David Bowie is dead at 69. Don’t know about you guys, but of all the rock stars that I would expect to die anytime soon, he certainly wasn’t one. Then again, I didn’t know he had cancer.
Liz
8 years ago
I didn’t know about Bowie. I wonder what type of cancer it was?
setnaffa
8 years ago
Liz, that hasn’t been released (yet?). The Guardian suggested lung cancer; but any of ’em are rough.
Legit video, or sham? I remember the last time North Korea claimed it had fired a missile from a submarine, the barge the missile was really launched from was visible behind the sub.
This video looks like the missile was fired from underwater, except the water seems strangely undisturbed… Maybe it’s the quality of the video though.
I’m sure the Norks are clever enough to fake the video or get the Chinese to shoot one for them; but I think we should assume that a. they have ’em, b. they’ll use ’em, and c. we’ll need a POTUS with actual testosterone to do anything but send John Kerry and a washed-up singer from the 1960’s to pretend we care about the victims of any attack…
setnaffa
8 years ago
Stuck in moderation again. To many links to missile launches?
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
Huh 😈
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
Servicethemselfmembers and/or children are not citizens of America like Trump says Cruz isn’t, so the Supreme Court needs to decide!!!
Trump Goes Birther On Cruz
The Donald has gone there, bringing up Ted Cruz’s Canadian citizenship https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-cruzs-canadian-birth-could-be-very-precarious-for-gop/2016/01/05/5ce69764-b3f8-11e5-9388-466021d971de_story.html
“Republicans are going to have to ask themselves the question: ‘Do we want a candidate who could be tied up in court for two years?’ That’d be a big problem,” Trump said when asked about the topic. “It’d be a very precarious one for Republicans because he’d be running and the courts may take a long time to make a decision. You don’t want to be running and have that kind of thing over your head.”
Trump added: “I’d hate to see something like that get in his way. But a lot of people are talking about it and I know that even some states are looking at it very strongly, the fact that he was born in Canada and he has had a double passport.”
johnnyboy
8 years ago
Citizens can be born abroad. I believe the confusion comes into play because the requirements for a president call for a “natural born” citizen. There is still some disagreement on what that actually means.
setnaffa
8 years ago
johnnyboy, it just means one who was born in the US to parents here legally or elsewhere to one or two American citizens… Like Barry Soetoro and McAmnesty…
Denny
8 years ago
Wearing unearned medals (stolen valor) is protected by 1st Amendment, appeals court rules
NEW YORK – Authorities say a New York City woman kept two South Korean children as slaves in her home for six years.
District Attorney Richard Brown says Queens resident Sook Yeong Park took the sister and brother into her home in 2010 and cut off contact with their parents. The children are now 14 and 16.
Brown says Park seized the children’s passports, forced them to do household chores into the night and made them work at a grocery store and turn their earnings over to her.
Park was arraigned Saturday on charges of labor trafficking, assault and endangering the welfare of a child. Her attorney did not immediately return a call.
Brown says the abuse came to light when a high school assistant principal noticed bruises on the girl’s legs.
I’d have many more questions on why they parents let this happen, etc. Hopefully it will all come out.
Tyson
8 years ago
This is not the first time that the North Korean commandos who were dropped off in the south via a submarine operation. These are not rumors from North Korea, instead, they are taught as fact in North Korea. Even the late defector Hwang Jang Yeop who defected in 1996, the one known as the great the architect of North Korea’s Juche ideology, said that North Korean commandos were responsible for creating a confusion between South Korean army sent by then dictator general Chun Doo Hwan, and the Gwangju civilians who were taking up arms by raiding the police armoury. The North Korean commandos played off the South Korean army against the Gwangju civilians by shooting at both sides, causing battles that lead to mass casualties. The NK commandos then slipped off into the night and melted into the population. It’s acknowleged as fact in North Korea, that those commandos went back to North Korea where they were awarded medals.
Every North Korean defectors who have spoken on this subject are claiming that all this is true.
If this is true, it will not only blow the lid off the cover, but it will also make us question what was the nature of the May 18, 1980 uprising in Gwangju should be known as? In South Korea, currently it is taught that this was a fight for democracy. Once the Korea’s unify again someday, those secret files will be revealed, and I’m sure there will be so much shocking stuff in the archives that we would never have believed.
johnnyboy
8 years ago
setnaffa,
The definition of natural born citizen is still up for debate. Not sure which way I feel about it, just that it is still debated.
I think CH may be right in regards to Obama. He probably was born in Hawaii, but there may have been something embarrassing on his original birth certificate. Perhaps it was his ethnicity listed as white. Perhaps it was a different person listed as his father. We will likely never know.
tbonetylr
8 years ago
President Barack Obama ROCKS ❗
SOTU Address
Obama: (in summary) “When Sputnik beat us to the moon, we didn’t deny it” 😆 😎 ❗
johnnyboy
8 years ago
I wasn’t alive back then, but I sure don’t think Sputnik ever landed on the moon.
ChickenHead
8 years ago
Nonsensical paraphrasing: yet another dangerous and disruptive side effect of Global Warming
We all agree to have now seen it in action and it is impossible to deny the science or the concensus.
Tbonetylr
8 years ago
The Navy is a joke being captured by Iranians 😆
setnaffa
8 years ago
So… some of you were foolish enough to waste time watching an insipid SCOAMF rant about himself? I’m sad for you. 😯
I read a book. I think I won. 😛
setnaffa
8 years ago
@19, not really. Obama was born outside the USA as it was at that time. His mom was a citizen. Ted Cruz is as much of a citizen as Barry. And McAmnesty was born in the Panama Canal Zone and was accepted as an Natural Born American.
Read the Constitution and Amendments. “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” If one or both of your parents are US Citizens, it doesn’t matter where you’re born. Even if you’re a Republican.
@14: It seems to me to be a gimmick to bring media attention to the group which is apparently working. If she is able to learn Korean then maybe she will have some staying power.
South Korea fired “Warning shots” at a North Korean drone that had strayed a few meters over the border. Warning shots, or poor marksmanship? Ah, well. The drone turned and went back north.
The North has apparently also begun sending Propaganda Leaflets south again. But no USBs filled with North Korean K-Pop, no North Korean K-Dramas? How low rent… Step up your game, Fatty Kim!
ChickenHead
8 years ago
For a short while, it looked like ROK Drop was going in a really positive direction with a cooperative feeling that might attract/reattract a larger base of contributing commenters.
