ROK Drop Open Thread – October 27, 2014
Please leave anything you want to discuss in the comments section.
I also recommend checking out these new postings in the Forums this week:
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- Harry Roque cries ‘special treatment’ over Pemberton’s air-conditioned detention
- Why America’s Army Will Not Be Ready for the Next War
- North Korea Reportedly Building A New Submarine
- What to Do When Visiting Sejong City
- Why America Needs Big Army
- West Point Criticized for Recruiting Players with Alcohol and Women
- Ft. Benning Battalion Commander Relieved for Wearing Fraudulent Tabs
UNC Used Fake “African American Studies” Classes To Pass Thousands Of Athletes
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/unc-academic-and-athletic-officials-steered-student-athletes-to-bogus-classes-181214478.html
Charles Barkley: ‘Unintelligent’ Blacks ‘Brainwashed’ To Keep Successful Ones Down
http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/25/charles-barkley-unintelligent-blacks-brainwashed-to-keep-successful-black-men-down-video/
This Court Sentences you to DEATH! May your God have Mercy on your soul!
http://news.yahoo.com/south-korea-seeks-death-penalty-ferry-captain-073954762.html
Well, not yet. And South Korea hasn’t excuted anyone in a while, so Captain Lee Joon-Seok may not have a date with Old Sparky for some time.
Anything else on the rest of the owner’s company? It’s not like this was a one man show.
US is now the focal point of Ebola with the cases of that disease rising rapidly due to poor health care conditions and refusal to quarantine the sick.
“UNC Used Fake “African American Studies” Classes To Pass Thousands Of Athletes”
Ahhhh… but is a fake African American Studies class where you don’t have to attend, have no/low expectations of performance, get enrolled through special treatment, and are given recognition for success, actually a fake African American Studies class?
…or just a lab class?
NRA fights for dog and cat eating…
http://issuehawk.com/tamar/2014/10/28/how-the-nra-nixed-a-bill-to-make-it-illegal-to-eat-cats-and-dogs-in-pennsylvania.html
Tbone’s mental vomit: “NRA fights for dog and cat eating”
Actual article: NRA fights against attachment that made pigeon shoots illegal.
It must be difficult to go through life with such low reading comprehension skills.
Sure CH the NRA cares about animals, or dogs and cats. You can tell here…
[Pigeon shoots are not a genteel sport, despite the NRA’s deceptive description of the shoots as ‘ethical’ and part of a sportsman’s heritage.
In a single shoot, sometimes thousands of pigeons die, often in a horrific manner as described by Addicting Info.
{The pigeons are stuffed into a tub and fired outward. The force of the launch typically severely injures the bird so that even when the shooter, standing a few feet away, misses the bird, the injured creature falls to the earth and slowly dies. In some cases, people — typically teenagers — are paid to wander around the field looking for still-living birds and break their necks. In other cases, the birds are left to suffer in the field until they die of their injuries. It’s incredibly cruel and nearly every animal rights group in the world has condemned the practice.}
Yet since it is a gun sport, the NRA went on overdrive, lobbying the Senate Republicans who promptly squashed the bill, keeping dog meat legal in Pennsylvania, at least for the time being.]
I just wonder who these people are in Pennsylvania, I’d bet S. Koreans are the owners & operators of these underground puppy&pussy butcher shops…
“While many crazy Americans pamper dogs and lavish on them human love and affection, in some parts of the world dogs are a source of meat.
Yet, even here in the States, a minority of people consider dogs fine dining, leading to an underground canine meat trade, sourced by cruel and often filthy puppy mills uncovered by an SPCA investigation.
After learning dogs were being butchered for food in Pennsylvania, however, one lawmaker tried to draft a bill to stop the dog slaughterhouses and kennels in the state.”
Tbone, the easily-disprovable point that you were pushing was, “NRA fights for dog and cat eating”.
There was no mention of birds.
Stop self-medicating with spray paint and bunk weed… and take you ADD medicine.
Soooo,,, now we have proven you to be full of Teadrinkerariean-style shyt on your original point, let’s look at some of your new points.
“Sure CH the NRA cares about animals, or dogs and cats.”
Of course they are NRA rather than PETA… so their function as an association is to protect gun ownership from those who constantly seek any form of emotional weakness to chisel away at those fundamental rights.
While mission creep is popular these days, as NASA chases climate change and MTV seldom plays music, it is actually a pleasure to see the NRA fight limitations on firearms even when faced with the innocent stares of watery-eyed puppies and kittens.
