One day a group of scientists got together and decided that humanity had come a long way and no longer needed God. So they picked one scientist to go and tell Him that they were done with Him. The scientist walked up to God and said, “God, we’ve decided that we no longer need you. We’re to the point where we can clone people, manipulate atoms, build molecules, fly through space, and do many other miraculous things. So why don’t you just go away and mind your own business from now on?”
God listened very patiently and kindly to the man. After the scientist was done talking, God said, “Very well. How about this? Before I go, let’s say we have a human-making contest.” To which the scientist replied, “Okay, we can handle that!”
“But,” God added, “we’re going to do this just like I did back in the old days with Adam.”
The scientist nodded, “Sure, no problem” and bent down and picked up a handful of dirt. God wagged a finger at him and said, “Uh, uh, uh. Put that down. You go find your own dirt.”
Myxofibrosarcoma (MFS) is a malignant fibroblastic/myofibroblastic neoplasm with the prominent myxoid area. It has the clinical features of frequent local recurrence and occasional distant metastasis. Morphologically, MFS is occasionally difficult to distinguish from undifferentiated pleomorphic sarcoma (UPS), especially in the case of high-grade MFS.
Cancer-free. That’s a good feeling. But can one ever really be cancer-free again? Whatever caused those cells to go sideways and start working for the enemy might still be there. Even after five years of “remission” (after chemotherapy, radiation therapy, and multiple surgeries), it might come back. What can one do?
You know, it’s the same with communism and all the other “-isms” that put material things above people.. All they do is warp, starve, and destroy; but they keep coming back. What can one do?
Live. But find the right way to live. Help yourself by helping others. Eschew hate for love. Be grateful and you can’t be hateful.
Live. Not “for the moment” but for eternity. We already know the best things in life are “unseen”. Don’t try to be the one who “gained the whole world but lost his soul.” Remember, “The one who dies with the most toys” doesn’t really “win”; they just have more to answer for at the final judgement. Don’t be like that.
Live free.
Korean Man
2 years ago
Setnaffa’s totally intelligible ramblings show the cancer is back on his brain.
Your haste or lack of skills in English actually praised me “totally intelligible ramblings” is exactly my purpose here.
And, while I never had the typevof cancer you imply, it seems you have a cancer on your soul.
I hope you can break free long enough to ask Jesus Christ to save you from your sin and give you a bright future in eternity. Romans 10:13 states all who call on the name of the Lord will be saved.
Do it now.
No one who says or writes what you do has peace in their heart and mind. And the hatred you hold onto is consuming you just like you had swallowed strong acid.
If you don’t want to end up suffering forever in hell, you need to drop the hate and ask God to save you.
BTW, this from Glenn of Instapundit is good for Independence Day:
“Here’s the problem with public officials . . . deciding to ignore the Constitution: If you’re the president, if you’re a member of Congress, if you are a TSA agent, the only reason why somebody should listen to what you say, instead of horsewhipping you out of town for your impertinence, is because you exercise power via the Constitution. If the Constitution doesn’t count, you don’t have any legitimate power. You’re a thief, a brigand, an officious busybody, somebody who should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail for trying to exercise power you don’t possess. So if we’re going to start ignoring the Constitution, I’m fine with that. The first part I’m going to start ignoring is the part that says, I have to do whatever they say.”
May you all enjoy and give thanks for the Liberty you possess!
Korean Person
2 years ago
setnaffa is saying governemnt officials should follow the US Consitution but does he himself know what is in and follow the US Constitution?
ChickenHead
2 years ago
I don’t know the constitution perfectly, but I know case law very well.
“One of Bean’s most outrageous rulings occurred when an Irishman was accused of killing a Chinese worker. Friends of the accused threatened to destroy the Jersey Lilly if he was found guilty. Court in session, Bean browsed through his law book, turning page after page, searching for another legal precedent. Finally, rapping his pistol on the bar, he proclaimed, “Gentlemen, I find the law very explicit on murdering your fellow man, but there’s nothing here about killing a Chinaman. Case dismissed.”
In China, the rules are that no one can criticize the leaders or the government or even show that poverty still exists.
In America, the US Constitution provides limits on government power. Not always followed, which generates complaints and occasional prosecutions of government officials, it does not allow things like putting Muslims into genocidal concentration camps like those for the Uighurs in Xinjang or the lockdown and starvation of political dissidents in Shanghai and Hong Kong.
