ROK Drop Open Thread – July 19, 2024

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GrayBlack
GrayBlack
1 month ago

Hey GIKorea,

Imagine for a moment the mayor/governor/whatever of the community you live in for years run a propaganda campaign about how you’re a threat to the community and the most terrible person alive. They intentionally cut the local police department budget and redirect remaining resources away from your street. They just so happen to to jam the PD full of diversity hires who aren’t very good at the job. They just so happen to persuade the DA to not prosecute theft and “crimes of convenience”.

So when a bulldozer coincidentally just happens to be left unsecured on your street during road construction, and someone just so happens to take a joy ride, and the police just happen to be extremely and unreasonably slow to react to reports of a stolen bulldozer, and that someone just so happens to demolish your house…

I’m sure you’d agree it’s purely incompetence and had nothing to do with malice whatsoever.

Right?

Stephen
Stephen
1 month ago

Yoon Seok-yeol gave a speech on how it was his dream that the peninsula will be united in his life time.
“… and I am so confident that the Korean Peninsula will be reunited that last night, I had a dream that I was in Pyongyang with my staff with Kim Jong-eun and his flunkies, and the soju was flowing and we were yukking away and I told a joke that after reunfiication finally the lights would come on all over Korea.

After so much soju, I had to go to the bathroom and Kim Jong-eun clumped in after me in his Cuban heels.

Kim Jong-eun waddled up to me, redder in the face than a Chinrese flag and yelled: I don’t appreciate you telling jokes about my kingdom! I’m going to teach you a lesson!” And he pulled out a razor, waving it in my face.
The only thing that saved me was, he couldn’t find a place to plug it in.”

setnaffa
setnaffa
1 month ago

“Covid is a pandemic of the unvaccinated”, said the person who just got Covid for the 3rd time after getting 6 Covid shots.

Flyingsword
Flyingsword
1 month ago

Taking the Deep State side again I see.

Stephen
Stephen
1 month ago

“In from Japan…https://www.independentsentinel.com/japanese-scientists-covid-shots-can-cause-fatal-heart-failure/”

LOL

Japanese scientists have probably proven that COVID-19 shots are causing fatal cases of heart failure to surge throughout the globe.”

If it’s on the internet, it must be true, right?

Liz
Liz
1 month ago

The original study can be found here: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ehf2.14924 

“Cases of acute necrotizing eosinophilic myocarditis, acute eosinophilic myocarditis and fulminant giant cell myocarditis following the SARS-CoV-2 vaccination have been reported.14 Therefore, these facts suggest heterogeneous mechanisms for COVID-19 VAMs. Further detailed histological analyses of each clinical phenotype and vaccine type are required.”
If you follow the breadcrumbs and click on 14 it is linked to other studies. No, it is not a common thing. But cost to gains wise most of these individuals were extremely low risk, and the “vaccine” seems to offer limited if any benefit that would favor taking that risk, especially for healthy individuals.
(trigger warning: personal anecdote below)

I recently rescued a pup from the shelter. She had her first serious of vaccinations of course. De-worming, et al. She was on the street for a while. At her first vet exam they gave her a couple more vaccines, told me she got the rabies vaccine at too young an age but seemed to think it did not matter. The leptospirosis vaccine is not obligatory, but recommended. Since I live at 9600 feet up, it is basically non-existent up here but we do like to go to dog parks in the Denver area, where she might drink from puddles (a potential source of infection). I looked up the odds of her getting lepto in Denver and there were about (IIRC) 96 cases in a couple of years. Those odds aren’t terrible, especially since she is up here 99.9 percent of the time.

On the other hand…I have two neighbors, one on each side across the street, who had dogs that contracted encephalitis following the administration of the lepto vaccine. One dog had to be put down after about 6 months of extreme expense and pain for the dog (did you know there are dog neurologists?). It didn’t live to be two. The other owner only knew what was happening because the first one told her what to watch for in her dog (stiff neck issues seem to be a first sign). With that previous information she paid careful attention after administration of the lepto vaccine. Her dog still became very ill, but lived (a bit smaller and likely dumber than she would have been, but alive). That first owner was told outright there had been some problems with the lepto vaccine and they were seeing cases of encephalopathy (this was helpfully told to her AFTER her dog became deathly ill from it). I look online and there is some information about that…a couple of the serial numbers were pulled (ostensibly after “one dog died”). Apparently what happened to my direct neighbors (I don’t have many…to put this into perspective there are probably 30 total dogs in a 10 mile radius here) is extremely rare, I am “assured”. Yet my neighbors are not a part of any database, just an undocumented statistic. I’m not going to give her the vaccine, unless it is mandated at which point I might have to.