It pains me to advocate the complete and absolute blanket delete… but sometimes you have to amputate to stop the cancer.
I try not to let rigid ideology destroy my larger positive goals.
johnnyboy
8 years ago
Unlike cancer, RokDrop’s destructive force does have a limit to its spread and effectiveness.
Truly it is an annoyance and a hindrance to productive communication, but it can only effect us as much as we let it. I’m not sure what its few days off were. I was beginning to think it was only waiting for someone to notice its absence and call it out by name. Someone did.
Now we are back to where we were. But no matter. We know that we can have a decent conversation with or without it.
Setnaffa,
Some will argue that natural born citizens must be born within U.S. borders. I am not sure what the founders intended, but forgive me for thinking that you sure want Ted Cruz to be considered natural born. I don’t blame you for sticking up for your guy, if he is your guy. Personally, I think he is too beholden to the Glenn Beck crowd.
When was Obama born? When did Hawaii become a state? Was he not born within the Continental United States to an American Citizen mother?
One thing that has always puzzled me: My daughter was born on Yongsan Garrison as 121 hospital. I had always been told that U.S. bases were considered U.S. soil. I still had to apply for a Citizen born abroad certificate. Is my daughter a natural born citizen?
ChickenHead
8 years ago
Johnnyboy, I believe entertaining, interesting, and thoughtful comments encourage participation… even when they are offensive or inflammatory… especially when they are offensive or inflammatory.
Spam and incoherence can be scrolled through… but many people do not find it worth the effort… especially when there are many other places they can participate in uninterrupted conversation.
I like to bicker as much as the next guy… but it means nothing if the conversation is with the equivalent of a crack baby and all the smart people have grown weary and left the room.
After some years of preperation and social hibernation, I am now working with people who enjoy listening to the same stuff I say here… but in the real world… which is quite liberating.
I would like to keep ROK Drop as a part of my life… but most of the clever commenters have been run off and half (or more, if measured by volume) is complete whacked out nonsense or meaningless propaganda… which has run off more people… which makes a higher percentage of junk… which discourages new people.
This is a death spiral for a blog.
Smetimes if you want to make an omelet, you have to break a few bad eggs.
Liz
8 years ago
“One thing that has always puzzled me: My daughter was born on Yongsan Garrison as 121 hospital. I had always been told that U.S. bases were considered U.S. soil.”
I think the Pentagon disputes that bit about “US bases being US soil”. If that were true, we’d see pregnant women rushing to Embassy parking lots to give birth. I my knowledge, foreign nationals who are born on US army bases are not on “us soil” and do not qualify for citizenship. But if their parents are US citizens, they do. One of my sons was born in an Italian hospital, and he is a US citizen (also an Italian citizen).
I’ve read that this concept dates back to English Common Law, which stipulated that children of ambassadors living outside England were “natural born subjects.”
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_02_24-2008_03_01.shtml#1204265246 “all children, born out of the king’s ligeance, whose fathers were natural-born subjects, are now natural-born subjects themselves, to all intents and purposes, without any exception; unless their said fathers were attainted, or banished beyond sea, for high treason; or were then in the service of a prince at enmity with Great Britain.”
I’m having to look into the reverse of the Birthright Citizen issue with my son. My wife is Korean, and was a green card holder who had been living in the states from when she was 11 until she was 20 and we met and got married in Hawaii. She never became a U.S. citizen until 2003, three years after our son was born.
Now she’s looking into the possibility that our son might have to go into the ROK Army for two years when he is 18. Apparently, he may fall under Dual Citizenship status.
We never filed any marriage paperwork, birth certificates or anything else in Korea while she was still a South Korean citizen. Mom-in-law is a Korean citizen, and was looking into the legalities of transferring property and other assets to the kids as she gets older. This is how the whole issue came to light. Hadn’t even considered it before.
While there is no way the Korean government can force my son to join as long as he is in the States, he might run into problems if he comes to Korea on vacation. Apparently the laws changed in 1999, and he was born in 2000.
Anybody have any experience with this? It seems that Korea changed some of their laws to keep rich families from having their kids in Hawaii so their kids could avoid Army Service later. I’d hate for him to have to avoid coming to Korea from ages 18-38 because of the possibility of having to go into the Army for 21 months. He’s as “American” as they come, and only speaks a few words and phrases of Korean, although he understands a bit more than he speaks.
@29- I have been deleting a number of Tbone’s stupid comments, but I only have time to work on the site before heading off to work. If anyone with more time wants to be a comment moderator let me know.
setnaffa
8 years ago
GI, except for He Who Must Not Be Named and maybe some of my less-sensitive moments, I don’t have any complaints about your management style.
Your concerns are valid. There was a noticeable uptick in the conversation here for a couple weeks. I am starting to come around to your way of thinking. This is GI’s blog and really he can moderate someone into non-existence if he so chooses. Though this might lead to cries of “I was winning all the arguments so they banned me!” at least the cries would be somewhere else.
Question: If banned based on IP address, do you believe a certain individual would go quietly into that good night, or find workarounds to come back with a different handle?
MTB,
I had often wondered if I had a son at 121 instead if he would have been considered dual citizen. There was a pregnant female in my unit who was planning to deliver a boy at 121 and she was concerned about the service requirement as well. I doubt the ROK Army would have wanted a white recruit though.
In regards to the original conversation on natural-born citizenship, I still don’t believe it’s as cut and dry as Setnaffa is making it out to be. I don’t want to attack Cruz. I have pondered this question before. There are some interpretations that believe that a natural born citizen must be born within the confines of the United States to one or more U.S. citizens. I think we may see court cases on this in years to come. If McCain had won, I feel that someone may have legally challenged his natural-born citizenship eventually.
johnnyboy
8 years ago
@32
Not enough hours in the day to take out all the trash. You’re doing a good job. I never said it before, but thanks for having the wherewithal to start this site. We may be a niche group of participants with unique experiences that many of the population wouldn’t understand, but it’s nice to have a place to talk about those experiences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause discusses it in great detail. It’s interesting that there have already been challenges to Cruz that have been rejected and the overwhelming number of “experts” support his citizenship claim.
I am willing to wait until the GOP decides which way they want to roll before deciding who to support.
I don’t know, Tbone. I mean, Setnaffa and I are having a civil discussion about natural born citizenship. We might disagree on what the consensus definition of the term, but we are talking it out respectfully. Not exactly groupthink.
There’s much to be gained from a discussion between two adults who might be on opposite ends of an issue, but can calmly and effectively express their thoughts on the matter.