Chinabot’s question about whether a private individual is following the Constitution is ignorant, as the document does not restrict the behavior of individuals. It does, however, identify God-given rights like freedom of speech.
I recommend all Chinabots to read the US Constitution and discuss among themselves how life in China might be different if the government was expressly forbidden to stifle speech, assembly, or personal firearms…
And imagine what it would be like if the government was required to pay for everything they took from you.
Can anyone explain to me what is gained by kicking out servicemembers for not taking an experimental medical treatment that demonstratably does not work… to protect against a disease they are at the lowest risk demographic for… but perhaps the highest risk demographic for the vaccine?
What exactly is the criteria for considering the vaccine program successful?
Is it reducing deaths? Is it increasing readiness? Is it just to get the highest number possible to show something is being done in a PowerPoint?
Certainly a percentage of your trained forces having a cold is better than being gone and needing to be replaced.
Nobody in the military is dying from covid unless they have a known or unknown comorbidity that makes them the weakest link in the chain.
So what exactly is the purpose of demanding everyone is vaccinated.
If that cannot be answered, then it is possible military “leadership” is up to something… from backdoor deals with pharmaceutical companies to an organized effort to weaken America’s armed forces.
This is clearly weakening the military for no gain and leadership must recognize this.
@Chickenhead, the issue with the vaccination for the military is larger than if it works or not. At this point it is largely irrelevant. What the military brass does not want is Soldiers able to pick and choose which vaccines they want. The military has mandatory vaccination requirements and this is not the first time Soldiers have been put out for not getting their vaccines, it is just that this vaccine became so politicized a large number of Soldiers decided not to get it.
From personal experience the anthrax vaccine was far worse than getting a COVID shot and who knows if that shot actually worked to prevent anything and had to get that one 8x times!. However since it was not politicized there were far fewer people who did not get the anthrax vaccine that were removed from service. Everyone knows going into the military there are mandatory vaccination requirements so it should not be a surprise to anyone.
GI, a lot of honest men and women believe that the mRNA vaccines were derived from work done on cells from aborted babies.
Whether that’s true or not is irrelevant. It’s a religious issue for many.
Kicking out 60,000 troops is not going to assist in morale, readiness, or any other good thing. Sure, give ’em a note in their file and see if they resist any other order. But this is potentially much worse than Afghanistan.
I was all ready to get the vax back in 2021. I ask my cancer docs and they forbade it based on the damage the chemo in 2016 had done to me. C’est la vie. I haven’t caught the Batpox, the Monkeypox, or a fever for the flavor of a Pringles, by the grace of God.
Brandon hired a worse lot than Trump did. And a lot of his hires (other than Mike Pompeo) really stunk up the place.
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ChickenHead
2 years ago
GI, so as I understand it, the military is saying, “You must have an experimental medical treatment that does nothing beneficial for you… and would likely show that it hurts a percentage of you in the short term if anyone could look at our medical statistics before we “corrected the glitch”… and we want to force this on everyone because we are worried they won’t follow reasonable orders or something… and this is more important to us than readiness.”
Maybe.
I am going with this being a political tool to cripple the military. It makes more sense.
Unlike the anthrax vaccine, it is VERY easy to demonstrate that the military demographic is one of the least likely to have any issues with covid. It is also easy to demonstrate that the military demographic is one of the most likely to have side effects.
So the story is “because we told you hurt yourself and your military” is more important than readiness.
You do realize this is madness, right?
Michael
2 years ago
Or it could be because the military didn’t want entire brigades or battalions (or ships!) sick at one time, spreading to more and more people which would definitely impact readiness.
If you have aircraft mechanics, crew chiefs, and pilots out sick, planes and helicopters can’t fly or can’t be fixed.
liz
2 years ago
Michael, we now know beyond any doubt that vaccinated people spread the disease. I got covid from a vaccinated and twice boosted person…as did about 50 other people I know, from that same person.
liz
2 years ago
Retention was the reason they stopped mandating the anthrax vaccines. They were losing people (from a combination of side effects and people refusing to take it). So the GAO looked into it, told the DOD to start monitoring the side effects and instead they dropped the mandate.
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ChickenHead
2 years ago
Michael, the vaccine was designed for the extinct alpha variant spike protein.
In the 2021/2022 winter/spring spike, it was ~65% effective against omicron (BA.1.1.529) after 2 to 4 weeks and ~8% effective after 25 weeks.
“But but but the vaccine was Safe & Effective. It was just designed for the alpha variant.”