Liz
Liz
1 month ago

I think it is pretty obvious now that covid numbers for hospitalization have been carefully tracked (perhaps even inflated, at least for a time). That would be standard.
On the other hand, heart issues as a potential result of the covid vaccine do not seem to have been tracked so carefully. How do I know? My spouse just had a heart ablation from an arrhythmia. We think it was covid, not the vaccine. But of the 5 doctors he went to in relation to his heart issue, not a single one asked his covid vaccination status.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
1 month ago

If people can’t admit to themselves that a demographic with ZERO risk from covid was forced into a medical experiment that did not have zero risk, they are too stupid to have a conversation with.

In normal circumstances, where someone is killed against their will that wouldn’t normally die, it would be considred murder.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
1 month ago

Here is something to consider.

Most of the information in media coming out about the attempted assasination follows the pattern of:

– witness makes an observation to local or independent news, that can’t be ignored

– FBI leaks information that guides this statement in a misleading direction

– media runs with the FBI leak

– misleading news becomes the source for other media

– lie is reported over and over until people accept it.

Let’s look at an example.

One of the sniper teams protecting Trump was inside rather than on the rooftop overlooking the situation. The media has reported over and over that they were in the building that the shooter was on top of.

Haha! That is incompetent.

But this makes no sense. Why would they be in a ground floor building with no view of Trump? Have we been mislead as to what building they were in?

Now, witnesses are insisting the sniper team was seen through the open window of the two story building that gave a clear view of Trump, the crowd, and the area.

This also gave a clear view of the shooter on the rooftop for over 20 minutes.

As further proof, the angle of the photo released of the shooter when he was acting suspiciously is not from the first floor. It is from a 2nd floor of him sitting on a low concrete wall that is under the second floor windows.

Consider that as we move on.

The largest organization that does criminal forensic sound analysis assembled all videos, measured signatures, amplitudes and time delays, and said there were three distinct sources of shots, even though the public had been led to believe there were two.

The official response was, oh, yes, there were actually three afterall. The shooter, the sniper team behind Trump, and “and an unnamed member of the local police sniper team”.

So far, the story is still witness accounts that can’t be ignored followed by government responses and “leaks” that guide the new information away from unpleasant conclusions.

Missing are details that would make it easy to conclude if the new information is important to better understanding what happened. In this case, a clear timeline showing who was shooting and when.

As we have seen in the past, when information supports the official narrative, it scrolls 24/7 on the bottom of CNN. When it does not, the spin remains but the details are missing.

Others have noticed this.

This leads to theories that maybe the shot that hit Trump didn’t come from the kid on the roof, but came from the 2nd floor of the building next to him.

The most interesting part of this is that the bullet missing his brain and hitting his ear when Trump turned his head is better explained by the angle of the 2nd floor windows on the left than the shooter on the far right.

These valid theories that require more investigation are quickly diluted by intentionally released and heavily reported silly theories.

For those of you smart enough to recognize patterns, it is covid all over again.

“Should we be giving this experimental vaccine made with experimental technology to pregnant women just a few months after its development?”

“Ohhhh, so you are one of those 5G nanoparticle people.”

While those in denial really want to believe that a conspiracy to assasinate the president is not possible due to the number of people involved, everything we have seen so far can be explained away with a high level conspiracy arranging an understaffed B Team of inexperience, incompetence, and apathy, and then relying on àss covering and fear of whistleblowing to ensure nobody involved talks too much about the highly unusual situation.

And this was a highly unusual situation.

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Stephen
Stephen
1 month ago

The USA is a republic not a democracy.

What will be interesting is which governor or senator is selected as the running mate for Harris.

Coverage of that process will take the wind out of Trump’s faltering sails.

Presidential Debate:

Trump: whine, whine, whine, me, me, me, me and Kim, me and Vlad, me and Ivanka, whine, whine, whine.

Harris: Stop your whining! This election is about the future of the American people not a wedding speech for you and your partners Vlad and Kim.

Smokes
Smokes
1 month ago

North Korea Opens Doors: 140 Japanese Students Set for Historic Visit!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-opens-doors-140-japanese-students-set-for-historic-visit/ar-BB1qpwfa?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=57dd570248104403896475c84d6f0a4e&ei=18

In other news hostage negotiation teams are holding unplanned training… you know… JIC.

(Sup to the OG Droppers I see in here… GI, Set, Sword, Liz, CH)

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
1 month ago

“The USA is a republic not a democracy.”

When I hear this line trotted out, I know I am dealing with the same people who say Safe & Effective because they heard it on TV and they repeat the Science to sound smart.

The USA is a republic. But in a republic, there is no obligation to hold elections. So America is also a representative democracy. Further, America is occasionally a direct democracy with such things as ballot initiatives.

File “America is a republic” away with “reentry is hot because of air friction” and “you have 5 senses”.