I think that might be why you don’t make a lot of friends around here. Or why people have started to altogether tune you out.
Free speech has limitations. I don’t just mean the “fire in a crowded theater” kind. A website is akin to private property. If you went on someone’s private property and started shouting things they found to be distasteful, they would be within their rights to remove you from the property. GI is completely free to delete anyone’s post here for any reason whatsoever.
Perhaps he chooses to delete yours not because of the content, but because the tone is harsh, abrasive, and honestly, plain annoying.
Really, if not for you being here (at least in the way you conduct yourself at this time), RokDrop would be a better place. In fact, it had been for the past few weeks you weren’t posting.
I invite you to just try for once to discuss issues you feel passionately about without namecalling and petty insults. I promise that at least I would have a respectful conversation with you.
If you read this to the end and find yourself angry, calm down and read it again. It isn’t my intent to make you mad. I honestly would like to see a day that you and I could carry a conversation with maturity and respect here.
johnnyboy
8 years ago
I can’t grasp it because it isn’t true.
There are plenty of topics that members here disagree on. We just choose to interact differently than you do when we have a disagreement.
johnnyboy
8 years ago
CH,
Side question. I have a power window that won’t go up or down. There are four wires running from the switch to the motor. I am guessing the two larger wires are the positive and negative and the smaller wires are ground.
When I press up on the switch the two large wires both get juice at the point where the harness connects to the motor’s wiring. When I press down, neither gets juice. I am guessing that one wire should get juice when I press up, the other when I press down as the reverse polarity would cycle the motor back and forth.
The motor is good. I got the window back up with speaker wire run directly from the two large wires in the harness to the positive and negative posts on the battery.
The best I can figure, there is something making contact where it shouldn’t in the switch. I examined it and all the soldering seems to be in decent shape. Nothing looks out of place. This is a Honda and a new switch costs over 200 bucks.
Any suggestions? Could these symptoms be from a break in the wiring running to the door and making contact with the frame? As much as I don’t want to pay out for a new switch, I would hate to try and track down and replace a broken wire in all the wires running through the door.
ChickenHead
8 years ago
Hmmm… not sure. I hate working on cars and despise many of the near-incomprehensable design choices.
Assuming there is no relay inolved and the switch simply sends 12v to the motor, reversing polarity depending on the up or down being pushed…
My assumptions:
– there are 4 wires going to the switch.
– these are 12v, ground, motor +, motor –
– pressing one direction will send 12v to motor + and ground to motor -. Pressing the other direction will invert this, reversing the direction of the motor.
If this is the case…
– when the switch is not pressed, a 12v bulb should come on when placed on 2 of the wires. These are 12v and Ground. The other two wires are the outputs to the motor and will he connected to nothing when the switch is not pressed.
– when the bulb is placed on the other two wires (out to motor) it should come on when either up or down is pressed. A meter will show atound 12v and -12v.
Possibly:
– contacts are corroded in the switch… take it apart as best you can and rub a little strip of folded sandpaper between them… 800 grit
If you notice any difference than my assumptions, let me know what you find and we will go from there
Liz
8 years ago
MTB Rider: “While there is no way the Korean government can force my son to join as long as he is in the States, he might run into problems if he comes to Korea on vacation. Apparently the laws changed in 1999, and he was born in 2000.
Anybody have any experience with this?”
My son is an Italian citizen, and I know back when they had mandatory conscription in the Italian military (think they ended that in 2000, or late 1990…pretty recently) he would have had to make a choice. Either serve or lose citizenship. Seems like that would be an option for your son too…they can’t force him to be a citizen, can they? I don’t know much about ROK law.
Liz
8 years ago
“Question: If banned based on IP address, do you believe a certain individual would go quietly into that good night, or find workarounds to come back with a different handle?”
Whatever the answer, it would probably be some good mental exercise for his brain.
Mixing it up a little so he can try to figure out how to get around it.
Kind of like what they do for dementia patients.
johnnyboy
8 years ago
I like it, Liz.
Sometimes a negative experience produces positive results.
Face it, BONEHEAD. You don’t bring anything to the conversation, and on the rare occasions when you do, you run away.
You were the one who brought up President Obama’s inceestious lust for his daughters, but you never said if you support your President’s desires, or oppose them. So which is it? Do you want to see your President coupling with his daughters, singly or in pairs, and if in pairs, in series or in parallel? I’ve asked you several times, but you pretend like you didn’t see me ask.
Let’s face it, you haven’t added anything to the conversation, because you don’t know how to have a conversation. You just spew and flee. You’ve been doing that ever since you came to this site, begging for sympathy as you were kicked out of your employer provided apartment. Then you bragged how great your life would be once you got back home. How has that been going for you? Why do you come to this site, if not out of mind numbing loneliness?
I think every time you disappear, you’re in jail, trying to scrape together bail money. Your criminal record in Korea was quite lengthy, public intoxication, public fighting, etc. You make quite the nuisance of yourself wherever you go, don’t you? Probably the result of poor upbringing. One mom, many, many “Uncles.”
Oh, my son was born in Hawaii.
setnaffa
8 years ago
So, not to change the subject, do any of you think Trump and Cruz were basically taking a victory lap at the GOP Debate?
I haven’t had time to troubleshoot today. My wife is driving the car. I think your assumptions are correct. I have never opened up a power window switch before, so I’m not sure what it’s supposed to look like, but I feel like this one is more complicated than it needs to be. I am told that American made switches would likely cost around $20. At $200, Honda is…….special…….
There is a relay, but it is in the fuse box under the dash, and is before the switch.
It’s the driver switch, so it has a bit in there for automatic rolldown, but I don’t think that is the problem. The two contacts are in the shape of a V, one contact on each side of the switch, oriented up and down as the button moves. The button itself has two spring loaded pins on the bottom that rest in the valleys of the V’s and when the button is toggled up or down, one pin will slide up and push on the proper contact.
The contacts look to be in okay shape, but I think the problem has to be in the switch somewhere. How likely is it that some soldering has heated up and broken connection, or shifted to touch something it isn’t supposed to?
setnaffa
8 years ago
johnnyboy,
If you can find the part number, you can order online (Amazon or other sources) and often find youtube videos detailing troubleshooting and repair.
Did that with the window switch on my wife’s Buick and the rear door release for my S-10.
I did the youtube route. Most videos were about changing the window motor and regulator. Did gain some incite into the components involved though. Found one that helped me with using battery power to directly roll up the window. Youtube is a really good resource for car maintenance.
