Anyone have accurate stats on COVID vs other similar diseases in South Korea? Negative tests, Infections, Hospitalizations, Deaths? Demographics of each category by age, gender, BMI, other diseases that might be labeled a comorbidity?
ChickenHead
2 years ago
Who cares, Setnaffa?
Covid is so last week. More like co-did.
Now it is black trans lives matter in Ukraine… or something.
Whatever distracts from shocking inflation, encroaching government, and the food shortage.
Even before it failed, it was needless for the military demographic.
A good argument could be made that readiness would actually be INCREASED if unchecked covid was allowed to thin the military herd.
Why is anyone still taking the vaccine seriously in any way?
Probably because military leadership can only win battles against military members.
They demonstratably can’t beat goat herders and they dare not tangle with Russians.
All the modern military can do is imagine white people care about blacks, gays, and trannies… and when they find out white people are too busy to care, shower these groups with attention and special treatment until white people are forced to care… but not in a good way.
Perhaps the loss of a carrier group will force everyone involved, from the dumbed-down American people to anti-American politicians to limp-wristed military “leadership”, to get their priorities straight. But it is getting harder to count on that.
Meanwhile, let’s force the military to get a vaccine that doesn’t work for a disease that won’t hurt them.
That is a battle that can be won!
setnaffa
2 years ago
Just gonna leave this here…
Korean Man
2 years ago
No more quarantines for overseas visitors and tourists who were vaccinated prior to arrival.
Most, if not all COVID restrictions are coming down, even masking mandates. Starting April 18, all restrictions on social gatherings will end. Along with it, the requirement to wear masks outdoors will also end.
The only remaining restriction that I see that may still stand will be the requirement to wear masks indoors in public spaces, as South Korea is seeing its infection positive rates come down recently, passing the peak. I dare to say, South Korea is almost 90% there, in terms of back to normal life, where it was before the worldwide pandemic started.
Some foreign media are saying that South Korea with its 90% vaccination rate with relatively low deaths compared to the EU and US, will be the first country in the world that will treat COVID as an endemic disease. Due to the highly infectious nature of Omicron (at the same time, lower death rates), it doesn’t really make sense anymore to implement the same restrictive policies as they did when the Delta variant was dominant.
All thanks to the way how the current government that is on its way out, handled the pandemic. If you want to see what it would have looked like if the Conservatives were in power when the COVID hit, look no further than in 2015 and how they handled the MERS emergency. The incompetence of the Park Geun-Hye government made the country into a laughing stock for the world at that time. The record of the Conservative party is terrible if you look back in Korean history. This includes how they sparked and ultimately just watched South Korea’s humiliating financial collapse followed by a $50 billion IMF bailout in 1997 – another disaster that they were responsible for.
Last edited 2 years ago by Korean Man
setnaffa
2 years ago
Some science-deniers are smarter than others; but those who actively seek to be slaves still have my contempt.
CNN reported, “Both Korea and New Zealand have very high vaccination rates. Crucially, these countries have intensively vaccinated patients and the elderly who are at high risk of dying from COVID-19 infection.
According to the cumulative fatality rate of COVID-19 by country announced by the World Health Organization (WHO) (as of the 21st of last month), the cumulative fatality rate in the United States was 1.22%, but in Korea, it was 0.13%, one tenth that of the United States. It is significantly lower than the UK (0.8%), Germany (0.65%) and France (0.58%).
“China and Hong Kong are seeing worrisome spreads as seniors are delayed in getting vaccinated,” CNN said. According to the National Health Commission of China (NHC), about 40 million Chinese over the age of 60 have not yet been vaccinated. On the 18th of last month, the NHC said, “Only half of the population over the age of 80 have been vaccinated. Less than 20% of the population over the age of 80 received the booster shot.”
Both China and Hong Kong are interesting cases. Not only do they have low vaccination rates for seniors which is exactly the reason why Hong Kong hospitals have bodies upon bodies piling up in their hospital corridors. It’s also understandable why China is going to extreme steps like locking down entire cities like Shanghai and forcing the entire city’s population to take the PCR tests. China only has Chinese-made vaccines which were proven to be ineffective in preventing deaths from Omicron. They have no choice but to lock down their cities.