On the other hand, there is a great deal of cross-over between gun owner and dog lover… so it is easy to suspect the NRA, and many of its members, have a great deal of concern over the welfare of dogs… probably cats to some extent, as well… but, as that is not an issue in the NRA charter, those concerns are secondary, as they should be… and foolish for you to pretend they are an issue.
Shooting pigeons sounds pretty terrible coming from a hyperventilating leftist and repeated by a dim man-child angry at the world over his failed life. It may not be more terrible than many other fates which befall a bird so low on the food chain. It is likely much less terrible than the life of a factory farmed chicken, Mr. Tbone-likes-to-lecture-but-isn’t-a-vegitarian.
“I just wonder who these people are in Pennsylvania, I’d bet S. Koreans are the owners & operators of these underground puppy&pussy butcher shops…”
There is a pretty good chance Koreans are involved in the underground dog meat trade in America… though it could be Chinese, Taiwanese, Vietnamese, Eskimos, French Polynesians, and Hawaiians (who have about the most screwed up diet of any place I have ever been).
Koreans aren’t into cat, which is something pretty much anyone living in Korea would notice on their own… if they could get their nose out of the Dwaejibond glue pot long enough to take a look around.
There is a better chance the Chinese, Taiwanese, French Polynesians, and yes, the Swiss, are involved in the underground cat meat trade.
Tbone, there are certainly issues you can trip people up on around here in the Gotcha Game… and there are certainly issues you could bring up that would make people respect your observation, analysis, and concern.
But, it seems you lack the cognitive skill to identify these issues and think them through.
Life was hard for you in Korea… and it is probably harder in America without the low expectations and easy money offered an English “teacher”.
Poor Tbone.
“Tbone, there are certainly issues you can trip people up on around here in the Gotcha Game”
Listen to you Wa Wonk Wa/Blah blah blah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04
…in response to my “Gotcha Game” hehehehehe!!!!!
All I had to do was write a one sentence title/attention grabber/response to the article and look how much I “Gotcha.” Hehehehehe!!!!!
“…and take you ADD medicine.”
You should work on your sentence writing you drug consuming dummkopf!
“All I had to do was write a one sentence title/attention grabber/response to the article and look how much I “Gotcha.” Hehehehehe!!!!!”
I didn’t write that for you, Tbone.
“…and take you ADD medicine.”
That was Ebonics, Tbone…
…as in, “Yo, biitch, you be takin’ you ADD medicine an’ shyt. I ain’t gonna axe you ‘gain, m’fukker.”
Moving on…
Did you have anything intelligent you wanted to add to the actual topic or are you all played out on that?
“That was Ebonics, Tbone…”
Your Ebonics is better than your attempt at normal English, please don’t stop! Are you a little black fella or just pretending to be black?
You’re like the GOP(Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania) pretending to have black friends ~ Check out(click on) this buzzfeed coverage…
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/black-woman-photoshopped-into-group-photo-with-gop-governor
“A black woman smiling in the background of a group picture that appears at the bottom of every page of Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett’s campaign website is actually a stock image, photoshopped in.”
CH should get nit-picky and go all Wa Wonk Wa/Blah blah blah with Foxnews for blaming the NRA for dog & cat consumption ~
http://radio.foxnews.com/2014/10/27/you-can-have-a-dog-for-dinner-in-pennsylvania-thanks-to-the-nra/
“A bill that called for a 7-year prison sentence for selling or transferring a dog or cat for human consumption isn’t getting anywhere because of the National Rifle Association.”
CH says…”Did you have anything intelligent you wanted to add to the actual topic or are you all played out on that?”
No, I’m waiting for some more of your worthless Wa Wonk Wa/Blah Blah Blah you quitter.
Can’t stop stuffing pigeons into a tub and launching them outward for the shooter standing a few feet away, OR ELSE ~
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/6/pennsylvania-senate-could-consider-pigeon-shoot-ban-as-early-as-tomorrow.aspx
“Begin the slide down a slippery slope…Next stop will be regulated shooting grounds”
OMG, please not any “regulated shooting grounds” for then a child won’t be able to accidentally shoot and kill the shooting teacher like in Arizona.
CH, you really are a Humorless B*stard. OMG, look what Steven Colbert said ~ he blamed the NRA for dog dinners…
http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/jxddq4/the-nra-vs–pennsylvania-s-pet-eating-ban
“You can have a dog for dinner thanks to the NRA”
U.S. Servicemembers returning from Africa can’t(or won’t) self monitor so must be held for 21 days.
tbone apparently confuses GIs and pretty leftist nurses…
It’s OK. God will save them all!
Kaci Hickox is a “leftist,” why would you say that?
“That was Ebonics, Tbone…”
Your Ebonics is better than your attempt at normal English, please don’t stop! Are you a little black fella or just pretending to be black?