Gosh, it looks like our troll has removed himself from the conversation…..
“Thou Shalt Not Flip Out on Thy Peasants, Even If Thou Beist a Princess.”
setnaffa
8 years ago
BTW, have you notices that while other books decrease in price, college textbooks have actually increased in proportion to Federal Aid (including loans) provided?
Oh, yeah! Especially after I was able to buy the previous edition of my Psych 101 book for only $1.
Everyone else paid $78, and here are the list of changes:
1. Rearranged the chapter order. I had to look for a bit (3 min tops) to find where the rest of the class was.
2. One (ONE!) word had been changed in a single sentence. In proper military fashion, I lined out the word, put down the correct word, and initialed the change. That’s it.
Got an A, and saved $77…
setnaffa
8 years ago
Huzzah!!
setnaffa
8 years ago
Actually, what brought this up was me buying the books listed in Heinlein’s Rocket Ship Galileo (on the kid’s lab bookshelf) and wanting to also get the books used in the local community colleges for a Certificate in Electronic Engineering Technology (I already have an AA and BS from the 1980s).
And I’d need a second job to afford the over $2,000.00 in textbooks and lab guides I’d need to complete their little 26 Credit program.
I guess I’ll have to hang out in used book stores near the local colleges and universities… See if I can spot a deal…
ChickenHead
8 years ago
Funny this should come up.
I was speaking about this very topic 6 hours ago.
I theorized one could simply photocopy the necessary chapters and bring them to class.
Fair Use allows the use of copyrighted material under a number of circumstances… and “performance art” parodying the textbook racket may satisfy these conditions… especially in classes such as math and physics which haven’t changed in generations except for the yearly reorganization of material that keeps new textbooks being sold.
People should be in jail for the current “education” fraud upon young students and the taxpayer.
Ah, BONEHEAD, BONEHEAD, BONEHEAD. You just don’t “get it,” do you?
No one cares what you think, because you are a nuisance.
And, of course, you refuse to say whether you support of oppose your President and his lustful, inceestious desires for his daughters. So strange, since you were the one to bring it up in the first place.
setnaffa
8 years ago
I still feel sorry for him. Having Palin and Cankles both living rent-free in his head must be pretty traumatic.
Denny
8 years ago
Stacey Dash calls for elimination of Black History Month and awards that celebrate African-Americans amid Oscars backlash
BONEHEAD, did you change brands of spraypaint? You’re even less coherent than usual.
ChickenHead
8 years ago
MTB, please don’t engage the freak. Ignore it until GI works his magic. You just give him more to delete… as he potentially has to delete your comments as well.
If we pretend it doesn’t exist, the conversation is perfectly natural after a daily delete sweep.
setnaffa
8 years ago
Trolls get paid by number of times their name appears.
I cleaned up T-bone’s comments. However, I do have to agree with T-bone that Palin blaming President Obama for her son’s domestic violence arrest is pretty ridiculous.
Setnaffa, you missed one: Our Very Own Chickenhead lives in BONEHEAD’s brain, rent free as well. Taking beer out of the fridge, leaving Cheetos crumbs on the couch, and tossing used Kleenexes on the coffee table.
Shoulda just left Korea, and never looked back. Even if you quit this site, CH will be in your mind. Forever… ever… ever…
setnaffa
8 years ago
LOL. Good thing I put the coffee cup down. Laptop keykoards cost more than $2… But how do you know so much about CH’s habits and He Who Must Not Be Named’s mental furniture? 😐
Wait. Don’t tell me. Please. 😯
ChickenHead
8 years ago
Another school shooting…
…oh, wait.
“Canada school shooting: four confirmed dead as lockdown is lifted”
They already banned guns so that doesn’t fit the agenda… better not put that in the news.
Liz
8 years ago
“They already banned guns so that doesn’t fit the agenda… better not put that in the news.”
We had a lockdown at the highschool here (I have to tell you it is a little surreal to get a text from your son that says, “We’re in lockdown now.”
Apparently an 11 year old girl who had never seen a gun before told her mother that she thought she saw a guy carrying a rifle when they dropped her brother off at school.
Short story: It was a large black umbrella. The gym teacher was carrying it, and they ahve given him another bright pink one since.
But I have to tell you this is an area of the country where so many people have guns and concealed carry permits and are involved in one way or another with the military…whether the coast guard or reserve of whatnot, it was quite interesting to watch what happened.
Parents surrounded the perimeter of the school and waited with their cells. The swat team and dogs and so forth came into the school while everyone else waited on the outside.
Every single person was armed to the hilt. Eventually the cops called it in as a ruse but I can tell you if it had been real the culprits wouldn’t have been able to get away with what they did in Norway or Paris.
Liz
8 years ago
I said “I can tell you” a few too many times above.
Wishing for that edit feature.
Liz
8 years ago
Cold Anger, a good article for anyone who wonders at Trump’s popularity:
Wouldn’t it be nice if folks who know nothing about guns stopped scaring people?
ChickenHead
8 years ago
By the time armed parents on the perimeter heard any shooting from a spree killer, it would be too late to rush the school and do much good.
I think the solution is to see something, say something. Clog the system with bogus reports of men with guns until the system breaks down and becomes dysfunctional… then maybe some degree personal responsibility in action and judgement will return.
David Bowie is dead at 69. Don’t know about you guys, but of all the rock stars that I would expect to die anytime soon, he certainly wasn’t one. Then again, I didn’t know he had cancer.
I didn’t know about Bowie. I wonder what type of cancer it was?
Liz, that hasn’t been released (yet?). The Guardian suggested lung cancer; but any of ’em are rough.
Not that there was ever a time when I wanted to be Sean Penn; but now especially: http://www.fox4news.com/news/u-s-world/71753023-story
I expect this will be the meat of the SOTU this year: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/01/03/fbi-more-people-killed-with-hammers-and-clubs-each-year-than-with-rifles/
Legit video, or sham? I remember the last time North Korea claimed it had fired a missile from a submarine, the barge the missile was really launched from was visible behind the sub.
This video looks like the missile was fired from underwater, except the water seems strangely undisturbed… Maybe it’s the quality of the video though.
http://www.military.com/video/guided-missiles/sea-launched/north-korean-submarine-launches-missile/4698426515001
If legit, this could be a problem for coastal South Korean cities, and a fair way inland.
Oh, and whoever took out the trash, thanks. An alternative view point is one thing, spewed craap is another.
