ROK Drop Open Thread – December 23, 2022
It is hard to believe it is almost Christmas. I hope everyone has a great holiday! Leave anything you want to discuss in the comments section.
It is hard to believe it is almost Christmas. I hope everyone has a great holiday! Leave anything you want to discuss in the comments section.
Merry Christmas, my friends.
The Creator God is only, always, and continually good. And He loves us. Never give up. He only gives good gifts, even if we can’t see that at the time. And sometimes, there are issues just too big for us to handle alone; but don’t lose hope.
You are not alone.
If you need someone to talk to while in South Korea, please look up the Songtan Central Baptist Church (https://www.songtanbaptist.com/). They absolutely want you to be okay.
Outside of Korea, please look for a Southern Baptist church. They can help you find the resources you need.
Ha! I know a Korean Southern Baptist preacher… as a friend, not as a spiratual advisor.
His normal conversation is… well… southern… and Baptist… and preacher… wirh a Korean accent.
I laugh the entire time I hang out with him.
“I do declair God has granted us this fine example of soju to quench our natural thirst for the devil.”
…except he is (or appears to be) 100% serious.
I really don’t know what i am dealing with… but as long as i am having fun and there is no demand on me… well… its cool.
SBC folks vary wildly; but most make no demands from folks they’re trying to help. 🙂
Merry Christmas anyway!!!
“Never trust China. China is asshoe.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyQd-mEK-Y
In a truly tragic note, many, many Chinese people (in China) are dying from COVID-19 plus comorbidities. The Chinese government are hiding these deaths; and, in fact, speculators in China are buying up all of the cold/flu medicines on the market, causing needless deaths.
Please join me in praying for the Chinese to experience a “Christmas Miracle” where the disease becomes less deadly.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Everyone!
Also a new year present to our dear Setnaffarists.
The possibility that their favored Yoon may get impeached next year
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/12/02/impeachment-imminent-for-yoon-suk-yeol-in-2023/
Technically, however, there is little to stop the Democrats from initiating the impeachment proceedings that could be announced if voted for by 200 out of 300 Members of Parliament and subsequently endorsed by the Constitutional Court. The Democrats already have 169 votes that could be beefed up to 200 by enlisting allies from other left-wing parties and Yoon’s enemies among the Conservatives like Lee Jun-seok’s faction. They have enough of their appointees in the Constitutional Court, and, as the Candlelight Vigil showed, public protests can be as effective as backdoor influence in terms of putting pressure on a public institution.
Korea Person is under the mistaken belief that anybody here cares about Yoon.
What everybody really cares about is Korea having energy independence, food self-sufficiency, no trade deficit, a strong small business community, workable plans for increasing Korea’s standard of living, encouragement for a middle class, strategic economic partnerships, sustainable economic decisions, resistance to bad-intentioned foreign meddling, etc.
That wasn’t the Moon juanta and it wasn’t the guy running against Yoon… who said it was too easy to make a small business so that needed more expense and more regulation.
Make Korea successful, and many people here will support President Hitler Kim if he lived off a diet of babies.
Like masks and vaccines and Yoon, less smart people focus on the talisman or idol rather than the results.
Bonus: We know Korea Person is a chinaman because he always promotes things that are destructive to Korean nationalism and long-term success.
“In a truly tragic note, many, many Chinese people (in China) are dying from COVID-19 plus comorbidities.”
That is truly tragic.
It means their eugenics program is working far better than what was done in the west.
By intentionally infecting nursing homes, Social Security was probably extended for some time. But there was no good organized program to kill off the fatties and the sickies that are a real drag on America’s pathetic safety nets.
Welfare housing was a sitting duck filled with fat unhealthy people and refrigerators full of chicken tendies and grape pop… all supplied by central air.
China will emerge stronger and healthier while the west breeds guys too unhealthy to survive their sex reassignment surgery.
https://www.oann.com/business/samsung-elec-to-expand/
Samsung is making a brilliant move that will help South Korea greatly, unless the people repeat their drunken, emotional jerk leftwards into tyranny.