So… the people who designed the vaccine and the people who pushed it didn’t know that viruses mutate?
Raise your hand if you didn’t know this before leaving elementary school.
The vaccine was a lemon and everybody knew it would be a lemon.
The booster raises immunity for a time… but it also fades.
There was no long-term gain by forcing vaccines on everyone.
Now for the punishment phase.
As we speak, in both Korea and the world, there are more daily cases of covid than there were back in the first three waves when they shut the world down. The 4th wave (the last one from December 2021 to March 2022) was much bigger… but the slope of the current wave suggests a repeat.
So far, this is a pandemic of the vaccinated.
The thing to look for in the next month is if vaccinated people who caught covid in the last wave catch it again, as the science suggests.
If that happens and verifies what the science suggests, we will know exactly where this is going.
@Chickenhead, everyone knows viruses mutate which why there is a new flu shot every year. The military mandates annual flu shots because of this. COVID appears to be going this same route where a new COVID shot will need to be developed every year. Drug companies are already working on updating their vaccines for the latest B.A5 variant.
@setnaffa, much of modern medicine was derived from testing on those old fetal cell lines. The COVID vaccine does not contain any fetal cells but was tested on derivatives of those old fetal cells from 50 years ago. If someone is putting in a religious exemption because of this then they should stay away from modern hospitals.
GI, I’m not going to demand anyone change their religion, or how they choose to exercise it. Even if, like the people we’re discussing (as well as those who think murdering the unborn is “healthcare”) are not the way I choose to believe and live. And as I stated before, I would have gotten the jab like the rest of my family until my doctors told me no.
Additional problems have been uncovered since then. Many of the vaxxed folks at our small Korean church have had “COVID” multiple times. The unvaxxed have no such track record Most have never caught it. Only the vaxxed have had to go to the hospital. Again, anecdotal data is statistically insignificant; but I don’t trust Brandon’s team as far as I could throw Michael Moore.
BTW, forcing injections of experimental substances into unwilling or uninformed subjects is a war crime, one of the charges leveled against German Dr.Josef Mengele and the infamous Japanese Unit 731. And there’s always the Tuskegee Experiment if we need a homegrown example.
But what’s a few thousand young men and women crippled or dead in order to enforce discipline, eh? Fire those 60,000 shirkers. They weren’t going to be much use against US civilians anyway. Joetato can always just arm more Cartel, Taliban, Antifa, and BLM “soldiers”.
Make sure you’re up to date with everything Saint Anthony of Wuhan commands, eh wot?
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ChickenHead
2 years ago
“COVID appears to be going this same route where a new COVID shot will need to be developed every year. Drug companies are already working on updating their vaccines for the latest B.A5 variant.”
May I have a gold star or something for saying this would happen a year and a half ago? May I kick everyone in the nuts who said, “No, man, the vaccine is Safe an 98.4% Effective. It’s just Two Shots and Back to Normal because Science.”
It used to be “the vaccine will save us and if you say otherwise you are a science denier” but now it is fully accepted “we will need a booster every year and if you say otherwise you are a science denier”.
Something is cognitively wrong with people who can demonstrate this level of doublethink without asking some fundamental questions, engage in serious discussion, and attempt accurate prediction.
But people gobble fast food, guzzle Coke, chain smoke cigarettes, and get worthless vaccines all the time despite clear evidence none of them are good for them.
Protip: the vaccinated will actually need a booster every 6 months starting 2 to 4 weeks before the summer and winter wave.
So why will the vaccinated (but not the naturally immune) require a booster every 6 months.
Because the booster is a bit of a fraud being pushed on an uninformed population.
Super Short Version: The immune system is locked onto first variant it comes into contact with. Natural immunity develops against the entire virus. The vaccine is only against the spike protein of the alpha variant which has mutated considerably. The vaccinated immune system produces alpha antibodies that kinda work against omicron. A booster for alpha or omicron still only produce a large number of alpha antibodies and protection fades as those booster-induced antibodies fade… perhaps 25 weeks.
(Study the history of the dengue fever vaccine to understand the covid vaccine)
Let me cite a paragraph from the article GI Korea linked… that somehow made it past the censors.
“But experts stressed that there may not be a dramatic difference in protection between additional boosts of the current vaccines and omicron-specific shots. Current vaccines still work well to prevent severe illness and death.”
They already know people vaccinated against alpha will get no difference in protection from an alpha booster or an omicron booster.
They have known this since 1960.
“Chickenhead, everyone knows viruses mutate which why there is a new flu shot every year.”