Korean Man
2 years ago
Anyone have accurate stats on COVID vs other similar diseases in South Korea? Negative tests, Infections, Hospitalizations, Deaths? Demographics of each category by age, gender, BMI, other diseases that might be labeled a comorbidity?
Cancer brain, here’s a good article answering that. It has all the figures for South Korea that you’re looking for.
Basically the article said South Korea bought precious time for 2 years, by using vaccinations, contact tracing, social distancing, PCR testing, and quarantine. It not only saved lives, but it will also save more lives as Korea removes restrictions and opens up. The country is shifting its strategy to meet the changing characteristics of the disease, prepared to live with COVID. This is only possible because Korea bought time to prepare for it, in the last two years.
setnaffa
2 years ago
Captain Ahab using the Telegraph as a source of actual statistics shows my previous post was on the money. He should look up the definition of dogma, as that’s all he seems to possess.
Does anyone have a source of actual statistics? We’ve already heard all the opinions from all sides and the adults want to do some science.
ChickenHead
2 years ago
The statistic that answers all questions is:
85% of people killed by covid in America were obese.
Bonus:
Not one government said exercise and take vitamin D.
And with that knowledge, we know the goal was never to prevent covid deaths.
For some fùcking reason, the only goal has been to inject as much of an experimental yet ineffective substance into as many people as possible… and keep doing it as long as people cooperate… and trick, entice, or force the uncooperative.
None of this is rational… unless it is explained with conspiracy and bad intentions.
But I no longer care. The vaccine has been exposed as such a failure that even the biggest vaxtards are waking up and talking shìt. Good for them.
Now we just sit back for a year and see if the first wave of predictions of actual science come true or not.
Will the vaccinated catch covid at a higher rate than the naturally immune?
Will the vaccinated catch covid again and again in the August and December waves?
Will the vaccinated catch non-covid colds at a higher rate than the non-vaccinated?
My limited personal observations show there to currently be no relationship between vaccine status and covid infection or severity.
I have also observed a few vaccinated people fighting chronic low-level colds for months… continious minor coughing and nose blowing.
My experience doesn’t replace good statistics… which we will never get. But when everybody starts making the same observations there might be some form of societal awareness.
…or not. America has all sorts of social problems because the average person can’t see relationships, cause and effect, or second order consequences.
But the vaccinated catching covid isn’t my problem and I will resist it being made my problem.
Next we wait 5 years to evaluate the longer term effects of the vaccine.
Will there be immune system issues?
Will there be heart problems?
Now that the vaxtards are becoming disillusioned, they are talking. In the last week I have had 3 people tell me about their heart problems after taking the vaccine. Only one went to the hospital… in which the doctor said it is common and nothing to worry about.
I am old enough to remember when any abnormal heart issue was considered a medical emergency worthy of testing rather than casual dismissal… but that is so 2019.
So let’s sit back and watch what happens.
We can already be pretty sure the vaccine will not create a race of super men and women nor will it protect much against new strains so at the very best that can be hoped for, the vaccine will do nothing.
More likely, it will do something not good.
Let’s hope.
Vaxtards can’t push their mental illness off on other when they have their own problems to deal with.
Isn’t it funny – chickendead keeps saying he no longer cares yet he jumps back on that soap box every chance he gets.
😉
Mcgeehee
2 years ago
Why won’t they just declare an end to the pandemic?
World-wide mortality never exceeded 0.1 percent.
It’s over.
If it ever was a pandemic to start with. Oh, that’s right, the WHO had to change the definition of a pandemic to keep this one going. They removed the “high mortality” criteria and replaced the language with “endemic disease” … which could be anything (like obesity).
One reason they won’t end it is the WHO is drafting/negotiating a world-wide treaty that will make the WHO the global health authority for the next pandemic. The WHO will have authority to force vaccines, vaccine passports, masking, lockdowns, and restrict travel. Signatory nations forfeit their medical sovereignty to the WHO. In the US that would mean federal and state no longer has any health authority during a pandemic; all authority is conceded to the global health authorities at the WHO.
