Seoul Court Denies Dual Citizenship in Case of “Birth Tourism” in the U.S.
Some how I doubt the writers of the 14th Admendment envisioned foreigners from other countries rushing to the U.S. to have a kid in order to avoid military service in their home country. People without legal status in the U.S. should not have their kid given citizenship because this is just another example of how it is abused:
A Seoul court has supported the rejection of an application for dual US-South Korean citizenship because their parent’s residence in the US was for the purpose of their child gaining US citizenship.
The Seoul Administrative Court said Monday that it had ruled in favor of the Seoul Southern Immigration Office, which rejected the plaintiff’s February 2024 application to retain the citizenships of both countries.
South Korea’s Nationality Act states that a child of a citizen obtains citizenship at birth, and the Fourteenth Amendment of the US Constitution grants citizenship to anyone born inside its territories. This means that someone born in the US to parents who are Korean citizens — as in case of the plaintiff — is granted dual citizenships at birth.
Dual citizens at birth are usually allowed to retain the nationality of South Korea and another country by pledging to the government not to exercise the rights of foreign citizenship before the age of 22, or within two years of completing their mandatary military service in the case of men. This is to prevent dual citizens from dodging duties mandated for South Koreans, such military service.
But the immigration office refused to allow dual citizenship to the plaintiff, saying that the plaintiff’s mother is thought to have lived in the US only for the explicit purpose of obtaining US citizenship for her child — sometimes referred to as “birth tourism.” The Nationality Act states that in cases where the parent is “deemed to have resided in a foreign country for the purpose of having the person acquire the nationality of the foreign country,” the child can retain his or her South Korean citizenship only after renouncing the other nationality.
The plaintiff’s mother went to the US in 2003 just before giving birth to the plaintiff, staying in the country for a month and a half.
You can read more at the link.
Those parents probably kicking themselves now, giving their child a US citizenship that sucks, right after DOGE torched all the social benefits. It’s now a citizenship that offers no old age pension, no consumer protection, no medical healthcare other than having to pay exorbitant medical fees, etc etc. They should have just let their son serve a few months in the military, and it would have all been all over in short time. The funny thing is, if Trump has his way, the US will bring back the military draft for US young male citizens, which will cancel the benefits that these parents thought they were getting.
“It’s now a citizenship that offers no old age pension, no consumer protection, no medical healthcare other than having to pay exorbitant medical fees, etc etc.”
Nothing changed with old age pension. As DOGE cuts fraud, waste, and abuse, the existing system becomes stronger and more sustainable.
It is unclear what you mean by “no consumer protection”. The only thing that has changed is the FCC is collecting evidence of social media censorship, main stream media fake news, and the unconstitutional manipulation and blocking of free speech when this was managed by the American government. That is true consumer protection.
Americans have always paid exorbitant medical fees. That didn’t start during Trump’s one month in office. Based on the actions of DOGE so far, it is likely the fraud, waste, and abuse in the medical system that sees masive wealth transfers from government to the medical bureaucracy will be exposed.
If you really believe what you are saying, I understand your frustration.
Life is harder when you are stupid.
Interesting that the Korean government isn’t allowing citizenship. When my son entered the country last year, they wouldn’t give him a SOFA visa because they said he was a Korean citizen, though we thought we had properly renunciated before.
>”Nothing changed with old age pension”
Of course a lot has changed. And it’s only just starting.
talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-perfect-storm-at-the-social-security-administration
This was already all laid out in Project 2025, written years ago. All the moves they’ve made so far, are all lining up. It’s 1985 Dystopia, in real life.
> “It is unclear what you mean by “no consumer protection””.
“Musk’s Doge takes aim at US consumer protection agency”
bbc.com/news/articles/cly48101n19o
Musk wants the consumer protection gone, so that he doesn’t have to deal with all the rules and regulations designed to protect the consumers. Not to mention cutting the FDA for food safety, entire sections of food safety inspectors cut – your food supply is now in danger, and your food prices will skyrocket soon. The CDC investigating the bird flu, all let go, your egg prices should continue to go up with more and more chickens have to be killed off.
> “Americans have always paid exorbitant medical fees.”
Your Medicare cut bill is on the congress floor, and Republicans ready to vote on it to cut healthcare for millions of children and elderly in care homes.
Even the MAGA voters are now gripped with fear and anger that they’re being targeted (it’s a different story when they’re targeting you now, right?)
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doge-cuts-medicaid-fears-spark-protests-gop-lawmaker-offices-across-us
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Korea Man, so the premise of the article is that the Social Security Administration is paralyzed and granny isn’t going to get her check becasue everybody has to give five sentences to justify their existence with just one day notice.