You wouldn’t think that when everyone was saying we just needed two shots.
…and a booster… and a 2nd booster but only for the high-risk… a booster every year (you are here)… a booster every 9 months (Canada is here with this bazaar number)… a booster every 6 months (coming soon).
Protip: Recognize that the flu vaccine is a scam. According to the CDC, it is “between 10% and 60% effective” depending on the year. What does that mean? It means there is a reduction in hospital visits by that amount. Who goes to the hospital for flu? The old and sick and people who are not in the military demographic which wouldn’t go to the hospital over flu in any significant number anyway. It’s protection against catching flu is significantly lower. This is government welfare to pharmaceutical companies for a minuscule benefit to the military.
I attached the flue vaccine effectiveness chart from the CDC website so everyone could see the (fluffed) percentage of reduction in the old and sick needing a hospital visit.
ChickenHead
2 years ago
Anybody for a quick vaxtard update?
Fauci: Has has had covid for a month. He says he is feeling fine because he is vaxxed and double boosted. Or maybe the deafening silence means he is not feeling fine enough to hog the spotlight as usual.
Trudeau: He now has covid… for the second time… and he is fully vaxxed and boosted (though we don’t know if he is “up to date” which is Canadian for every 9 months (a meaninglessness arbitrary number)).
You know who isn’t getting covid a second time? The naturally immune. Do you know why? Real science that has been understood since the 1960s.
So what does this mean?
It means:
– the farther covid mutates away from the alpha strain, covid infections will become longer and more severe for the vaccinated. Boosters before every wave will offer a couple months of protection. That level of protection will go down as new strains come out.
– there is a risk of infection with a very different new strain while the vaccinated immune system continues to target the alpha spike protein. This causes a large but ineffective immune response (we see this with cytokine storms already). The vaccinated are killed by their own immune response.
– if a deadly strain comes out, the vaccinated will be at a higher risk of catching it than the naturally immune. Depending on the mutations, the naturally immune may not be at any risk at all.
The entire situation is growing increasingly hard to hide.
Yet the diehard vaxtards will defend their poor decisions by ignoring facts, mental gymnastics, appeals to emotion, and lying to themselves.
Actually, I don’t care. People make bad life choices all the time and I simply watch in amusement.
But the covid nonsense has been pushed into being my problem… mandates, demands, restrictions, moves to reduce access to food.
So the vaxtards are my enemies because they brought this upon me through their ignorance-inspired compliance.
Now we watch as every month their future looks more and more dim.
Do you recognize a knife as a weapon?
What if the assailant re-colored the blade blue or green?
What if the blade changed shapes (longer / shorter / etc.)?
Would you still recognize it as a weapon? … and take appropriate defensive action?
If the answer’s “yes”, that’s natural immunity at work.
Stay tuned for more Kamala Harris style mansplaining.
liz
2 years ago
“COVID appears to be going this same route where a new COVID shot will need to be developed every year”
It has been known for a while (this is from 2014) that the effectiveness of influenza vaccines depends on frequency of administration. There is actually an inverse relationship between frequency and effectiveness.
See those charts…once a vaccinated person stops, the risk of infection appears to increase in subsequent seasons…previously vaccinated have a higher risk than never vaccinated.
For those who think I am cherry-picking, this is a clinical trial funded by the US National Institute of Health. This is a known concern.
“However, some evidence suggests that the antibody response to influenza vaccination subsides with repeated vaccination. This finding is corroborated by epidemiological studies which have indicated that the vaccine’s effectiveness (VE) decreases with repeated administration.”
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ChickenHead
2 years ago
Liz, the mechanisms behind all of the problems that are happening with the covid vaccine have been known about for decades.
The scientists who tried to explain this to the public were deplatformed from social media such as Twitter.
Now, nobody thinks anything odd about a yearly booster… “just like the flu shot”.
That is not what was promised, is it.
And we already know that a yearly booster won’t be enough. The antibodies generated by the booster are likely mostly gone within 6 months.
Further, our knowledge of vaccine/booster effectiveness is based off old-school omicron rather than the new strains that are dominating… which are even farther removed from the alpha variant.
Much of this was blindingly clear before covid even spread. All of this could be found with a little study.
Yet people stood in line to become test subjects for an experimental medical treatment using experimental technology with the only reward being the (empty) promise of immunity against a disease that was no danger to them.
I am truly baffled at what they were thinking.
