Here is actually something I can agree with David Hogg on:
Gun control advocate David Hogg called on the press to stop using the name and image of the 17-year-old student who police say carried out the mass shooting at a Texas high school on Friday.
“We make these sick people known worldwide for their horrifying acts, let’s stop that,” Hogg tweeted Sunday. The teen survived February’s school shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.
This is something I have been saying for years to treat these mass shooters like streakers at sporting events. Don’t show them on TV or use their names. I believe this would do more to stop mass shootings then so called assault rifle ban considering this last shooting was done with a shotgun and a handgun.
I also think making people legally obligated to secure their weapons properly would also help stop some of these shootings if parents’ guns cannot be easily accessed by their kids. Finally parents need to start being parents and stop their kids from playing all these violent video games and watching violent movies that desensitizes them to violence at a young age.
ChickenHead
6 years ago
Blaming violent video games and movies for school shootings is like blaming the spoon for getting you fat.
Copies of Grand Theft Auto sold: 95 million
School Shootings: somewhat fewer than 95 million
Mcgeehee
6 years ago
Grandpa Joe would always say, “A tired kid is a good kid”. He ran a dairy farm and my cousins & I were living proof of that concept. If this nation could somehow put all kids to work on a farm (or physical labor doing something), there would be no time for this kind of malarkey.
Liz
6 years ago
Grandpa Joe had it right, McGeehee.
Though likely 95 million kids today are either bored, idol, or semi-idol (especially by comparison to Grandpa Joe’s day), and somewhat fewer than 95 million school shootings happen….
Grandpa Joe still has it right.
Liz
6 years ago
LOL not idol, idle, meant to say above.
setnaffa
6 years ago
Unstructured time spent on bad websites and playing bad videogames is not the same as blaming the spoon.
Children are as their parents train them. Failure to train them to do good means they seek out training that appeals to their immature appetites.
We’ve seen this story played out too many times.
ChickenHead
6 years ago
Again you blame the spoon.
The parent, or the hand that controls the spoon in our extended metaphor, should get most of the blame.
…but, technically, if you lock kids in a box or remove all the guns, there will be no school shootings.
Famine also keeps the fatties in check no matter how many spoons they own.
Flyingsword
6 years ago
Two words on the school shootings…psychotropic drugs. Anti-depressants; anti-anxiety, and ADHD meds alone or in combination all have the side effect of suicidal and or homicidal thoughts.
johnnyboy
6 years ago
CH,
Perhaps violent video games effect certain kids differently. Not to say it’s the number one cause, but I think it may play a role in desensitizing some kids who are already vulnerable or likely to display sociopathic behavior. Just a theory.
Anecdotally, I stopped playing online FPS games a couple years ago. Even in my late 20’s early 30’s I noticed that my mood would change after playing them for a couple of hours. I became more irritable and prone to lose my cool over seemingly insignificant things. If it has that effect on me, what might it be doing to the preteen or young teen mind? Again, just a theory.
Similar to guns, I don’t think the answer is to take away violent games from everyone. When it comes down to it I agree with you. I think it largely goes back to shitty parenting practices.
Smokes
6 years ago
As someone who played Counter Strike and Medal of Honor I can say that neither of those or any other game that included violence warped my sense of what’s right/wrong to the point where I see shooting people as a reasonable solution to any problem I have.
However.
As a child growing up I really didn’t have access to much entertainment that had violence beyond things like the Atari 2600’s “Combat”: which really doesn’t register on even the most religious org’s gore meter.
I don’t put much stock in any individual game’s ability to weaponize the youth. I do though think that there’s a problem when over 90% of the games available you spend all your time looking down the barrel of a weapon and you shoot stuff. Take a peek on Steam and the various console sites for what today’s game library consists of and overwhelmingly it’s saturated with not just violent games but overtly violent.
Banning violent games, nah… but how about lessening the exposure that children have to them at the start?
ChickenHead
6 years ago
How about parents determine what is best for their kids and manage the situation.
If Little Billy is so fųcked up he needs 20 assorted daily meds and an emotional support pony, maybe he should be kept away from Black Rifle School Massacre video games and daddy’s gun closet should be locked up real tight.
The other 74.6 million kids in American schools can play games and go to the gun range.
Has there been a school shooter yet who surprised anyone? Half of them did exactly what their peers expected them to do.
When TV replaced parenting, this all started. Now drugs have replaced parenting.
…and meds have replaced discipline… as there is no need to give Little Billy a liberally-incorrect swat if he has been drugged into submission.
I think everyone was surprised at a bullied loner with obviously no parental supervision, a kid who obviously frequented websites devoted to murderers, a kid whose personal hygiene and judgement were flawed, a kid who dressed up like the Columbine killers. How could anyone suspect a psychotic or sociopathic response from such a “sweet kid”?
I mean, it’s not as though he was trying to spread Christianity or protest against tax-payer-funded abortions…
Notice in my comment I said people need to parent better and not let their kids play violent video games and watch violent movies. I don’t think today’s media will cause kids to go commit shootings on its own, but for kids that may have mental issues today’s media desensitizes them to violence to where I think it contributes to them committing these shootings. Just like I think the media culture that glorifies the killers with their picture and name shown everywhere also contributes to the shootings.
setnaffa
6 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5nM7PPbuKI&t=1766s
Ten Marty Robbins Songs that never inspired a school shooting:
Big Iron
Cool Water
Billy the Kid
A Hundred and Sixty Acres
They’re Hanging Me Tonight
The Strawberry Roan
El Paso
In The Valley
The Master’s Call
Running Gun
Here is actually something I can agree with David Hogg on:
This is something I have been saying for years to treat these mass shooters like streakers at sporting events. Don’t show them on TV or use their names. I believe this would do more to stop mass shootings then so called assault rifle ban considering this last shooting was done with a shotgun and a handgun.