Please set the bar higher for the government workforce.
So far, the response to this has only reinforced the idea that most government workers are lazy and worthless and need to be fired.
Somehow, that looks like the real plan.
I can hear the soundbite now.
“If someone cannot spend a coffee break to write down fewer than 50 words on how they bring value to their organization, clearly they do not. It is likely they are also not ideal for getting granny her check on time.”
Like tranny children and illegal alien murder-rapìsts, this is another hill the left foolishly wishes to die on.
Go for it.
“If someone cannot spend a coffee break to write down fewer than 50 words”
What if they’re on vacation? Fired.
What if they’re on sick leave? Fired.
What if they didn’t get the email for whatever reason? Fired.
What if they can’t access their emails? Fired.
What if they did send their emails? Still fired.
What if they were told by their bosses (FBI, Defense, DOJ, National Intelligence, etc) not to respond? Fired.
And didn’t Musk deny that he works for DOGE? Trump even claimed he’s just a consultant. What right does MUSK have to hire and fire people?
You know and I know, this is not about simple five point answers to a question. It is about harassing workers, demeaning them, accusing them of being worthless workers who are not working. It is work place bullying and abuse, and Musk should be fired for it. Worse, this is just an excuse to make people quit or fire them.
Why doesn’t Musk answer his own question? What 5 things has he done the last week, other than writing 500+ twit posts on X?
Who knew it would be this easy.
It is truly shocking how the Administrative State has responded to a simple request to self-report their value in a one-minute concequence-free excercise.
How did they even pass the job interview?
This is a brilliant test for who needs to be fired… not based on the answer but based on their participation.
I am the only person at my company that does great job interviews (we can discuss my theory on this another time), but I am 100% going to add this question:
“Don’t let this question cause you any stress. No pressure. I’m going to go grab us a couple cups of coffee. When I get back, tell me 5 accomplishments you had last week in your personal or professional life. You probably had many, but just give me the top 5 you aremost proud of.”
Of course if someone asked me that, “Sure, buddy, but don’t you think that is better suited to a more intimate setting?”
chinabot sure got butthurt about 5 minutes work.
Granted he has never shown the ability to summarize anything into bullet points, but maybe watching pr0n and spamming the ‘Drop isn’t what he’s supposed to be doing?
The main point was and is; federal workers were hired by their organization. They don’t work for and answer to Elon Musk. Period. If they want to shrink the federal workforce (and it needs to be reduced) there’s a right (and legal) way, and there’s this clown show we’re seeing now.
After sending Musk and Trump their talking points, they really shined.
They even added a few things of their own.
“””Musk complained about backlash to the directive on his social media platform late Monday.
“The email request was utterly trivial, as the standard for passing the test was to type some words and press send! Yet so many failed even that inane test, urged on in some cases by their managers. Have you ever witnessed such INCOMPETENCE and CONTEMPT for how YOUR TAXES are being spent?” he wrote.
In a subsequent tweet, he seemed to indicate that a second email could be sent to government workers who don’t respond to the first one.
“Subject to the discretion of the President, they will be given another chance. Failure to respond a second time will result in termination,” he wrote.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the post.
The initial directive has faced pushback from unions, workers and even some agencies since it was sent, but the effort was praised by President Donald Trump earlier Monday.
“I thought it was great,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office, where he was meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron.
“We have people that don’t show up to work and nobody even knows if they work for the government, so by asking the question ‘tell us what you did this week,’ what he’s doing is saying are you actually working. And then, if you don’t answer, like, you’re sort of semi-fired or you’re fired,” he said, claiming without providing evidence that “a lot of people are not answering because they don’t even exist.”
“There was a lot of genius in sending it,” Trump said. “If people don’t respond, it’s very possible that there is no such person or they’re not working.””””
“The main point was and is; federal workers were hired by their organization.”
Do you have a degree in HR or did you pick that up after decades of professional experience?
“They don’t work for and answer to Elon Musk. Period.”
They don’t work for Musk. But they answer to the president, and that can be done through Musk. So… not so period.
(The irony is DOGE is possible because Obama set up this structure after the Obamacare website rollout debacle.)
“If they want to shrink the federal workforce (and it needs to be reduced) there’s a right (and legal) way,”
This is legal… and it is oh, so right.
“and there’s this clown show we’re seeing now.”
The only people who think this is a clown show are the clowns.
The lines are being drawn between those who are moving forward to a more efficient future and those who want to stick to sloth, waste, and corruption.
Pick a side.