Hopefully, after Yoon’s term they find someone with a stronger pro-capitalism streak to propel them past the Japanese, who apparently like molesting judo girls these days.
And yes, economic warfare is a game; but not a zero-sum gme, unless you hire idiots or Marxists.
Too good to pass up:
About 4 months ago, I said the word you would start hearing in December would be “tolerance”.
And here it is… quietly spoken for now… but it will be mainstream in 6 months… as everyone will be forced to excuse and rationale what can no longer be hidden.
The first studies are out and they are showing the reasonable scientific theory is actually scientific fact, exactly as expected.
What is tolerance?
When a virus enters your body, you want your immune system to attack it. An inflamatory response clears the virus.
But sometimes, you don’t want a big inflammatory response for things that are foreign but not dangerous such as pollen or peanuts. These are allergies.
Fortunately, your body can start to recoginze these non-pathogens and despose of them in other ways.
Your IgG4 antibody binds to it and tells the body not to worry, this foreign invader doesn’t reproduce and isnt dangerous so we will get rid of it without all the fuss.
You see where this is going.
So the vaccines… and booster… and booster… and bivalent booster… are building tolerance.
This is how an allergy shot works. This fact wasnt lost on real scientists with no political or financial interests in the outcome. Some of them thought maybe the untested vaccine made with untested technology could do the same.
This is what was predicted. This is what they are finding
The more shots people get, the less IgG3 fighting the virus and the more IgG4 protecting the virus.
Let’s look back at the highlights of the evolving narrative:
– If you get this vaccine, you won’t get covid.
– Breakout infections do happen but they are exceedingly rare.
– They never said you wouldn’t catch covid. The vaccine is only supposed to make it much more mild.
Do you feel like an à sshole now or do you lack situational awareness, pattern recognition, extrapolation, regression, and the other traits that set humans apart from animals, to the point you don’t even see the problem?
Oddly enough, they were on to something. The vaccine seems to make the infection more mild.
But it turns out that is for bad reasons.
The reason symptoms are more mild isnt becasue your vaccine-induced super immune system is killing covid.
No. The oppisite.
Your immune response is weak. You have reduced symptoms because your body is not fighting it.
This is verified by comparing the unvaxxed and vaxxed with covid and finding the vaxxed are still shedding (spreading) the virus after the unvaxxed are clear.
So the virus sticks around longer while your weakened immune system doesn’t work hard against it.
This feels better than being sick.
But… you may have already thought of this… this sounds a lot like how AIDS works.
And this is one (but not the only one) of the pathways for the VAIDS you keep hearing about on the tinfoil hat sites.
Except it is based on real science. And sone of that science is being verified.
VAIDS, like AIDS, is predicted to take more time before is starts being a big enough problem to notice. Let’s see.
Sonwhat happens when you have covid floating around your body for an extended time without making a big effort to fight it off… not unlike AIDS virus.
We know the spike protein causes heart inflammation which causes heart scarring of muscle tissue that cannot regenerate. Everyone is very quiet about what the long-term outlook on this is, but pre-covid medical papers indicated this was a serious issue with reduced survival for even mild symptomatic cases.
There are other reasonable theories about what the spike protein can do to the brain and reproductive system.
So… who knows. We will have a really good idea before 2030… and probably before 2027.
The good news is that there is a way to manage this which nobody is talking about (yet?) and which the pharmaceutical companies/government/media are going to go out of their way to suppress… just like HCQ fish tank cleaner and horsepaste Ivermectin… which sone of you probably still believe are deadly toxin… as their conspiracy to supress worked very, very well.
The bad news is that whatbis needed forbthe management of this will be hard to get.
And, some good or bad news depending on your point of view is that the people who need to manage this problem have overwhelmingly showed a lack of interest.
Despite growing evidence that the vaccine causes long-term heart problems, immune suppression, and perhaps an increase in cancer, those at risk demonstrate normalcy bias and hope it all goes away or the same governments which forced the problem on them will offer a solution.