But I like bringing it up because, perhaps in their lizard brain, they know they really fùcked up.
And I want them to feel bad because their poor life choices and blind compliance have drug this out for two extra years, empowered tyrannical government, limited freedoms, destroyed the middle class, and caused all sorts of disorder.
And their poor life choices are going to keep this cycle going this summer and this winter, at the least… maybe a lot longer.
Apple is such a wonderfully moral company, capable of telling all of us lesser mortals how to live:
https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/01/apple_lawyer_insider_trading/
Cancer-free. That’s a good feeling. But can one ever really be cancer-free again? Whatever caused those cells to go sideways and start working for the enemy might still be there. Even after five years of “remission” (after chemotherapy, radiation therapy, and multiple surgeries), it might come back. What can one do?
You know, it’s the same with communism and all the other “-isms” that put material things above people.. All they do is warp, starve, and destroy; but they keep coming back. What can one do?
Live. But find the right way to live. Help yourself by helping others. Eschew hate for love. Be grateful and you can’t be hateful.
Live. Not “for the moment” but for eternity. We already know the best things in life are “unseen”. Don’t try to be the one who “gained the whole world but lost his soul.” Remember, “The one who dies with the most toys” doesn’t really “win”; they just have more to answer for at the final judgement. Don’t be like that.
Live free.
Setnaffa’s totally intelligible ramblings show the cancer is back on his brain.
kewl, dude…
Your haste or lack of skills in English actually praised me “totally intelligible ramblings” is exactly my purpose here.
And, while I never had the typevof cancer you imply, it seems you have a cancer on your soul.
I hope you can break free long enough to ask Jesus Christ to save you from your sin and give you a bright future in eternity. Romans 10:13 states all who call on the name of the Lord will be saved.
Do it now.
No one who says or writes what you do has peace in their heart and mind. And the hatred you hold onto is consuming you just like you had swallowed strong acid.
If you don’t want to end up suffering forever in hell, you need to drop the hate and ask God to save you.
BTW, this from Glenn of Instapundit is good for Independence Day:
“Here’s the problem with public officials . . . deciding to ignore the Constitution: If you’re the president, if you’re a member of Congress, if you are a TSA agent, the only reason why somebody should listen to what you say, instead of horsewhipping you out of town for your impertinence, is because you exercise power via the Constitution. If the Constitution doesn’t count, you don’t have any legitimate power. You’re a thief, a brigand, an officious busybody, somebody who should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail for trying to exercise power you don’t possess. So if we’re going to start ignoring the Constitution, I’m fine with that. The first part I’m going to start ignoring is the part that says, I have to do whatever they say.”
May you all enjoy and give thanks for the Liberty you possess!
setnaffa is saying governemnt officials should follow the US Consitution but does he himself know what is in and follow the US Constitution?
I don’t know the constitution perfectly, but I know case law very well.
“One of Bean’s most outrageous rulings occurred when an Irishman was accused of killing a Chinese worker. Friends of the accused threatened to destroy the Jersey Lilly if he was found guilty. Court in session, Bean browsed through his law book, turning page after page, searching for another legal precedent. Finally, rapping his pistol on the bar, he proclaimed, “Gentlemen, I find the law very explicit on murdering your fellow man, but there’s nothing here about killing a Chinaman. Case dismissed.”
I can understand the chinabots’ confusion.
In China, the rules are that no one can criticize the leaders or the government or even show that poverty still exists.
In America, the US Constitution provides limits on government power. Not always followed, which generates complaints and occasional prosecutions of government officials, it does not allow things like putting Muslims into genocidal concentration camps like those for the Uighurs in Xinjang or the lockdown and starvation of political dissidents in Shanghai and Hong Kong.
Chinabot’s question about whether a private individual is following the Constitution is ignorant, as the document does not restrict the behavior of individuals. It does, however, identify God-given rights like freedom of speech.
I recommend all Chinabots to read the US Constitution and discuss among themselves how life in China might be different if the government was expressly forbidden to stifle speech, assembly, or personal firearms…
And imagine what it would be like if the government was required to pay for everything they took from you.
Happy Independence Day!!!
Negatively impacting morale and recruitment in time of war is treason.
Good thing America is not at war. Otherwise, SecDef and his boss could be headed to Leavenworth.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/07/06/army-cuts-off-more-60k-unvaccinated-guard-and-reserve-soldiers-pay-and-benefits.html
Can anyone explain to me what is gained by kicking out servicemembers for not taking an experimental medical treatment that demonstratably does not work… to protect against a disease they are at the lowest risk demographic for… but perhaps the highest risk demographic for the vaccine?
