated it is too easy to open a business in Korea. That must be made more difficult and expensive. It’s for your own protection, dontcha know.

But people deserve what they accept.

If Koreans go in that direction, where every coffee shop is a foreign-owned McStarbucks and every resturaunt is a Corporate McNoodle and every corner store is a Mc7-11 selling highly processed food-like products filled with corn syrup and cottonseed oil, it is their choice.

And it probably will be.

Covid taught us most people:
– are stupid, uneducated, and easily influenced
– are passive to the point of self-destruction
– refuse to address their bad life decisions and deal with them by blocking them out, denial, or argrily defending them.
– don’t learn from history, patterns of human behavior, their own mistakes

Liz
Liz
5 months ago

We tried to open a small business here…at least, we were at the stage where we were trying to rent a property. After over a year watching the vagrants taking over downtown Denver, couple with astronomical rental fees, we gave up. I have no idea how anyone stays in business in Denver now.
To give you some idea of how ridiculous the commercial property is for small businesses, one of the three “contenders” was a 1700 square foot place for 8800 a month. That wasn’t even vagrant free. The mall next door to it had to employ private security for individual stores not just the mall proper, but each store had its own private security…which did basically nothing to curb theft anyway.
You have to sell an awful lot of a product just to cover the rent (and there wasn’t a cap there, taxes might increase) even if you didn’t have to pay staff, or utilities, or anything else. This is why you go to get a frozen yogurt and it costs 15 dollars for one large serving. This is unsustainable.
We’re not opening that business, though it cost us quite a bit to close out it is better than owning a money pit.
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Liz
Liz
5 months ago

This.

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Korean Man
Korean Man
5 months ago

The interview with the most popular American in South Korea at this time (who is also a Trump appointee candidate), Elbridge Colby:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNmDyGfD2Nw&ab_channel=%EA%B9%80%EC%A7%80%EC%9C%A4%EC%9D%98%EC%A7%80%EC%8B%9DPlay

So why is he so popular? Because South Koreans see him as a realistic breath of fresh air, who’s not afraid of loosening the leash and muzzle placed on South Korea.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

The disorder being allowed by all levels of government is quite shocking… unpunished petty crime, open drug use, a nuisance class destroying society and commerce, etc.

This is so widespread, from the federal government to local government, and so completely undesirable and illogical, the only explanation is a conspiracy.

Does this conspiracy extend to the voters? Are they too dumb to vote this stuff out? Or is part of the conspiracy that you aren’t allowed to run for office if your plan is to stop the madness, so voters never get a real choice?

Whatver the case, it is irrational in every way.

But people deserve what they accept.

Which leads to my theory, developed after watching covid, that most people aren’t really fully human, as judged by cognative ability and behavior patterns.

Ghetto stuff is supposed to stay in the ghetto with the ghetto people. Now, it is moving out of the ghetto but nobody seems to mind.

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

CH, it’s important to remember that Democrats now are committed to Clowerd-Piven.

They may not fully understand what they’re doing; but they support the destruction of what was.

Unfortunately, it is likely that American voters are, collectively, no less lemming-like.

We’ll see.

The good news for me is that by 2028, they probably won’t be finished, as they’re gormless, feckless, and pusillanimous. So I will likely have a shot at getting safely set up away from the zombie hordes when the food deliveries to the cities stop.

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ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

Them dadgum city skickers think food comes from the store, water comes from the tap, electricty comes from the plug, data comes from the cable, and for a percentage of them, money comes from the government.

They are all going to be disappointed when they learn this is the last step in a fragile supply chain.

They will be more disappointed when they escape to the country and find the local residents are not at all intetested in accomodating people with the poor attitudes and values that establiahed the conditions which required them to flee the cities.

The local residents will be armed and working as a team.

This happened already in my friend’s town when a few busloads of BLM showed up at the courthouse and were greeted by hudreds of citizens, many of which were respectfully holding black rifles.