They are wrong, just as they have been wrong about every aspect of the vaccine so far.
The vaccinated are so invested in rationalizing away their bad decision rather than correcting it, they won’t even recognize they have a potential problem.
They should be angry at those who did this to them and be in the first wave of people demanding assistance and compensation before a flood of people with their hands out make that literally impossible.
If they want to be a survivor rather than a victim, it is increasingly looking like they need to be proactive.
But they won’t be. Half the people are stupider than the average person… and the average person seems to be about 10% below independently functional.
This situation certainly has the social darwinism potential to remove the non-critical thinkers, the apathetic, the mindless followers, the compliers, the easily manipulated, the scolds, the lazy, and a lot of other undesirables from society.
Let’s see what happens.
Also, if you decide you want to live, ask for my price list.
If not for yourself, then for your children.
Quite true, CH.
Tolerance is also when we don’t immediately denounce the charlatans still pushing the clot shot and run them up the nearest yardarm, lamp post, or sturdy tree branch and watch them perform the danse macabre with a hemp or jute necktie.
When the COVID/AIDS is finally recognized, the smart pushers will be in their secluded island or mountain strongholds; but they’ll all evwntially be hunted down and given justice.
I won’t particularly enjoy it, because at that point society will be in the toilet. And I have grown rather fond of fresh eggs and frozen chicken breasts.
I might not be one the warlords decide to keep.
Oh. Wait. That was a bad SyFy Channel movie.
Yeah, COVID AIDS will be as successful at stopping people taking the jab as HIV AIDS has been at getting people to stop having “backdoor relationships”…
I assume the genital warts from COVID AIDS are what folks are calling “mpox” these days.
OTOH, some people really do like monkeys.
SWA stock down 5 percent this morning.
They had to cancel 2/3 of their flights yesterday.
Ugh. That is not good.
A vaccinated somebody on their second round of covid this year (March and December) noted that I have correctly predicted everything that has happened with covid…
…except at the beginning when I watched China shutting down and read that as covid being a serious problem… though the survival rate of high risk people on the Diamond Princess got my head quickly straight.
As for the vaccine?
So far, I have been 100% right about everything.
100%.
– The virus was man-made and came from a Chinese lab.
“The virus came from animals. Why does it matter where it came from? You are racist.”
– The vaccine won’t work.
“The science says two shots and you won’t catch covid. It’s safe and effective.”
– They will push boosters when the vaccine doesn’t work.
“You won’t need a booster because herd immunity/safe&effective/etc.”
– It looks like the vaccine is not working.
“While it is true there are breakout infections, they are exceedingly rare. The vaccine is working very well. This is now a pandemic of the unvaccinated.”
– The vaccine never could work.
“The vaccine was good but they just didn’t expect the virus to mutate.”
– They are going to push unlimited boosters.
“We only need one booster to be fully vaccinated. That was expected. Many vaccines have a booster. After the booster, we will have full immunity.,”
– The vaccine is experimental and made from experimental technology so there are likely to be side effects simply because these are complex systems and nobody really knows the details of what needs to be managed without years more research.
“You just dont understand the science. The scientists who made it know the science a whole lot better than you.”
– There is no way the vaccine just stays in the arm muscle and spike proteins don’t travel around the body to bind with ACE2 receptors in other places like heart, brain, reproductive system.
“You just dont understand the science or you wouldn’t say something so ridiculous.”
– There is no way the spike protein only lasts for “a couple of days”.
“You still just dont understand the science.”
– It really seems the vaccine is causing heart issues, especially with young men.
“No… There is no evidence… Yes, but it is exceedingly rare and most cases are mild and resolve on their own. Heart inflammation is not a problem anyway.”
– Excess mortality is going to go up because there are just too many uninvestigated pathways for the vaccine to be harmful.
“No, it won’t, fearmonger… Yes, it is unexpected and we don’t know what is causing it but we know it isn’t the vaccine.”