What exactly is the criteria for considering the vaccine program successful?
Is it reducing deaths? Is it increasing readiness? Is it just to get the highest number possible to show something is being done in a PowerPoint?
Certainly a percentage of your trained forces having a cold is better than being gone and needing to be replaced.
Nobody in the military is dying from covid unless they have a known or unknown comorbidity that makes them the weakest link in the chain.
So what exactly is the purpose of demanding everyone is vaccinated.
If that cannot be answered, then it is possible military “leadership” is up to something… from backdoor deals with pharmaceutical companies to an organized effort to weaken America’s armed forces.
This is clearly weakening the military for no gain and leadership must recognize this.
Soooo… what other conclusion is possible?
@Chickenhead, the issue with the vaccination for the military is larger than if it works or not. At this point it is largely irrelevant. What the military brass does not want is Soldiers able to pick and choose which vaccines they want. The military has mandatory vaccination requirements and this is not the first time Soldiers have been put out for not getting their vaccines, it is just that this vaccine became so politicized a large number of Soldiers decided not to get it.
From personal experience the anthrax vaccine was far worse than getting a COVID shot and who knows if that shot actually worked to prevent anything and had to get that one 8x times!. However since it was not politicized there were far fewer people who did not get the anthrax vaccine that were removed from service. Everyone knows going into the military there are mandatory vaccination requirements so it should not be a surprise to anyone.
GI, a lot of honest men and women believe that the mRNA vaccines were derived from work done on cells from aborted babies.
Whether that’s true or not is irrelevant. It’s a religious issue for many.
Kicking out 60,000 troops is not going to assist in morale, readiness, or any other good thing. Sure, give ’em a note in their file and see if they resist any other order. But this is potentially much worse than Afghanistan.
I was all ready to get the vax back in 2021. I ask my cancer docs and they forbade it based on the damage the chemo in 2016 had done to me. C’est la vie. I haven’t caught the Batpox, the Monkeypox, or a fever for the flavor of a Pringles, by the grace of God.
Brandon hired a worse lot than Trump did. And a lot of his hires (other than Mike Pompeo) really stunk up the place.
GI, so as I understand it, the military is saying, “You must have an experimental medical treatment that does nothing beneficial for you… and would likely show that it hurts a percentage of you in the short term if anyone could look at our medical statistics before we “corrected the glitch”… and we want to force this on everyone because we are worried they won’t follow reasonable orders or something… and this is more important to us than readiness.”
Maybe.
I am going with this being a political tool to cripple the military. It makes more sense.
Unlike the anthrax vaccine, it is VERY easy to demonstrate that the military demographic is one of the least likely to have any issues with covid. It is also easy to demonstrate that the military demographic is one of the most likely to have side effects.
So the story is “because we told you hurt yourself and your military” is more important than readiness.
You do realize this is madness, right?
Or it could be because the military didn’t want entire brigades or battalions (or ships!) sick at one time, spreading to more and more people which would definitely impact readiness.
If you have aircraft mechanics, crew chiefs, and pilots out sick, planes and helicopters can’t fly or can’t be fixed.
Michael, we now know beyond any doubt that vaccinated people spread the disease. I got covid from a vaccinated and twice boosted person…as did about 50 other people I know, from that same person.
Retention was the reason they stopped mandating the anthrax vaccines. They were losing people (from a combination of side effects and people refusing to take it). So the GAO looked into it, told the DOD to start monitoring the side effects and instead they dropped the mandate.
Michael, the vaccine was designed for the extinct alpha variant spike protein.
In the 2021/2022 winter/spring spike, it was ~65% effective against omicron (BA.1.1.529) after 2 to 4 weeks and ~8% effective after 25 weeks.
“But but but the vaccine was Safe & Effective. It was just designed for the alpha variant.”
So… the people who designed the vaccine and the people who pushed it didn’t know that viruses mutate?
Raise your hand if you didn’t know this before leaving elementary school.
The vaccine was a lemon and everybody knew it would be a lemon.
The booster raises immunity for a time… but it also fades.
There was no long-term gain by forcing vaccines on everyone.
Now for the punishment phase.
As we speak, in both Korea and the world, there are more daily cases of covid than there were back in the first three waves when they shut the world down. The 4th wave (the last one from December 2021 to March 2022) was much bigger… but the slope of the current wave suggests a repeat.