BLM walked around the courthouse once and got back on the bus.

This is actually on YouTube, but certainly didn’t get much play in the news.

Korean Person
Korean Person
5 months ago

I just find it amazing how many people don’t know what Trump was convicted of

So even desperately wants Trump to become President.

Well, that’s his choice.

I hope he’s prepared for the day when the USFK is withdrawn from Korea for good.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

Korean Person, you are ineffective at causing disorder.

Your concepts are illogical, senseless, inconsistent, and chaotic

This works for government, as demonstrated by the foundation of the Soviet Union, as explained in 1984, and as being done by the current American leadership, because it encourages people to adopt any replacement system that promises order. That system is already prepared and ready to serve as soon as the public is ready. In many ways, it will be worse than the dusorder.

But this doesn’t work for you because you have no power to force anything upon anyone.

Clever, persuasive talk would be a better tactic, but again, you have nothing to sell.

Nobody cares what you think of Trump or USFK because you have never said anything insightful, or even truthful, to make anyone care.

And just remeber life is like a box of chocolates.

It doesn’t last long for fat people.

GrayBlack
GrayBlack
5 months ago

The trash filled balloons point to a regime so bankrupted, both ideologically and monetary, that they can’t produce and send even the most basic of propaganda.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

“The trash filled balloons point to a regime so bankrupted, both ideologically and monetary, that they can’t produce and send even the most basic of propaganda.”

Not sure yet.

It is insulting, it has South Korea worked up, it is a great morale-boosting teambuilding excercise for everyone involved, and it costs essentially nothing.

And there is no proportionate response and no risk of true escalation.

In that way, it is a pretty perfect provocation.

Korean Man
Korean Man
5 months ago

 I just pointed out facts.

OK, let me test you.

Question: Has Trump ever lied about anything?

Your factual answer is?

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

GI, the bots regularly fail the Turing test.

But they do seem to have a gay fascination for old, rich, white guys*…

If they could sober up long enough to hold a conversation and count change back from a dollar, CH might be able to hire them for his new place in Rangoon.

* NTTAWWT

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

“If they could sober up long enough to hold a conversation and count change back from a dollar, CH might be able to hire them for his new place in Rangoon.”

Workers aren’t allowed to touch the money or talk to customers.

That rule is pretty standard in a BJ bar.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/covid-vaccines-may-have-helped-fuel-rise-in-excess-deaths/ar-BB1nAbeD?ocid=BingNewsSerp

I wonder how this made it past the censors.

Scientists dare not draw any conclusions from even the most obvious numbers. It is alway, “this suggests the need for further study,” even when the situation is pretty obvious.

Deaths went up after the Safe & Effective vaccine was introduced even though:

– the strain when vaccines were introduced was much more mild than the strain before
– those at highest risk of dying were already disproportionately dead
– there is a clear correlation between vaccine uptake and excess mortality by nation… which is explained away by… yes… climate change

I could talk about this every day because:
– I hope, when they try to pull this kind of thing again, my frequent reminders make people more aware and skeptical, though my faith in humanity is very, very low, as they won’t even acknowledge anything against their personal fantasy narrative, let alone rationally discuss it.
– All the people who wanted to put me into a camp because I wouldn’t allow their mental illness into my life need to be reminded their poor life choice has likely increased their chances for a shorter and less-healthy life. I very much hope this causes them stress.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

So, Trump is a “convicted felon with 34 felony convictions for felonies,” as I have heard over and over.

For you never-Trumpers, can anyone explain his crime? Do this sincerely and not as a series of meaningless talking points.

Bonus: You can even look it up.

This is one of those tests like asking the Queers for Palistine, “What river and what sea?”

You can tell who is engaged in the situation as a cognative person and who is something in the form of a human just doing what they are programmed to do.

Stephen
Stephen
5 months ago

New Jersey welcomes Andy Kim as its next senator.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

“New Jersey welcomes Andy Kim as its next senator.”