I also think making people legally obligated to secure their weapons properly would also help stop some of these shootings if parents’ guns cannot be easily accessed by their kids. Finally parents need to start being parents and stop their kids from playing all these violent video games and watching violent movies that desensitizes them to violence at a young age.
Blaming violent video games and movies for school shootings is like blaming the spoon for getting you fat.
Copies of Grand Theft Auto sold: 95 million
School Shootings: somewhat fewer than 95 million
Grandpa Joe would always say, “A tired kid is a good kid”. He ran a dairy farm and my cousins & I were living proof of that concept. If this nation could somehow put all kids to work on a farm (or physical labor doing something), there would be no time for this kind of malarkey.
Grandpa Joe had it right, McGeehee.
Though likely 95 million kids today are either bored, idol, or semi-idol (especially by comparison to Grandpa Joe’s day), and somewhat fewer than 95 million school shootings happen….
Grandpa Joe still has it right.
LOL not idol, idle, meant to say above.
Unstructured time spent on bad websites and playing bad videogames is not the same as blaming the spoon.
Children are as their parents train them. Failure to train them to do good means they seek out training that appeals to their immature appetites.
We’ve seen this story played out too many times.
Again you blame the spoon.
The parent, or the hand that controls the spoon in our extended metaphor, should get most of the blame.
…but, technically, if you lock kids in a box or remove all the guns, there will be no school shootings.
Famine also keeps the fatties in check no matter how many spoons they own.
Two words on the school shootings…psychotropic drugs. Anti-depressants; anti-anxiety, and ADHD meds alone or in combination all have the side effect of suicidal and or homicidal thoughts.
CH,
Perhaps violent video games effect certain kids differently. Not to say it’s the number one cause, but I think it may play a role in desensitizing some kids who are already vulnerable or likely to display sociopathic behavior. Just a theory.
Anecdotally, I stopped playing online FPS games a couple years ago. Even in my late 20’s early 30’s I noticed that my mood would change after playing them for a couple of hours. I became more irritable and prone to lose my cool over seemingly insignificant things. If it has that effect on me, what might it be doing to the preteen or young teen mind? Again, just a theory.
Similar to guns, I don’t think the answer is to take away violent games from everyone. When it comes down to it I agree with you. I think it largely goes back to shitty parenting practices.
As someone who played Counter Strike and Medal of Honor I can say that neither of those or any other game that included violence warped my sense of what’s right/wrong to the point where I see shooting people as a reasonable solution to any problem I have.
However.
As a child growing up I really didn’t have access to much entertainment that had violence beyond things like the Atari 2600’s “Combat”:
which really doesn’t register on even the most religious org’s gore meter.
I don’t put much stock in any individual game’s ability to weaponize the youth. I do though think that there’s a problem when over 90% of the games available you spend all your time looking down the barrel of a weapon and you shoot stuff. Take a peek on Steam and the various console sites for what today’s game library consists of and overwhelmingly it’s saturated with not just violent games but overtly violent.
Banning violent games, nah… but how about lessening the exposure that children have to them at the start?
How about parents determine what is best for their kids and manage the situation.
If Little Billy is so fųcked up he needs 20 assorted daily meds and an emotional support pony, maybe he should be kept away from Black Rifle School Massacre video games and daddy’s gun closet should be locked up real tight.
The other 74.6 million kids in American schools can play games and go to the gun range.
Has there been a school shooter yet who surprised anyone? Half of them did exactly what their peers expected them to do.
When TV replaced parenting, this all started. Now drugs have replaced parenting.
…and meds have replaced discipline… as there is no need to give Little Billy a liberally-incorrect swat if he has been drugged into submission.
CH has it right too as usual.
From a forum linked to in the past here, I’ve been following it since:
http://professorconfess.blogspot.com/2018/05/statistical-drugs-depression-and.html
Teen suicide rates up 70 percent in 10 years.
I think everyone was surprised at a bullied loner with obviously no parental supervision, a kid who obviously frequented websites devoted to murderers, a kid whose personal hygiene and judgement were flawed, a kid who dressed up like the Columbine killers. How could anyone suspect a psychotic or sociopathic response from such a “sweet kid”?
I mean, it’s not as though he was trying to spread Christianity or protest against tax-payer-funded abortions…
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2018/05/356_249407.html
Commies in Seoul crying poor now over USFK cost sharing.
Notice in my comment I said people need to parent better and not let their kids play violent video games and watch violent movies. I don’t think today’s media will cause kids to go commit shootings on its own, but for kids that may have mental issues today’s media desensitizes them to violence to where I think it contributes to them committing these shootings. Just like I think the media culture that glorifies the killers with their picture and name shown everywhere also contributes to the shootings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5nM7PPbuKI&t=1766s
Ten Marty Robbins Songs that never inspired a school shooting:
Big Iron
Cool Water
Billy the Kid
A Hundred and Sixty Acres
They’re Hanging Me Tonight
The Strawberry Roan
El Paso
In The Valley
The Master’s Call
Running Gun
http://img.koreatimes.co.kr/upload/thumbnailV2/sssssssssssss(2).jpg
Moon and Fatty – closer than lips and teeth!