“What will be interesting is which governor or senator is selected as the running mate for Harris.

Coverage of that process will take the wind out of Trump’s faltering sails.”

I hope you are just spewing propaganda and you aren’t really lying to yourself with this magnatude. Tell us more about how the sails are faltering.

“Presidential Debate:

Trump: whine, whine, whine, me, me, me, me and Kim, me and Vlad, me and Ivanka, whine, whine, whine.

Harris: Stop your whining! This election is about the future of the American people not a wedding speech for you and your partners Vlad and Kim.”

Like Biden, who was set up for complete failure in the debate by people who knew exactly what would happen, Kamala is also fully incapable of debating Trump. The evidence would be every interview she has ever done. Her dysfunction is different from Biden, but nearly equal in its handicap.

The Democrats have failed to fully demonize Trump. They have failed to lawfare him away. They have failed to kill him. There are too many people watching to repeat the 2020 steal (which is clear statistically, but not to the average uneducated American like those who will argue).

The Democrats have likely admitted to themselves that Trump will be president.

The new strategy will be to:

– Biden dies… covid would be the death of choice to force new life into vaccines

– Kamala is sworn in as the first minority woman president… Go Democrats… to give her a tiny incumbent advantage

– Trump wins by a landslide anyway

– Democrats unhook the chains on BLM, Antifa, etc. Deep State unhooks the chains on “terrorists”, etc. The Administrative State slow walks all valid solutions. The media blames Trump for all problems.

– America burns… intentionally

– America is forced into a terrible-but-necessary world war.

Screenshot this.

Liz
Liz
1 month ago

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-f18-woman-air-to-air-victory/

Completely changing the subject. Or maybe not…
She shoots down a drone and this counts as an air to air “kill”?
There is a squadron of F15 pilots in Jordan right now that shot down hundreds of drones, quite recently (yes, hundreds).
Does that make them all like…deca-aces?

Liz
Liz
1 month ago

I should add, not trying to cast aspersions on the female fighter pilot.
That is insanely cool, for sure.
Just…there should be some context there.

setnaffa
setnaffa
1 month ago

Good point, . They gush like that and that does more to demean women than anything else I’ve seen.

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CH, I have acquaintances with pickups and backhoes who seemingly long for a “BLM/Antifa let loose” scenario…

There is a lot of empty land and new construction that could hide the “missing protestors”. And I will not be involved. No guns, no farming tools, no need to prove anything.

Folks should not underestimate how much the general public got ticked off by the attempt on Trump.

setnaffa
setnaffa
1 month ago

Glad to see you @Smokes!!

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
1 month ago

Hey, Smokes. You missed a lot of smack talking.

Setnaffa, the problem with this idea is when BLM and Antifa pukes with nothing to lose go out and attack civilization, our corrupt government does nothing.

When some hardworking guy defends himself against a leftist mob that came to him, they take his backhoe.

Consistent with history, the government gives the middle class a choice to accept the disorder or lose everything. Everyone keeps their head down and hopes for freedom through conpliance. Then, one day, it is too late, and the disorder is too big to fight against while everything is taken from them anyway.

There is a reason early American history is being rewritten to emphasize colonizers instead of patriots fighting oppressors.

Liz
Liz
1 month ago

Good to see you, Smokes!!

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
1 month ago

Just another reminder you have been lied to.

You will continue to allow this if you accept the completely irrational spin that people guarding Trump were in the same one-story building the shooter was on.

Of course they were not.

They were on the second floor where they had a better view.

Yet, with the windows open, they neither saw the shooter nor did they hear everyone yelling about him.

Just how that could be is the question nobody is asking.

But they might.

Because of so many witnesses seeing a sniper team on the second floor, it now has to be acknowledged. So now it is being reported.

And the picture from the second floor of the shooter acting suspiciously has now gone from not talking about it… to claiming not to know where it came from… to acknowledging it was taken by the concrete wall under the second floor window.

Now that you know you have been lied to so you won’t ask reasonable questions, what is your plan? Keep taking the misinformation enema? Start looking into it and forming your own opinions?

Something like the covid death of Biden and the quick swearing in of Kamala as the first woman president is going to take all the attention away from this investigation…

…and it has to happen quickly, as the official narrative is running out of modifications that can be made on it and still keep it rational enough for the average dummy to still lie to himself that it is valid.

Also, if anyone disagrees with my information or my conclusion, please supply your own ideas in a rational way.

And if you agree, perhaps add some observations of your own.

Silence is considered acceptance by everyone who is against you. Like roaches run from the light, they move away when you get noisy.

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ChickenHead
ChickenHead
1 month ago

Here is a bonus sniper team view of the shooter’s position.