I remember Andy back when he became a representative.

Let’s see if the internet can say it in a less biased way than I want to.

“The race was considered too close to call on election night, but the next night, an influx of absentee ballots in Burlington County, home to the majority of the district’s voters, gave Kim a 2,500-vote lead, prompting him to declare victory.[18] MacArthur conceded eight days later.[19] With a margin of victory of fewer than 4,000 votes, or slightly over 1% of votes cast, this was New Jersey’s closest congressional race.[3][20][21] ”

It is almost as if there is a pattern of:

– count the votes and see how many the Democrat is losing by
– get an influx of ballots that just happens to push the Democrat slightly ahead
– welcome your new Democrat overlord

This pattern never goes the other way.

Just like a real biologist says, “What do you mean you thought the vaccine would be 100% effective because you didn’t know viruses mutate,” a real statician looks at election numbers and says, “Impossible. One hundred percent fully impossible. Now, let me count the ways.”

Now try explaining this to Americans too stupid to realize their children’s healthcare is more important than teaching intersectional colonial genderqueer theory to Islamic tribesmen.

Good for Andy. Keep supporting the winning team with the winning programs that keep Americans winning!

“Kim voted with President Joe Biden’s stated position 100% of the time in the 117th Congress, according to a FiveThirtyEight analysis.”

Anybody who would celebrate a person like this as their representative is too stupid to live.

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

From AoSHq this morning:

China’s internet is disappearing. (New York Times archive site, https://archive.is/jz774)

One third of the Chinese web has shut down since 2017, and almost everything published online in the country between 1995 and 2005 is simply gone.

Even major natural events like the 2008 Sichuan earthquake are being progressively erased.

In the West, the internet is forever. Everything is archived, particularly things we might wish to be forgotten. When Ragtag Archive – more than a petabyte of vtuber streams, much of it from channels now closed – was itself facing closure last year, a swarm of volunteers came together to preserve it.

Less so in China.

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

Xi is aiming for Year Zero again. I wonder how many Chinese he will kill? Mao had between 60 and 90 Million on his butcher’s bill…

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Liz
Liz
5 months ago

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2024/06/03/command-senior-chief-convicted-for-unauthorized-wi-fi-on-her-ship/
Command senior chief convicted for unauthorized Wi-Fi on her ship

“Then-Command Senior Chief Grisel Marrero was court-martialed, convicted and reduced in rank to E-7 in March for setting up an unauthorized Wi-Fi system aboard the littoral combat ship Manchester.”
(not enough facepalms in the world for this one)

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
5 months ago

Trump is a convicted felon convicted on 34 felony counts of felonies because he is a felon. Fellony.

…or not.

Actually, he is not a convicted felon.

And he won’t be until the judge makes a ruling, likely at the June 11th sentencing.

But there is a potential for some heads to explode between now and then.

It turns out, a lot of legal professionals from all parties are not terribly happy that there were legal manipulations to use novel legal theories to charge the most popular presidential candidate for unclear crimes based on even more unclear crimes right before the election… and all orchestrated and decided by people from the other political party and managed by a prosecutor who ran on “getting Trump” while everyone involved had communications with the opposing candidate in the White House.

While some may feel glee on a personal level that the process is the punishment, they are professional enough to detest this injustice and smart enough to know this will eventually be used against them.

Here is what is going to happen.

A higher court, with concern for the American legal and election system, is going to put a stop to all this until after the election.

The media will keep hinting at “convicted felon” and the neverTrumpers will keep saying it… but like much of what lefties say, it will not be true.

And then they will be angry and disappointed when reality doesn’t align with their fantasy.

And it will be glorious.

setnaffa
setnaffa
5 months ago

I think 7 years cancer-free is worth a celebration. Had one planned; but my neighbor caught the coof so our families will get together for Independence Day.

Last edited 5 months ago by setnaffa
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