So far, this is a pandemic of the vaccinated.
The thing to look for in the next month is if vaccinated people who caught covid in the last wave catch it again, as the science suggests.
If that happens and verifies what the science suggests, we will know exactly where this is going.
@Chickenhead, everyone knows viruses mutate which why there is a new flu shot every year. The military mandates annual flu shots because of this. COVID appears to be going this same route where a new COVID shot will need to be developed every year. Drug companies are already working on updating their vaccines for the latest B.A5 variant.
@setnaffa, much of modern medicine was derived from testing on those old fetal cell lines. The COVID vaccine does not contain any fetal cells but was tested on derivatives of those old fetal cells from 50 years ago. If someone is putting in a religious exemption because of this then they should stay away from modern hospitals.
GI, I’m not going to demand anyone change their religion, or how they choose to exercise it. Even if, like the people we’re discussing (as well as those who think murdering the unborn is “healthcare”) are not the way I choose to believe and live. And as I stated before, I would have gotten the jab like the rest of my family until my doctors told me no.
Additional problems have been uncovered since then. Many of the vaxxed folks at our small Korean church have had “COVID” multiple times. The unvaxxed have no such track record Most have never caught it. Only the vaxxed have had to go to the hospital. Again, anecdotal data is statistically insignificant; but I don’t trust Brandon’s team as far as I could throw Michael Moore.
BTW, forcing injections of experimental substances into unwilling or uninformed subjects is a war crime, one of the charges leveled against German Dr.Josef Mengele and the infamous Japanese Unit 731. And there’s always the Tuskegee Experiment if we need a homegrown example.
There’s even a US law specifically against it in the Department of Defense:
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-32/subtitle-A/chapter-I/subchapter-M/part-219?toc=1
But what’s a few thousand young men and women crippled or dead in order to enforce discipline, eh? Fire those 60,000 shirkers. They weren’t going to be much use against US civilians anyway. Joetato can always just arm more Cartel, Taliban, Antifa, and BLM “soldiers”.
Make sure you’re up to date with everything Saint Anthony of Wuhan commands, eh wot?
“COVID appears to be going this same route where a new COVID shot will need to be developed every year. Drug companies are already working on updating their vaccines for the latest B.A5 variant.”
May I have a gold star or something for saying this would happen a year and a half ago? May I kick everyone in the nuts who said, “No, man, the vaccine is Safe an 98.4% Effective. It’s just Two Shots and Back to Normal because Science.”
It used to be “the vaccine will save us and if you say otherwise you are a science denier” but now it is fully accepted “we will need a booster every year and if you say otherwise you are a science denier”.
Something is cognitively wrong with people who can demonstrate this level of doublethink without asking some fundamental questions, engage in serious discussion, and attempt accurate prediction.
But people gobble fast food, guzzle Coke, chain smoke cigarettes, and get worthless vaccines all the time despite clear evidence none of them are good for them.
Protip: the vaccinated will actually need a booster every 6 months starting 2 to 4 weeks before the summer and winter wave.
So why will the vaccinated (but not the naturally immune) require a booster every 6 months.
Because the booster is a bit of a fraud being pushed on an uninformed population.
Super Short Version: The immune system is locked onto first variant it comes into contact with. Natural immunity develops against the entire virus. The vaccine is only against the spike protein of the alpha variant which has mutated considerably. The vaccinated immune system produces alpha antibodies that kinda work against omicron. A booster for alpha or omicron still only produce a large number of alpha antibodies and protection fades as those booster-induced antibodies fade… perhaps 25 weeks.
(Study the history of the dengue fever vaccine to understand the covid vaccine)
Let me cite a paragraph from the article GI Korea linked… that somehow made it past the censors.
“But experts stressed that there may not be a dramatic difference in protection between additional boosts of the current vaccines and omicron-specific shots. Current vaccines still work well to prevent severe illness and death.”
They already know people vaccinated against alpha will get no difference in protection from an alpha booster or an omicron booster.
They have known this since 1960.
“Chickenhead, everyone knows viruses mutate which why there is a new flu shot every year.”
You wouldn’t think that when everyone was saying we just needed two shots.
…and a booster… and a 2nd booster but only for the high-risk… a booster every year (you are here)… a booster every 9 months (Canada is here with this bazaar number)… a booster every 6 months (coming soon).