If any of you are self-aware, consider if this progression sound familiar… media programming the drones and the drones repeating the talking points as a response.
That is just a sample of what I have been saying for the last couple of years.
And now here we are… vaccines that don’t work, boosters that don’t work, growing indications of harmful vaccine side effects, and government and media trying to push more on you.
With that in mind, anybody interested in what I am predicting for the future (based on science rather than propaganda)?
– Heart issues: There will be increased heart issues that can’t be hidden in the next 5 to 10 years in people too young to have heart issues… maybe sooner. Nobody will know why except they know it is not caused by the vaccine… probably caused by the stress of world war… which will help people not notice. A lot more people have heart damage than anybody wants to talk about… and it may be worse than anyone wants to talk about.
Full disclosure: This is already happening so this is an easy prediction to make.
– There will be increased cancer rates: The mRNA vaccine has been shown to make changes to human cells under laboratory conditions. Further, the vaccine appears to suppress some of the mechanisms which protect against cancer.
Full disclosure: Again, this is already happening.
– Decreased fertility: Despite denials that the vaccine had any effect on menstrual cycles… followed by the old yes-but-exceedingly-rare… followed by common-but-temporary, it could be affecting fertility on top of affecting menstration.
A woman’s reproductive system is full of ACE2 receptors and the spike from the vaccine binds to them. The result is months of unusual menstration patterns on many women who get the vaccine. There are several valid theories on how this can reduce fertility.
There seems to be a reduction in fertility but this could be due to lockdowns and such. Let’s wait on this one.
– Cognative problems: The vaccine spike has been found in the brain. There are no cases where foreign proteins in the brain has been a positive thing. Consider the reasons and time frame for mad cow and similar conditions.
– Immune system issues: There are many pathways for the vaccine causing long-term immune system problems. These range from developing proper immunity only against the alpha strain spike protein to building tolerance to the covid virus and no longer treating it as a pathogen while it floods the body with spike proteins. Worse, as covid shares characteristics with other viruses, there is some possibility this effect will cross over to similar viruses.
Reduced immunity with some crossover tolerance could explain the “tridemic” of covid, flu, and RSV.
Food for Thought: RSV is a big deal and getting lots of press. Being honest with yourself, have you ever seen it get any attention before now? Do you remember the big problem it causes every year, especially for children? Have you ever even heard of it before? Do you feel like history is being rewritten before your eyes?
So, pretty much without question, that is what is coming for some percentage of the vaccinated.
I would happily answer questions at any level of science anyone wants to discuss… but I find the vaccinated won’t talk about it.
They just want to pretend it will go away.
But it won’t.
You have been right, CH.
I was blessed to have an oncologist who was paying attention and told me not to get the jab. And told my wife not to get it too.
So we’ll be around a while longer.
Can’t say that for a lot of friends and neighbors who took the jab and have have Xi’s Pox at least twice.
Setnaffa, I am divided between compassion for those who accept reality and want to understand how to better manage the situation…
…and ridicule for those who catch covid more than once, don’t feel quite right, yet want to keep supporting the vaccine and the political ideologies which tricked them into taking it.
Most people can’t look at the situation objectively and loudly state the failed vaccine has been a mistake on every level.
I really want everyone to do this so all of the madness goes away.
The crazy will not stop until everyone rejects it.
But most people love the crazy.
So I need to do more ridicule.
Well, CH, I think your method may reach some of the people mine does not.
And our audiences do overlap a little.
So it’s all good.
I didn’t mention this until we got his echo back (results normal), and saw a few cardiologists who have told us this is nothing to worry about, I will mention it now. My spouse is on (hopefully temporary) disability for SVT (a type of tachycardia). Starting a couple of weeks back.
It’s pretty common with covid for some folks (usually young athletic men…he is on the oldish side for this). Often it goes away on its own, sometimes it requires an ablation. We are hoping it will pass (it’s very occasional, he had to wear a monitor for an entire month to catch 3 episodes). We are certain it was covid that did this, since that is when it started.