Honest Question: What would you need to be presented with to change your mind from believing there was just dysfunctional incompetence in every aspect of this operation to this being intentionally arranged at some level?

Coming Soon: What if someone leaked cellphone information that not only gave the shooter’s location but also flagged cellphones that were nearby and then made a list of cellphones he had repeated contact with. What if the most interesting of these were also tracked. Would there be anything interesting?

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Hot Stuff x
Hot Stuff x
1 month ago

Regarding the Secret Service’s performance the day of the Trump assassination attempt, I believe Hanlon’s Razor applies: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Liz
Liz
1 month ago

The clothes have no emperor.
(Heard that one today.
Thought it was funny)

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
1 month ago

Hot Stuff, in many cases I would agree.

In this case, EVERYONE was oddly incompetent.

Anyone that incompetent would have never made it through the academy. They would not be able to function in their daily job without everyone noticing.

It is becoming increasingly clear an insufficient number of the most incompetent and inexperienced people were intentionally chosen, intentionally given misguidance or no guidance, and those at the top intentionally avoided all the standard practices.

Further, when it was clear to everyone there was some sort of situation requiring attention, Trump was intentionally allowed to go on stage before it was resolved.

Amazingly, all the radio traffic at this time was mysteriously lost or not recorded… not unlike the video around Epstien’s cell… so the SS can get by with saying “Nobody told us anything.”

Now, we find there were many, many chances to see the shooter and stop him, or if nobody was sure, stop Trump until the situation was understood. After a bunch of lies, it turns out there was a sniper team in a window that could see the shooter getting into position.

The story changes as the constant stream of lies are exposed.

And this only scratches the surface of one “incompetence” after another.

But I have a mental illness that makes me think people will think for themselves if I present established facts with reasonable explanations and expect basic pattern recognition.

If they still disagree, I expect them to argue with an equally valid interpretation of the facts or change their mind.

Instead, I get one-liners based on tired sayings that are treated as a tool for ever job. Or I get silence.

And I am supposed to respect people?

This is why everybody allowed themselves to be lab rats in a failed medical experiment for a t-shirt or a slice of pizza.

Hint: There is a Bell curve of intelligence and the center line is not very bright.

Liz
Liz
1 month ago

CH, there is so much information out there that is false, it is going to be hard to sift through what is true. I’ve been suspecting an assassination attempt on Trump (also Biden, and perhaps Kamala) for a while now. This would be suspiciously good timing if it had succeeded to put in place “emergency measures” to stall the election, or any number of things. That didn’t happen, for which I’m thankful. Yes, I believe it was divine intervention.

That said, I still fall under the incompetence explains most of this.
Did TPTB set up everything for incompetence to take out Trump? I’d say yes…look no further than the proposed legislation to remove his personal security.

Anyone that incompetent would have never made it through the academy”
I’m not from the academy, but I can tell you back when my spouse went to F16 training (this is all the way back in the 90s) there was a female in his class who refused to do high Gs. No man would have passed in her position, but they did pass her. This happened quite a lot, back then even before DEI every commander wanted to say their squadron/group/wing had the first female fighter pilot.
What are the requirements for the academy? Can’t be anywhere near what it is to be a fighter pilot. Take a look around at the average LEO. Yes, SS is supposed to be better…but team B, C…?
Not everyone was a total failure that day.
The sniper took out the shooter pretty quickly, once the bullets started flying. The SS men next to Trump covered him even if the ladies seemed to cower and forget how to holster their weapons.

Liz
Liz
1 month ago

Exhibit A, no they are talking about eliminating carrier qualification for flight school students.
https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2024/july/dont-ignore-value-basic-carrier-training

This is the sort of thing that leads to an incompetency crisis. When the competency crisis is bad enough, and politics line up, it looks like it was all planned.

GrayBlack
GrayBlack
1 month ago

Of course it was planned, don’t you know according to a plethora of academics, experts, and government officials that ‘competency’ is a ‘dog whistle’ for ‘whiteness’ and ‘structural racism’. The type of ‘social constructs’ which they want to ‘abolish’.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
1 month ago

GI, you will never make a judgement then.

An improper and incomplete investigation full of lies and spin will generate a conveniently false conclusion.

I can’t say about you, but most people will Trust the Science.

“…but the FBI said…”

It baffles me that the whole world self-destructed with needless small business-killing lockdowns, arbitrary social distancing rules, worthless masks, and ineffective vaccines… and now it is without doubt that this was led by maliciousness taking advantage of incompetence… yet so few can recognize the exact same pattern here.

People deserve what they accept.

Bonus: The FBI claims there were 8 empty shells on the roof near the shooter. This is a convenient explanation but it doesn’t jive with professional analysis or statements from LE. Let’s see how they lie their way back out of this.

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