MTB Rider, I find myself in agreement on all points, especially the last. Honest folks can discuss matters over a seasonally appropriate beverage. 🙂
South Korea says the video is not new and belongs to November’s test.
Polaris missile launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUlXty69-Y8
Trident missile launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aPvGGvnAGQ
Tomahawk missile launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FEDvvZQPJQ
Harpoon missile launch (about 1:08): http://www.military.com/video/guided-missiles/antiship-missiles/boeing-agm-84-harpoon/763859478001
I’m sure the Norks are clever enough to fake the video or get the Chinese to shoot one for them; but I think we should assume that a. they have ’em, b. they’ll use ’em, and c. we’ll need a POTUS with actual testosterone to do anything but send John Kerry and a washed-up singer from the 1960’s to pretend we care about the victims of any attack…
Stuck in moderation again. To many links to missile launches?
Huh 😈
Servicethemselfmembers and/or children are not citizens of America like Trump says Cruz isn’t, so the Supreme Court needs to decide!!!
Trump Goes Birther On Cruz
The Donald has gone there, bringing up Ted Cruz’s Canadian citizenship
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-cruzs-canadian-birth-could-be-very-precarious-for-gop/2016/01/05/5ce69764-b3f8-11e5-9388-466021d971de_story.html
“Republicans are going to have to ask themselves the question: ‘Do we want a candidate who could be tied up in court for two years?’ That’d be a big problem,” Trump said when asked about the topic. “It’d be a very precarious one for Republicans because he’d be running and the courts may take a long time to make a decision. You don’t want to be running and have that kind of thing over your head.”
Trump added: “I’d hate to see something like that get in his way. But a lot of people are talking about it and I know that even some states are looking at it very strongly, the fact that he was born in Canada and he has had a double passport.”
Citizens can be born abroad. I believe the confusion comes into play because the requirements for a president call for a “natural born” citizen. There is still some disagreement on what that actually means.
johnnyboy, it just means one who was born in the US to parents here legally or elsewhere to one or two American citizens… Like Barry Soetoro and McAmnesty…
Wearing unearned medals (stolen valor) is protected by 1st Amendment, appeals court rules
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-stolen-valor-act-court-20160111-story.html
First ever African American Kpop girl idol, Alexandria Reid of the group Rania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On9q86GkfvI
The description of controversy here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLlSWoxJOk
What do you think, will she be a prop or a real member of a Kpop group?
New York woman accused of holding 2 South Korean kids as slaves
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/12/new-york-woman-accused-holding-2-south-korean-kids-as-slaves.html?intcmp=hplnws
NEW YORK – Authorities say a New York City woman kept two South Korean children as slaves in her home for six years.
District Attorney Richard Brown says Queens resident Sook Yeong Park took the sister and brother into her home in 2010 and cut off contact with their parents. The children are now 14 and 16.
Brown says Park seized the children’s passports, forced them to do household chores into the night and made them work at a grocery store and turn their earnings over to her.
Park was arraigned Saturday on charges of labor trafficking, assault and endangering the welfare of a child. Her attorney did not immediately return a call.
Brown says the abuse came to light when a high school assistant principal noticed bruises on the girl’s legs.
I’d have many more questions on why they parents let this happen, etc. Hopefully it will all come out.
This is not the first time that the North Korean commandos who were dropped off in the south via a submarine operation. These are not rumors from North Korea, instead, they are taught as fact in North Korea. Even the late defector Hwang Jang Yeop who defected in 1996, the one known as the great the architect of North Korea’s Juche ideology, said that North Korean commandos were responsible for creating a confusion between South Korean army sent by then dictator general Chun Doo Hwan, and the Gwangju civilians who were taking up arms by raiding the police armoury. The North Korean commandos played off the South Korean army against the Gwangju civilians by shooting at both sides, causing battles that lead to mass casualties. The NK commandos then slipped off into the night and melted into the population. It’s acknowleged as fact in North Korea, that those commandos went back to North Korea where they were awarded medals.
Every North Korean defectors who have spoken on this subject are claiming that all this is true.
If this is true, it will not only blow the lid off the cover, but it will also make us question what was the nature of the May 18, 1980 uprising in Gwangju should be known as? In South Korea, currently it is taught that this was a fight for democracy. Once the Korea’s unify again someday, those secret files will be revealed, and I’m sure there will be so much shocking stuff in the archives that we would never have believed.
setnaffa,
The definition of natural born citizen is still up for debate. Not sure which way I feel about it, just that it is still debated.
I think CH may be right in regards to Obama. He probably was born in Hawaii, but there may have been something embarrassing on his original birth certificate. Perhaps it was his ethnicity listed as white. Perhaps it was a different person listed as his father. We will likely never know.
President Barack Obama ROCKS ❗
SOTU Address
Obama: (in summary) “When Sputnik beat us to the moon, we didn’t deny it” 😆 😎 ❗
I wasn’t alive back then, but I sure don’t think Sputnik ever landed on the moon.
Nonsensical paraphrasing: yet another dangerous and disruptive side effect of Global Warming
We all agree to have now seen it in action and it is impossible to deny the science or the concensus.
The Navy is a joke being captured by Iranians 😆
So… some of you were foolish enough to waste time watching an insipid SCOAMF rant about himself? I’m sad for you. 😯
I read a book. I think I won. 😛
@19, not really. Obama was born outside the USA as it was at that time. His mom was a citizen. Ted Cruz is as much of a citizen as Barry. And McAmnesty was born in the Panama Canal Zone and was accepted as an Natural Born American.
Read the Constitution and Amendments. “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” If one or both of your parents are US Citizens, it doesn’t matter where you’re born. Even if you’re a Republican.
The Onion slipped up and reported accurately!! http://www.theonion.com/article/obama-praises-own-strength-resilience-face-hardshi-52152
@14: It seems to me to be a gimmick to bring media attention to the group which is apparently working. If she is able to learn Korean then maybe she will have some staying power.
Shots Fired.
http://news.yahoo.com/korea-leader-calls-chinese-help-punish-north-korea-052920957.html
South Korea fired “Warning shots” at a North Korean drone that had strayed a few meters over the border. Warning shots, or poor marksmanship? Ah, well. The drone turned and went back north.
The North has apparently also begun sending Propaganda Leaflets south again. But no USBs filled with North Korean K-Pop, no North Korean K-Dramas? How low rent… Step up your game, Fatty Kim!