The main point here is not to share the above, but I wanted to share something more interesting…the “dog not barking”.
None of the cardiologists we saw inquired about his vaccination status.
Not a single question.
Which I thought was very interesting…and there are only a couple of explanations and none of them are favorable for the vaccine. If the correlation was favorable in any way, wouldn’t they want to document it? If the vaccine/boosters truly helped with long covid wouldn’t they recommend it?
Anyway, add that to the list of strange things.
@Liz, we are sorry to hear about your husband’s SVT. Sadly, physicians are not all brave heroes or risk-takers. most KNOW what’s going on; but don’t ask the questions because then they MUST document it.
I got mixed reactions from my doctors about the clot-shot. Only one was adamant, believable, and offered evidence, as opposed to CNN snippets.
God-willing, I’ll last long enough to convert CH and provoke the fitty-cent army types to at least crack open a Bible and look up enough to debate me. Romans 10:17.
BTW, we’ll pray for him, as that weapon works best.
Thank you, Setnaffa. <3
Liz, I hope everything works out… which, statistically, it will.
The vaccine appears to be bad news for some percentage of people due to its effect on the heart.
It is unclear what percent and how serious. It is likely to be more clear within the next few years.
On the other hand, the effects of a covid infection on the unvaccinated are also not clear.
There is a nagging fear that the nonsensical zero covid policy of the Chinese was to ensure some percentage of the population was never exposed to covid because the Chinese know or suspect something.
It is further unknown what effects the double whammy of vaccination and covid are.
Good luck on this. So far, we are in uncharted territory but this has not been any cause for alarm so far.
Sidenote: Currently, I know quite a few vaccinated people in a cluster who have covid for the second time this year… and that has been growing all week. Of this social group four people are unvaccinated and all had covid last spring. None of us have taken any precaution. None of us caught covid this week.
Everybody in this group knows my uncompromising politics on the matter and grudgingly and incompletley share information with me.
I am moving from an I-told-you-so/what-did-you-think-would-happen-dumbass mode to one of sympathy and trying to get people to take an active roll in monitoring and management of the situation… but I find more denial and rationalization than interest. This makes my transition from rudicule to compassion rather difficult.
I was exposed to this on Saturday and on Tuesday, I woke up with symptoms similar to what i had last summer when I was heavily exposed for 3 days. These symptoms (chest tightness, urge to cough, runny nose) were gone within an hour. They have not returned.
Good luck to all.
Liz, quick question:
Did your husband’s incidents of tachycardia happen when he went from lying down to standing up?
I read a paper earlier this year… can’t quite remeber the details but the key points:
– some tachycardia is caused by malfunction in the automatic part of the brain that manages changes in blood pressure and distribution when the relationship between blood/heart/brain changes… things like constricting below-heart blood vessles to reduce load on the heart and keep the brain properly supplied when you stand up.
– the spike protein has been found in this part of the brain. There is some evidence this may play a part in both long covid and tachycardia.
– the article was very focused on covid covid covid but we know spike proteins from the vaccine have also been found to do everything (and more) that covid spike proteins can do (without being attacked by broader immunity). Vaccine spikes have been found in the brain.
The entire medical profession has become untrustworthy… as doctors will outright lie to protect the vaccine… though they are really protecting themselves.
One can very much see a doctor pushing the blame on a cause a little less related to covid/vaccine… especially if they were dealing with smart people who might ask good questions.
Good luck and consider this further.
Thanks CH, that is interesting.
The tachycardia often happens when he is lying down (it will wake him in his sleep). But it will happen when he is sitting up too.
He has to stay still at the point because walking around makes it much worse. It doesn’t seem to respond to the usual mechanisms for slowing down the pulse rate (deep slow breathing, the “valsalva maneuver”, cold water).
I suspect the altitude (we live 9600 ft up) aggravates it since 9 out of 10 times he is home when it happens (he was in Dallas for a month and didn’t have a single incident).