And you didn’t think it could get any worse.
ChickenHead
2 years ago
“Isn’t it funny – chickendead keeps saying he no longer cares yet he jumps back on that soap box every chance he gets.”
You misunderstand, Tbone2.
I don’t care about you.
I do care about rubbing it in.
After more than a year of the vaxtards trying to push their bad intentions or mental illness off on me, trying to restrict me from buying food, and calling for me to be in a camp, it brings me great pleasure to watch as they get covid anyway.
And it bring me great pleasure to hear them say, “You were right”, “This vaccine is bullshìt”, and “This was all for nothing”.
They volunteered to be the subject of a failed medical experiment. That is fine. I did not volunteer and I don’t want to be forced. I wish nothing short of a stressful short life, regretful sickness, and a painful death on those who tried.
All the science was quite clear when the vaccine came out to predict exactly what is happening. I have no expectation for any of the vaxtards to take my word for it. But I have no pity that they refused to spend an hour on Google past the first pages of propaganda to see if maybe what I said checked out in any way.
All the science is also quite clear that a percentage of the vaccinated are going to have problems over the coming years.
I do care about that… but not in a good and compassionate way… primarily because I don’t see the willingly vaccinated as people. They are lab rats and Pavlov’s little dogs doing as they are guided. They are mentally ill… paranoid with conspiracy theories that covid is a danger to them despite easily available statistics showing it is clearly not.
And they allowed themselves to have an untested substance built on experimental technology to be irreversibly injected into their bodies where it did some planned things of questionable benefit… and unplanned things in a percentage of people… for which the long-term effects are unclear.
So I do care about this because I find it highly satisfying to rub it in. And I will find it more satisfying if a noticeable percentage of the vaxtards wind up with horrible side effects…
…which destroys all trust in the currently untrustworthy institutions that the vaxtards still trust for some unknown reason.
And when nobody trusts these institutions, it makes it harder to push their crazy off on me and it makes it easier for me to be left alone.
That’s all I really want.
setnaffa
2 years ago
Well said, McG and CH.
Korean Man
2 years ago
World-wide mortality never exceeded 0.1 percent.
That’s Korea’s number, which makes COVID, the same as a bad flu epidemic. However, in the US, the mortality rate is over ten times that number.
ChickenHead
2 years ago
Korea Man… who knows what the American mortality rate is.
Between “with covid” and “from covid” the numbers have been so fluffed it is hard to know the truth.
We do know 85% if those who died were obese. Korea doesn’t have nearly the same percentage of obese people.
We know that Korea worked hard to protect high risk groups while America was putting the infected in nursing homes… something the media remains uncurious about.
So it is no surprise America’s number are higher… as there was fraud, negligence, and bad intent.
Korea almost seemed like they wanted to reduce covid deaths… though the Moon administration followed their anti-Korean globalist masters in the end.
– destroyed small business
– never had a campaign to ensure high vitamin D levels
– went along with the lie that very safe and heavily used drugs like Ivermectin and HCQ, with established antiviral properties were not to be used or even investigated
– through social engineering and eventually coercion, injected everyone with a mystery vaccine that, whatever purpose it may have, doesn’t seem to be stopping covid
The history books will write about all this. How it will be framed depends on who wins the culture war… the intrusive Karan & Vaxtard Horde or sensible people trying to succeed in life and asking only to be left alone.
Korean Person
2 years ago
Captain Ahab using the Telegraph as a source of actual statistics shows my previous post was on the money.
Articles 1 and 2 of Setnaffarism™
Article 1
The only truth is the world that exists only in my head. Everything else is not true, and should not be believed.
Article 2
Should others present facts that do not fit with the world that exists only in my head, fight vigorously against it. For if the others look over the facts and find them to be true, it will show that the world that exists only in my head is not true.
If necessary, call those who present the facts, “leftists”, if this helps to discredit them.
Use sockpuppets to amplify the message.
ChickenHead
2 years ago
Nice try, Korea Person but… no… not even a nice try.
