ROK Army Special Forces Commander Believed Martial Law Order was Illegal and Did Not Comply

but one thing ROK citizens should be proud of is that their military did not go along with this attempt to silence the democratically elected opposition.

No.

ROK citizens should feel ashamed there appears to be a leftist conspiracy to rig elections and there is certainly a leftist conspiracy to keep the election process from being transparent to everyone involved.

Anyone trying to hide the possibility of fraud is likely engaged in fraud.

Further, they should be ashamed the leftist government would rather see Korea fail than Yoon succeed in any way and they are willing to sabotage his agenda even when it is good for Korea and Koreans.

A very similar thing played out in America.

In Trump’s first term, he was blocked at every chance by members of both parties who were more interested in protecting the System than advancing America.

The 2020 election was clearly stolen, though much of the evidence for that, such as statistical laws, is beyond the intelligence of the average The View audience member.

The result was… well… everyone just lived the result of a leftist coup and it was pretty much what could be expected socially and economically.

The 2024 election was Too Big to Rig and lots of people were watching what wasn’t watched in 2020. The result is an unquestionable Trump win my every metric.

There has been some shady election results in local elections, especially in California. That may be investigated. Anybody obscuring this is likely guilty of election fraud. Winners have nothing to hide.

So, Americans should be ashamed of 2020-2024 but they seemed to have learned. At least enough of them have.

Korea may learn too and give an overwhelming number of votes to Korean nationalist politicians who are clearly looking out for Korea rather than globalist policies and the agendas of the multinational corporations.

So say the White Nationalist Maggots.

Who is more for South Korea? The Maggots who think there’s nothing wrong with the military pointing their guns at civilians and democratically elected civilian lawmakers, then taking over the government by force, or the real concerned South Koreans protesting for days, outside in the cold, who really care about their country being free, prosperous, strong, and democratic?

Right now, the Maggots are encouraged because they think they have their savior.

The lieutenant general said he was also ordered to pull out lawmakers from the plenary session, but he “did not respond due to the certain illegality.”

You’re quoting Donga Ilbo, they’re simply haven’t printed the other side of the story yet. Both of the commanders are going to be arrested for treason pretty soon. The men under them, have come forward saying what this commander is saying is simply not true. He did give orders to capture the National Assembly and arrest everyone in it. The soldiers simply disobeyed their orders, and they were beaten and forced onto choppers, and deployed to the building – where they were greeted by the civilians. They refused to shoot these civilians. The commander should be arrested and tried for treason. The military plot between Yoon, the rightwing party, and the military was at least 10 months in making. It failed because the lower ranking soldiers did not obey their orders. But nice try, trying to make himself look like a victim.

This is a terrible breakdown in military order and discipline. It was clearly not an illegal order and this general violated his oath to the country. Suspect he is a commie sympathizer.

To be fair to the general/military, Yoon isn’t all that confidence inspiring. If you’re going to pull off a coup, you’d better have damn good relations with the military, and Yoon being a prosecutor with a ‘my way or the highway’ attitude, i.e. he was never much of a politician, was never going to be successful. He would’ve also needed to have had good relations with a good chunk of the parliament who could have run political cover for him rather than leaving them in the dark for them to react in shock and bewilderment.

The martial law attempt has caused a political crisis in South Korea

No, martial law attempt was the continuation of a current political crisis in South Korea, one that is set to continue past this event.

Fortunately he did not.

*Fortunately* democracy is totally the best form of government since God created the universe and man… it’s so good that everyone from the ancient Greeks to the American founders swore by democracy and its wonderful bounties and grace.

Right, the reality is that heaven is a Kingdom,everyone from the oldest classical traditions always thought democracy was a shit show, and the founding fathers feared it so much they created an oligarchical republic that was supposed to be ruled by the “natural aristocracy”. A republic that today has degraded into democratic slop so dysfunctional that Roman style solutions to the “Republic” are becoming the norm.

The Maggots plotting to overthrow ROK’s parliamentary institution. That’s cute. Hate to tell you this, but there won’t be a next time. A special committee of prosecution (not the Yoon’s rigged Prosecution office) has formed, and Yoon will soon be arrested for treason. He is facing at least life in prison or death. That is the maximum penalty for treason. Koreans don’t have to get the impeachment first. Yoon committed Hari Kari, when he appeared on TV to declare a military power grab. That’s enough evidence to bring down his house of card entirely. That includes the PPP party who are now labeled as a criminal organization by many in South Korea. All of those members will face an investigation and are facing some serious prison times. The PPP party will also be forced to be disbanded, under the same law that Park Geun Hye first created and used in 2014, to forcibly disband a trade union party called the UPP. What goes around, comes around.

Korean man, you’re sounding hysterical. For all your metaphorical talk about Hari Kari and death, there was no blood shed. I find it difficult to believe anyone is going to be executed for “treason”. That would be a massive departure from political traditions. Even Chun got pardoned and he shed blood, quite a lot of it. Most likely course of action is a few years in prison followed by a pardon. Another point in favor of Yoon’s survival is that the protest crowds are far smaller than Park’s and she was even pardoned by Moon. Yoon even enjoys higher approval than Park.

As for your claim about there not being a second time… well funny enough the Korean left is accusing the right of doing a second coup with blocking the impeachment and putting the prime minister in charge along withe ruling party leader. So which is it? No second time or are we waiting on the third time? I’ve lost track.

Of course this is all very much not in the current laws, but Korean politics have rarely operated along the concept of “legality”. Combine that with generally low approval ratings of both the left and the right, collapse of the political center, widening gender political divisions, etc… and you get a situation in Korea where the political machine will find it very, very difficult to operate within a “democratic” system. The incentive will be to find non-democratic solutions.

I also think you far overestimate the long term affect the coup attempt will have on Korean politics. It will not destroy the right for the same reason Jan 6 did not destroy the American right. Political opinions among the masses can be very short term, and while they might have been “so very absolutely horrified” by the incident, such events do have a tendency to shift the overton window.

The Ashli Babbitt situation is filled with lies.

…but mostly to ourselves.

Byrd had one job: keep the crowd of unknown number and intention from entering the hallway with a door on the other end to a trapped congress.

In a more perfect world, the crowd would have taken the M4s from the feds in the stairwell, shattered the doors, shot Byrd, charged down the hallway, and engineered an impromptu special election.

But Byrd’s job was to shoot anyone coming into the hallway.

Ashli was unfortunate enough to be the first through the broken window. He shot her in the shoulder instead of the head.

The rest of the crowd got the message.

Congress was protected, as was his duty.

Unfortunate, but he is not to blame for any wrongdoing.