For a short while, it looked like ROK Drop was going in a really positive direction with a cooperative feeling that might attract/reattract a larger base of contributing commenters.
It pains me to advocate the complete and absolute blanket delete… but sometimes you have to amputate to stop the cancer.
I try not to let rigid ideology destroy my larger positive goals.
Unlike cancer, RokDrop’s destructive force does have a limit to its spread and effectiveness.
Truly it is an annoyance and a hindrance to productive communication, but it can only effect us as much as we let it. I’m not sure what its few days off were. I was beginning to think it was only waiting for someone to notice its absence and call it out by name. Someone did.
Now we are back to where we were. But no matter. We know that we can have a decent conversation with or without it.
Setnaffa,
Some will argue that natural born citizens must be born within U.S. borders. I am not sure what the founders intended, but forgive me for thinking that you sure want Ted Cruz to be considered natural born. I don’t blame you for sticking up for your guy, if he is your guy. Personally, I think he is too beholden to the Glenn Beck crowd.
When was Obama born? When did Hawaii become a state? Was he not born within the Continental United States to an American Citizen mother?
One thing that has always puzzled me: My daughter was born on Yongsan Garrison as 121 hospital. I had always been told that U.S. bases were considered U.S. soil. I still had to apply for a Citizen born abroad certificate. Is my daughter a natural born citizen?
Johnnyboy, I believe entertaining, interesting, and thoughtful comments encourage participation… even when they are offensive or inflammatory… especially when they are offensive or inflammatory.
Spam and incoherence can be scrolled through… but many people do not find it worth the effort… especially when there are many other places they can participate in uninterrupted conversation.
I like to bicker as much as the next guy… but it means nothing if the conversation is with the equivalent of a crack baby and all the smart people have grown weary and left the room.
After some years of preperation and social hibernation, I am now working with people who enjoy listening to the same stuff I say here… but in the real world… which is quite liberating.
I would like to keep ROK Drop as a part of my life… but most of the clever commenters have been run off and half (or more, if measured by volume) is complete whacked out nonsense or meaningless propaganda… which has run off more people… which makes a higher percentage of junk… which discourages new people.
This is a death spiral for a blog.
Smetimes if you want to make an omelet, you have to break a few bad eggs.
“One thing that has always puzzled me: My daughter was born on Yongsan Garrison as 121 hospital. I had always been told that U.S. bases were considered U.S. soil.”
I think the Pentagon disputes that bit about “US bases being US soil”. If that were true, we’d see pregnant women rushing to Embassy parking lots to give birth. I my knowledge, foreign nationals who are born on US army bases are not on “us soil” and do not qualify for citizenship. But if their parents are US citizens, they do. One of my sons was born in an Italian hospital, and he is a US citizen (also an Italian citizen).
I’ve read that this concept dates back to English Common Law, which stipulated that children of ambassadors living outside England were “natural born subjects.”
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_02_24-2008_03_01.shtml#1204265246
“all children, born out of the king’s ligeance, whose fathers were natural-born subjects, are now natural-born subjects themselves, to all intents and purposes, without any exception; unless their said fathers were attainted, or banished beyond sea, for high treason; or were then in the service of a prince at enmity with Great Britain.”
I’m having to look into the reverse of the Birthright Citizen issue with my son. My wife is Korean, and was a green card holder who had been living in the states from when she was 11 until she was 20 and we met and got married in Hawaii. She never became a U.S. citizen until 2003, three years after our son was born.
Now she’s looking into the possibility that our son might have to go into the ROK Army for two years when he is 18. Apparently, he may fall under Dual Citizenship status.
We never filed any marriage paperwork, birth certificates or anything else in Korea while she was still a South Korean citizen. Mom-in-law is a Korean citizen, and was looking into the legalities of transferring property and other assets to the kids as she gets older. This is how the whole issue came to light. Hadn’t even considered it before.
While there is no way the Korean government can force my son to join as long as he is in the States, he might run into problems if he comes to Korea on vacation. Apparently the laws changed in 1999, and he was born in 2000.
Anybody have any experience with this? It seems that Korea changed some of their laws to keep rich families from having their kids in Hawaii so their kids could avoid Army Service later. I’d hate for him to have to avoid coming to Korea from ages 18-38 because of the possibility of having to go into the Army for 21 months. He’s as “American” as they come, and only speaks a few words and phrases of Korean, although he understands a bit more than he speaks.
@29- I have been deleting a number of Tbone’s stupid comments, but I only have time to work on the site before heading off to work. If anyone with more time wants to be a comment moderator let me know.
GI, except for He Who Must Not Be Named and maybe some of my less-sensitive moments, I don’t have any complaints about your management style.
At least you don’t leave us alone:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/1/13/13-hours-the-security-contractors-have-their-say/2/
CH,
Your concerns are valid. There was a noticeable uptick in the conversation here for a couple weeks. I am starting to come around to your way of thinking. This is GI’s blog and really he can moderate someone into non-existence if he so chooses. Though this might lead to cries of “I was winning all the arguments so they banned me!” at least the cries would be somewhere else.
Question: If banned based on IP address, do you believe a certain individual would go quietly into that good night, or find workarounds to come back with a different handle?
MTB,
I had often wondered if I had a son at 121 instead if he would have been considered dual citizen. There was a pregnant female in my unit who was planning to deliver a boy at 121 and she was concerned about the service requirement as well. I doubt the ROK Army would have wanted a white recruit though.
In regards to the original conversation on natural-born citizenship, I still don’t believe it’s as cut and dry as Setnaffa is making it out to be. I don’t want to attack Cruz. I have pondered this question before. There are some interpretations that believe that a natural born citizen must be born within the confines of the United States to one or more U.S. citizens. I think we may see court cases on this in years to come. If McCain had won, I feel that someone may have legally challenged his natural-born citizenship eventually.
@32
Not enough hours in the day to take out all the trash. You’re doing a good job. I never said it before, but thanks for having the wherewithal to start this site. We may be a niche group of participants with unique experiences that many of the population wouldn’t understand, but it’s nice to have a place to talk about those experiences.
“If McCain had won, I feel that someone may have legally challenged his natural-born citizenship eventually.”
Done: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause discusses it in great detail. It’s interesting that there have already been challenges to Cruz that have been rejected and the overwhelming number of “experts” support his citizenship claim.
I am willing to wait until the GOP decides which way they want to roll before deciding who to support.