You nether refute the facts presented to you nor do you supply alternative facts and thoughtful analysis.
You just whine about sock puppets and such.
It doesn’t matter if we are all the same person or not. Just list the facts and analysis presented and explain why they are wrong. Easy.
Bonus: When Liz comes out, Setnaffa looks hot in latex thigh-highs, g-string, and tube top. You just wish you were lucky enough to peep through the window.
Anyone have accurate stats on COVID vs other similar diseases in South Korea? Negative tests, Infections, Hospitalizations, Deaths? Demographics of each category by age, gender, BMI, other diseases that might be labeled a comorbidity?
Who cares, Setnaffa?
Covid is so last week. More like co-did.
Now it is black trans lives matter in Ukraine… or something.
Whatever distracts from shocking inflation, encroaching government, and the food shortage.
No more vaccine mandate for US Navy?
https://humanevents.com/2022/03/30/judge-blocks-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-for-navy/
DeSantis has a VanZant song of his own now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRUm3dQTqa4
The vaccine is a medical experiment that failed.
Even before it failed, it was needless for the military demographic.
A good argument could be made that readiness would actually be INCREASED if unchecked covid was allowed to thin the military herd.
Why is anyone still taking the vaccine seriously in any way?
Probably because military leadership can only win battles against military members.
They demonstratably can’t beat goat herders and they dare not tangle with Russians.
All the modern military can do is imagine white people care about blacks, gays, and trannies… and when they find out white people are too busy to care, shower these groups with attention and special treatment until white people are forced to care… but not in a good way.
Perhaps the loss of a carrier group will force everyone involved, from the dumbed-down American people to anti-American politicians to limp-wristed military “leadership”, to get their priorities straight. But it is getting harder to count on that.
Meanwhile, let’s force the military to get a vaccine that doesn’t work for a disease that won’t hurt them.
That is a battle that can be won!
Just gonna leave this here…
No more quarantines for overseas visitors and tourists who were vaccinated prior to arrival.
Most, if not all COVID restrictions are coming down, even masking mandates. Starting April 18, all restrictions on social gatherings will end. Along with it, the requirement to wear masks outdoors will also end.
The only remaining restriction that I see that may still stand will be the requirement to wear masks indoors in public spaces, as South Korea is seeing its infection positive rates come down recently, passing the peak. I dare to say, South Korea is almost 90% there, in terms of back to normal life, where it was before the worldwide pandemic started.
Some foreign media are saying that South Korea with its 90% vaccination rate with relatively low deaths compared to the EU and US, will be the first country in the world that will treat COVID as an endemic disease. Due to the highly infectious nature of Omicron (at the same time, lower death rates), it doesn’t really make sense anymore to implement the same restrictive policies as they did when the Delta variant was dominant.
All thanks to the way how the current government that is on its way out, handled the pandemic. If you want to see what it would have looked like if the Conservatives were in power when the COVID hit, look no further than in 2015 and how they handled the MERS emergency. The incompetence of the Park Geun-Hye government made the country into a laughing stock for the world at that time. The record of the Conservative party is terrible if you look back in Korean history. This includes how they sparked and ultimately just watched South Korea’s humiliating financial collapse followed by a $50 billion IMF bailout in 1997 – another disaster that they were responsible for.
Some science-deniers are smarter than others; but those who actively seek to be slaves still have my contempt.
https://news.v.daum.net/v/20220402174602038
Both China and Hong Kong are interesting cases. Not only do they have low vaccination rates for seniors which is exactly the reason why Hong Kong hospitals have bodies upon bodies piling up in their hospital corridors. It’s also understandable why China is going to extreme steps like locking down entire cities like Shanghai and forcing the entire city’s population to take the PCR tests. China only has Chinese-made vaccines which were proven to be ineffective in preventing deaths from Omicron. They have no choice but to lock down their cities.
Cancer brain, here’s a good article answering that. It has all the figures for South Korea that you’re looking for.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/south-korea-can-teach-world-live-covid/
Basically the article said South Korea bought precious time for 2 years, by using vaccinations, contact tracing, social distancing, PCR testing, and quarantine. It not only saved lives, but it will also save more lives as Korea removes restrictions and opens up. The country is shifting its strategy to meet the changing characteristics of the disease, prepared to live with COVID. This is only possible because Korea bought time to prepare for it, in the last two years.