Protip: Recognize that the flu vaccine is a scam. According to the CDC, it is “between 10% and 60% effective” depending on the year. What does that mean? It means there is a reduction in hospital visits by that amount. Who goes to the hospital for flu? The old and sick and people who are not in the military demographic which wouldn’t go to the hospital over flu in any significant number anyway. It’s protection against catching flu is significantly lower. This is government welfare to pharmaceutical companies for a minuscule benefit to the military.
I attached the flue vaccine effectiveness chart from the CDC website so everyone could see the (fluffed) percentage of reduction in the old and sick needing a hospital visit.
Anybody for a quick vaxtard update?
Fauci: Has has had covid for a month. He says he is feeling fine because he is vaxxed and double boosted. Or maybe the deafening silence means he is not feeling fine enough to hog the spotlight as usual.
Trudeau: He now has covid… for the second time… and he is fully vaxxed and boosted (though we don’t know if he is “up to date” which is Canadian for every 9 months (a meaninglessness arbitrary number)).
You know who isn’t getting covid a second time? The naturally immune. Do you know why? Real science that has been understood since the 1960s.
So what does this mean?
It means:
– the farther covid mutates away from the alpha strain, covid infections will become longer and more severe for the vaccinated. Boosters before every wave will offer a couple months of protection. That level of protection will go down as new strains come out.
– there is a risk of infection with a very different new strain while the vaccinated immune system continues to target the alpha spike protein. This causes a large but ineffective immune response (we see this with cytokine storms already). The vaccinated are killed by their own immune response.
– if a deadly strain comes out, the vaccinated will be at a higher risk of catching it than the naturally immune. Depending on the mutations, the naturally immune may not be at any risk at all.
The entire situation is growing increasingly hard to hide.
Yet the diehard vaxtards will defend their poor decisions by ignoring facts, mental gymnastics, appeals to emotion, and lying to themselves.
Actually, I don’t care. People make bad life choices all the time and I simply watch in amusement.
But the covid nonsense has been pushed into being my problem… mandates, demands, restrictions, moves to reduce access to food.
So the vaxtards are my enemies because they brought this upon me through their ignorance-inspired compliance.
Now we watch as every month their future looks more and more dim.
And it brings me pleasure.
Do you recognize a knife as a weapon?
What if the assailant re-colored the blade blue or green?
What if the blade changed shapes (longer / shorter / etc.)?
Would you still recognize it as a weapon? … and take appropriate defensive action?
If the answer’s “yes”, that’s natural immunity at work.
Stay tuned for more Kamala Harris style mansplaining.
“COVID appears to be going this same route where a new COVID shot will need to be developed every year”
It has been known for a while (this is from 2014) that the effectiveness of influenza vaccines depends on frequency of administration. There is actually an inverse relationship between frequency and effectiveness.
See those charts…once a vaccinated person stops, the risk of infection appears to increase in subsequent seasons…previously vaccinated have a higher risk than never vaccinated.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25270645/
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ProvidedDocs/11/NCT05110911/Prot_SAP_000.pdf
For those who think I am cherry-picking, this is a clinical trial funded by the US National Institute of Health. This is a known concern.
“However, some evidence suggests that the antibody response to influenza vaccination subsides with repeated vaccination. This finding is corroborated by epidemiological studies which have indicated that the vaccine’s effectiveness (VE) decreases with repeated administration.”
Liz, the mechanisms behind all of the problems that are happening with the covid vaccine have been known about for decades.
The scientists who tried to explain this to the public were deplatformed from social media such as Twitter.
Now, nobody thinks anything odd about a yearly booster… “just like the flu shot”.
That is not what was promised, is it.
And we already know that a yearly booster won’t be enough. The antibodies generated by the booster are likely mostly gone within 6 months.
Further, our knowledge of vaccine/booster effectiveness is based off old-school omicron rather than the new strains that are dominating… which are even farther removed from the alpha variant.
Much of this was blindingly clear before covid even spread. All of this could be found with a little study.
Yet people stood in line to become test subjects for an experimental medical treatment using experimental technology with the only reward being the (empty) promise of immunity against a disease that was no danger to them.
I am truly baffled at what they were thinking.
But I like bringing it up because, perhaps in their lizard brain, they know they really fùcked up.
And I want them to feel bad because their poor life choices and blind compliance have drug this out for two extra years, empowered tyrannical government, limited freedoms, destroyed the middle class, and caused all sorts of disorder.
And their poor life choices are going to keep this cycle going this summer and this winter, at the least… maybe a lot longer.
A pox on them!
Oh… look… monkeypox… just in time!