I think this settles it (see “(g)”)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
I don’t know, Tbone. I mean, Setnaffa and I are having a civil discussion about natural born citizenship. We might disagree on what the consensus definition of the term, but we are talking it out respectfully. Not exactly groupthink.
There’s much to be gained from a discussion between two adults who might be on opposite ends of an issue, but can calmly and effectively express their thoughts on the matter.
I think that might be why you don’t make a lot of friends around here. Or why people have started to altogether tune you out.
Free speech has limitations. I don’t just mean the “fire in a crowded theater” kind. A website is akin to private property. If you went on someone’s private property and started shouting things they found to be distasteful, they would be within their rights to remove you from the property. GI is completely free to delete anyone’s post here for any reason whatsoever.
Perhaps he chooses to delete yours not because of the content, but because the tone is harsh, abrasive, and honestly, plain annoying.
Really, if not for you being here (at least in the way you conduct yourself at this time), RokDrop would be a better place. In fact, it had been for the past few weeks you weren’t posting.
I invite you to just try for once to discuss issues you feel passionately about without namecalling and petty insults. I promise that at least I would have a respectful conversation with you.
If you read this to the end and find yourself angry, calm down and read it again. It isn’t my intent to make you mad. I honestly would like to see a day that you and I could carry a conversation with maturity and respect here.
I can’t grasp it because it isn’t true.
There are plenty of topics that members here disagree on. We just choose to interact differently than you do when we have a disagreement.
CH,
Side question. I have a power window that won’t go up or down. There are four wires running from the switch to the motor. I am guessing the two larger wires are the positive and negative and the smaller wires are ground.
When I press up on the switch the two large wires both get juice at the point where the harness connects to the motor’s wiring. When I press down, neither gets juice. I am guessing that one wire should get juice when I press up, the other when I press down as the reverse polarity would cycle the motor back and forth.
The motor is good. I got the window back up with speaker wire run directly from the two large wires in the harness to the positive and negative posts on the battery.
The best I can figure, there is something making contact where it shouldn’t in the switch. I examined it and all the soldering seems to be in decent shape. Nothing looks out of place. This is a Honda and a new switch costs over 200 bucks.
Any suggestions? Could these symptoms be from a break in the wiring running to the door and making contact with the frame? As much as I don’t want to pay out for a new switch, I would hate to try and track down and replace a broken wire in all the wires running through the door.
Hmmm… not sure. I hate working on cars and despise many of the near-incomprehensable design choices.
Assuming there is no relay inolved and the switch simply sends 12v to the motor, reversing polarity depending on the up or down being pushed…
My assumptions:
– there are 4 wires going to the switch.
– these are 12v, ground, motor +, motor –
– pressing one direction will send 12v to motor + and ground to motor -. Pressing the other direction will invert this, reversing the direction of the motor.
If this is the case…
– when the switch is not pressed, a 12v bulb should come on when placed on 2 of the wires. These are 12v and Ground. The other two wires are the outputs to the motor and will he connected to nothing when the switch is not pressed.
– when the bulb is placed on the other two wires (out to motor) it should come on when either up or down is pressed. A meter will show atound 12v and -12v.
Possibly:
– contacts are corroded in the switch… take it apart as best you can and rub a little strip of folded sandpaper between them… 800 grit
If you notice any difference than my assumptions, let me know what you find and we will go from there
MTB Rider: “While there is no way the Korean government can force my son to join as long as he is in the States, he might run into problems if he comes to Korea on vacation. Apparently the laws changed in 1999, and he was born in 2000.
Anybody have any experience with this?”
My son is an Italian citizen, and I know back when they had mandatory conscription in the Italian military (think they ended that in 2000, or late 1990…pretty recently) he would have had to make a choice. Either serve or lose citizenship. Seems like that would be an option for your son too…they can’t force him to be a citizen, can they? I don’t know much about ROK law.
“Question: If banned based on IP address, do you believe a certain individual would go quietly into that good night, or find workarounds to come back with a different handle?”
Whatever the answer, it would probably be some good mental exercise for his brain.
Mixing it up a little so he can try to figure out how to get around it.
Kind of like what they do for dementia patients.
I like it, Liz.
Sometimes a negative experience produces positive results.
Face it, BONEHEAD. You don’t bring anything to the conversation, and on the rare occasions when you do, you run away.
You were the one who brought up President Obama’s inceestious lust for his daughters, but you never said if you support your President’s desires, or oppose them. So which is it? Do you want to see your President coupling with his daughters, singly or in pairs, and if in pairs, in series or in parallel? I’ve asked you several times, but you pretend like you didn’t see me ask.
Let’s face it, you haven’t added anything to the conversation, because you don’t know how to have a conversation. You just spew and flee. You’ve been doing that ever since you came to this site, begging for sympathy as you were kicked out of your employer provided apartment. Then you bragged how great your life would be once you got back home. How has that been going for you? Why do you come to this site, if not out of mind numbing loneliness?
I think every time you disappear, you’re in jail, trying to scrape together bail money. Your criminal record in Korea was quite lengthy, public intoxication, public fighting, etc. You make quite the nuisance of yourself wherever you go, don’t you? Probably the result of poor upbringing. One mom, many, many “Uncles.”
Oh, my son was born in Hawaii.
So, not to change the subject, do any of you think Trump and Cruz were basically taking a victory lap at the GOP Debate?
Alternately, could He Who Must Not Be Named now actually be a bot? I mean, like PARRY? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARRY
CH,
I haven’t had time to troubleshoot today. My wife is driving the car. I think your assumptions are correct. I have never opened up a power window switch before, so I’m not sure what it’s supposed to look like, but I feel like this one is more complicated than it needs to be. I am told that American made switches would likely cost around $20. At $200, Honda is…….special…….
There is a relay, but it is in the fuse box under the dash, and is before the switch.
It’s the driver switch, so it has a bit in there for automatic rolldown, but I don’t think that is the problem. The two contacts are in the shape of a V, one contact on each side of the switch, oriented up and down as the button moves. The button itself has two spring loaded pins on the bottom that rest in the valleys of the V’s and when the button is toggled up or down, one pin will slide up and push on the proper contact.
The contacts look to be in okay shape, but I think the problem has to be in the switch somewhere. How likely is it that some soldering has heated up and broken connection, or shifted to touch something it isn’t supposed to?
johnnyboy,
If you can find the part number, you can order online (Amazon or other sources) and often find youtube videos detailing troubleshooting and repair.
Did that with the window switch on my wife’s Buick and the rear door release for my S-10.