Captain Ahab using the Telegraph as a source of actual statistics shows my previous post was on the money. He should look up the definition of dogma, as that’s all he seems to possess.
Does anyone have a source of actual statistics? We’ve already heard all the opinions from all sides and the adults want to do some science.
The statistic that answers all questions is:
85% of people killed by covid in America were obese.
Bonus:
Not one government said exercise and take vitamin D.
And with that knowledge, we know the goal was never to prevent covid deaths.
For some fùcking reason, the only goal has been to inject as much of an experimental yet ineffective substance into as many people as possible… and keep doing it as long as people cooperate… and trick, entice, or force the uncooperative.
None of this is rational… unless it is explained with conspiracy and bad intentions.
But I no longer care. The vaccine has been exposed as such a failure that even the biggest vaxtards are waking up and talking shìt. Good for them.
Now we just sit back for a year and see if the first wave of predictions of actual science come true or not.
Will the vaccinated catch covid at a higher rate than the naturally immune?
Will the vaccinated catch covid again and again in the August and December waves?
Will the vaccinated catch non-covid colds at a higher rate than the non-vaccinated?
My limited personal observations show there to currently be no relationship between vaccine status and covid infection or severity.
I have also observed a few vaccinated people fighting chronic low-level colds for months… continious minor coughing and nose blowing.
My experience doesn’t replace good statistics… which we will never get. But when everybody starts making the same observations there might be some form of societal awareness.
…or not. America has all sorts of social problems because the average person can’t see relationships, cause and effect, or second order consequences.
But the vaccinated catching covid isn’t my problem and I will resist it being made my problem.
Next we wait 5 years to evaluate the longer term effects of the vaccine.
Will there be immune system issues?
Will there be heart problems?
Now that the vaxtards are becoming disillusioned, they are talking. In the last week I have had 3 people tell me about their heart problems after taking the vaccine. Only one went to the hospital… in which the doctor said it is common and nothing to worry about.
I am old enough to remember when any abnormal heart issue was considered a medical emergency worthy of testing rather than casual dismissal… but that is so 2019.
So let’s sit back and watch what happens.
We can already be pretty sure the vaccine will not create a race of super men and women nor will it protect much against new strains so at the very best that can be hoped for, the vaccine will do nothing.
More likely, it will do something not good.
Let’s hope.
Vaxtards can’t push their mental illness off on other when they have their own problems to deal with.
Follow your doctor’s advice.
Saber-rattling is back on the menu, boys!
https://www.foxnews.com/world/north-korea-threatens-retaliation-preemtive-strike-south-korean-official
Isn’t it funny – chickendead keeps saying he no longer cares yet he jumps back on that soap box every chance he gets.
😉
Why won’t they just declare an end to the pandemic?
World-wide mortality never exceeded 0.1 percent.
It’s over.
If it ever was a pandemic to start with. Oh, that’s right, the WHO had to change the definition of a pandemic to keep this one going. They removed the “high mortality” criteria and replaced the language with “endemic disease” … which could be anything (like obesity).
One reason they won’t end it is the WHO is drafting/negotiating a world-wide treaty that will make the WHO the global health authority for the next pandemic. The WHO will have authority to force vaccines, vaccine passports, masking, lockdowns, and restrict travel. Signatory nations forfeit their medical sovereignty to the WHO. In the US that would mean federal and state no longer has any health authority during a pandemic; all authority is conceded to the global health authorities at the WHO.
And you didn’t think it could get any worse.
“Isn’t it funny – chickendead keeps saying he no longer cares yet he jumps back on that soap box every chance he gets.”
You misunderstand, Tbone2.
I don’t care about you.
I do care about rubbing it in.
After more than a year of the vaxtards trying to push their bad intentions or mental illness off on me, trying to restrict me from buying food, and calling for me to be in a camp, it brings me great pleasure to watch as they get covid anyway.
And it bring me great pleasure to hear them say, “You were right”, “This vaccine is bullshìt”, and “This was all for nothing”.
They volunteered to be the subject of a failed medical experiment. That is fine. I did not volunteer and I don’t want to be forced. I wish nothing short of a stressful short life, regretful sickness, and a painful death on those who tried.
All the science was quite clear when the vaccine came out to predict exactly what is happening. I have no expectation for any of the vaxtards to take my word for it. But I have no pity that they refused to spend an hour on Google past the first pages of propaganda to see if maybe what I said checked out in any way.
All the science is also quite clear that a percentage of the vaccinated are going to have problems over the coming years.
I do care about that… but not in a good and compassionate way… primarily because I don’t see the willingly vaccinated as people. They are lab rats and Pavlov’s little dogs doing as they are guided. They are mentally ill… paranoid with conspiracy theories that covid is a danger to them despite easily available statistics showing it is clearly not.
And they allowed themselves to have an untested substance built on experimental technology to be irreversibly injected into their bodies where it did some planned things of questionable benefit… and unplanned things in a percentage of people… for which the long-term effects are unclear.
So I do care about this because I find it highly satisfying to rub it in. And I will find it more satisfying if a noticeable percentage of the vaxtards wind up with horrible side effects…
…which destroys all trust in the currently untrustworthy institutions that the vaxtards still trust for some unknown reason.
And when nobody trusts these institutions, it makes it harder to push their crazy off on me and it makes it easier for me to be left alone.
That’s all I really want.
Well said, McG and CH.
That’s Korea’s number, which makes COVID, the same as a bad flu epidemic. However, in the US, the mortality rate is over ten times that number.
Korea Man… who knows what the American mortality rate is.
Between “with covid” and “from covid” the numbers have been so fluffed it is hard to know the truth.
We do know 85% if those who died were obese. Korea doesn’t have nearly the same percentage of obese people.
We know that Korea worked hard to protect high risk groups while America was putting the infected in nursing homes… something the media remains uncurious about.
So it is no surprise America’s number are higher… as there was fraud, negligence, and bad intent.
Korea almost seemed like they wanted to reduce covid deaths… though the Moon administration followed their anti-Korean globalist masters in the end.
– destroyed small business
– never had a campaign to ensure high vitamin D levels
– went along with the lie that very safe and heavily used drugs like Ivermectin and HCQ, with established antiviral properties were not to be used or even investigated
– through social engineering and eventually coercion, injected everyone with a mystery vaccine that, whatever purpose it may have, doesn’t seem to be stopping covid
The history books will write about all this. How it will be framed depends on who wins the culture war… the intrusive Karan & Vaxtard Horde or sensible people trying to succeed in life and asking only to be left alone.
Captain Ahab using the Telegraph as a source of actual statistics shows my previous post was on the money.
Articles 1 and 2 of Setnaffarism™
Article 1
The only truth is the world that exists only in my head. Everything else is not true, and should not be believed.
Article 2
Should others present facts that do not fit with the world that exists only in my head, fight vigorously against it. For if the others look over the facts and find them to be true, it will show that the world that exists only in my head is not true.
If necessary, call those who present the facts, “leftists”, if this helps to discredit them.
Use sockpuppets to amplify the message.
Nice try, Korea Person but… no… not even a nice try.
You nether refute the facts presented to you nor do you supply alternative facts and thoughtful analysis.
You just whine about sock puppets and such.
It doesn’t matter if we are all the same person or not. Just list the facts and analysis presented and explain why they are wrong. Easy.
Bonus: When Liz comes out, Setnaffa looks hot in latex thigh-highs, g-string, and tube top. You just wish you were lucky enough to peep through the window.
https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=326799
Commie moon using lawsuits to silence journalists writing about wife’s tourism diplomacy.
It’s interesting to this old B-52 gunner that my favorite bomb truck can allegedly carry 180 SDBs:
https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/b-52-specs.htm
Now, I’d hate to see a need for that; but the capability for a 60 year old aircraft is rather amazing…
Still, I’d rather find a good galbi restaurant and then go out for a decent cup of coffee.