Lawyer Challenging Ted Cruz Eligibility Was Suspended From Practice of Law
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/01/15/lawyer-challenging-ted-cruz-eligibility-was-suspended-from-practice-of-law/
Hmmm…
Another story about women empowered… http://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2016/1/13/little-red-riding-hood-has-a-gun/
Thanks Setnaffa,
I did the youtube route. Most videos were about changing the window motor and regulator. Did gain some incite into the components involved though. Found one that helped me with using battery power to directly roll up the window. Youtube is a really good resource for car maintenance.
Gosh, it looks like our troll has removed himself from the conversation…..
20 Years!
That;s what the Seoul Prosecutors are asking for Arthur Patterson for the murder of Cho Choong-Pil.
http://news.yahoo.com/korea-prosecutors-seek-20-years-american-trial-022703518.html
I haven’t followed this case as closely as some others have, but it seems like his luck has finally run out.
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/686933960534802432
“Funny, I haven’t had anyone explain to me why America should be more like Europe lately.”
CH might like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q140HzmoK0U (The Explicit Gospel)
The new Heather Cho Law:
http://news.yahoo.com/south-korea-implements-anti-nut-rage-law-023344152.html
“Thou Shalt Not Flip Out on Thy Peasants, Even If Thou Beist a Princess.”
BTW, have you notices that while other books decrease in price, college textbooks have actually increased in proportion to Federal Aid (including loans) provided?
I’m thinking it’s a great racket…
Oh, yeah! Especially after I was able to buy the previous edition of my Psych 101 book for only $1.
Everyone else paid $78, and here are the list of changes:
1. Rearranged the chapter order. I had to look for a bit (3 min tops) to find where the rest of the class was.
2. One (ONE!) word had been changed in a single sentence. In proper military fashion, I lined out the word, put down the correct word, and initialed the change. That’s it.
Got an A, and saved $77…
Huzzah!!
Actually, what brought this up was me buying the books listed in Heinlein’s Rocket Ship Galileo (on the kid’s lab bookshelf) and wanting to also get the books used in the local community colleges for a Certificate in Electronic Engineering Technology (I already have an AA and BS from the 1980s).
And I’d need a second job to afford the over $2,000.00 in textbooks and lab guides I’d need to complete their little 26 Credit program.
It’s ridiculous!! Most of the same stuff is here: http://www.fcctests.com/neets/neets.htm
I guess I’ll have to hang out in used book stores near the local colleges and universities… See if I can spot a deal…
Funny this should come up.
I was speaking about this very topic 6 hours ago.
I theorized one could simply photocopy the necessary chapters and bring them to class.
Fair Use allows the use of copyrighted material under a number of circumstances… and “performance art” parodying the textbook racket may satisfy these conditions… especially in classes such as math and physics which haven’t changed in generations except for the yearly reorganization of material that keeps new textbooks being sold.
People should be in jail for the current “education” fraud upon young students and the taxpayer.
Great minds work alike, eh?
“Palin says son’s(assaulting wife with AR Rifle) problems are PTSD because of Obama”
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-blames-obama-son-track-legal-problems-article-1.2503589
Ah, BONEHEAD, BONEHEAD, BONEHEAD. You just don’t “get it,” do you?
No one cares what you think, because you are a nuisance.
And, of course, you refuse to say whether you support of oppose your President and his lustful, inceestious desires for his daughters. So strange, since you were the one to bring it up in the first place.
I still feel sorry for him. Having Palin and Cankles both living rent-free in his head must be pretty traumatic.
Stacey Dash calls for elimination of Black History Month and awards that celebrate African-Americans amid Oscars backlash
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/stacey-dash-calls-elimination-black-history-month-article-1.2503364
Denny, are you being redundant?
BONEHEAD, did you change brands of spraypaint? You’re even less coherent than usual.
MTB, please don’t engage the freak. Ignore it until GI works his magic. You just give him more to delete… as he potentially has to delete your comments as well.
If we pretend it doesn’t exist, the conversation is perfectly natural after a daily delete sweep.
Trolls get paid by number of times their name appears.
I cleaned up T-bone’s comments. However, I do have to agree with T-bone that Palin blaming President Obama for her son’s domestic violence arrest is pretty ridiculous.
True enough, CH. This will be my last one.
Setnaffa, you missed one: Our Very Own Chickenhead lives in BONEHEAD’s brain, rent free as well. Taking beer out of the fridge, leaving Cheetos crumbs on the couch, and tossing used Kleenexes on the coffee table.
Shoulda just left Korea, and never looked back. Even if you quit this site, CH will be in your mind. Forever… ever… ever…
LOL. Good thing I put the coffee cup down. Laptop keykoards cost more than $2… But how do you know so much about CH’s habits and He Who Must Not Be Named’s mental furniture? 😐
Wait. Don’t tell me. Please. 😯
Another school shooting…
…oh, wait.
“Canada school shooting: four confirmed dead as lockdown is lifted”
They already banned guns so that doesn’t fit the agenda… better not put that in the news.
“They already banned guns so that doesn’t fit the agenda… better not put that in the news.”
We had a lockdown at the highschool here (I have to tell you it is a little surreal to get a text from your son that says, “We’re in lockdown now.”
Apparently an 11 year old girl who had never seen a gun before told her mother that she thought she saw a guy carrying a rifle when they dropped her brother off at school.
Short story: It was a large black umbrella. The gym teacher was carrying it, and they ahve given him another bright pink one since.
But I have to tell you this is an area of the country where so many people have guns and concealed carry permits and are involved in one way or another with the military…whether the coast guard or reserve of whatnot, it was quite interesting to watch what happened.
Parents surrounded the perimeter of the school and waited with their cells. The swat team and dogs and so forth came into the school while everyone else waited on the outside.
Every single person was armed to the hilt. Eventually the cops called it in as a ruse but I can tell you if it had been real the culprits wouldn’t have been able to get away with what they did in Norway or Paris.
I said “I can tell you” a few too many times above.
Wishing for that edit feature.
Cold Anger, a good article for anyone who wonders at Trump’s popularity:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/27/cold-anger/
Wouldn’t it be nice if folks who know nothing about guns stopped scaring people?
By the time armed parents on the perimeter heard any shooting from a spree killer, it would be too late to rush the school and do much good.
I think the solution is to see something, say something. Clog the system with bogus reports of men with guns until the system breaks down and becomes dysfunctional… then maybe some degree personal responsibility in action and judgement will return.