You’re like the GOP(Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania) pretending to have black friends ~ Check out(click on) this buzzfeed coverage…
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/black-woman-photoshopped-into-group-photo-with-gop-governor
“A black woman smiling in the background of a group picture that appears at the bottom of every page of Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett’s campaign website is actually a stock image, photoshopped in.”
CH should get nit-picky and go all Wa Wonk Wa/Blah blah blah with Foxnews for blaming the NRA for dog & cat consumption ~
http://radio.foxnews.com/2014/10/27/you-can-have-a-dog-for-dinner-in-pennsylvania-thanks-to-the-nra/
“A bill that called for a 7-year prison sentence for selling or transferring a dog or cat for human consumption isn’t getting anywhere because of the National Rifle Association.”
Can’t stop stuffing pigeons into a tub and launching them outward for the shooter standing a few feet away, OR ELSE ~
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/6/pennsylvania-senate-could-consider-pigeon-shoot-ban-as-early-as-tomorrow.aspx
“Begin the slide down a slippery slope…Next stop will be regulated shooting grounds”
OMG, please not any “regulated shooting grounds” for then a child won’t be able to accidentally shoot and kill the shooting teacher like in Arizona.
CH, you really are humorless. OMG, look what Steven Colbert said ~ he blamed the NRA for dog dinners…
http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/jxddq4/the-nra-vs–pennsylvania-s-pet-eating-ban
“You can have a dog for dinner thanks to the NRA”
What’s really wrong, Tbone? Why are you so broken up? Did somebody eat your girlfriend?
I was in the NRA but they left me behind long ago.
Leon, you are not the first person who said this. In what way did the NRA leave you behind?
(Don’t answer if you just got old, fat, and slow)
First women earn U.S. Army’s Expert Infantryman Badge
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/28/women-earn-infantryman-badge/18060021/
Because America’s Army is still dragging its a55 getting rid of old BS policies some other country’s women got first dibs. Good job! -_-
Speaking of dibs, I call the chagi on the left, CH you can have the one on the right.
CH, hahahahaha!!!!! You actually pay $ to be an NRA member, how stupid can you be? Hehehehehe. How much other money does the NRA soak out of you? Hahahahaha, Sucker!!!!!
Apple CEO Tim Cook: ‘I’m proud to be gay’
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102135844
No problem, Smokes… but I warn you… I am likely to loose my boner if you try to make eye contact so we better toss their rucksacks in a pile on the bed between us.
Tbone, I am curious about the depth of your knowledge on the NRA. Please tell us more.
Besides, I only donated money to defend my right to eat kitten.
American troops returning from Ebola-afflicted countries to be quarantined for 21 days in Italy – but Italians say they don’t want them!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2812890/Secretary-Defense-Chuck-Hagel-directs-military-quarantine-soldiers-Ebola-afflicted-countries-21-days-allowing-return-U-S.html
Soooo…
Apple went from Steve Jobs…
…to rim jobs.
Nice.
Aspiring actress hit with 108 catcalls during NYC stroll
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/aspiring-actress-hit-108-catcalls-nyc-stroll-article-1.1990251
“Aspiring actress hit with 108 catcalls during NYC stroll”
Better headline:
“Black Guys Have Crappy Tastes in White Women”
“Tbone, I am curious about the depth of your knowledge on the NRA. Please tell us more.”
I know that the NRA seems to make people do and say stupid things, including yourself.
A 2014 Iowa female senate candidate(R-Joni Ernst) who was leading or tied in polls going into this last week just lost newspaper endorsements because she refused to meet with them to answer questions and canceled one appointment with the largest newspaper(Des Moines Register). It’s a first ever for Iowa, no senate candidate has ever done this Why did she clam up now? Because she didn’t want to answer whether she would really shoot a federal employee/armed violence against government who might take away her rights. And if the gov’t tries to implement the Affordable Care Act then federal officials should be arrested and/or shot.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/ernsts-extremist-remarks-become-an-issue-349739587715
“Ernst’s extremist remarks become an issue as election nears
Rachel Maddow reports on remarks made by Iowa Republican Senate candidate Joni Ernst about using her gun and arresting federal officials, and Ernst’s unusual avoidance of meetings with newspaper editorial boards in her state, cancelling scheduled meetings.”
Also noted in the video above you’ve got Sharron Angle(R-Nevada) who said she’d use guns to get what she wants in her attempt to win vs. Harry Reid…
“Sharron Angle, a Republican Senate candidate from Nevada in 2010, talking about “Second Amendment remedies” if conservatives didn’t get the election results they wanted. We also played tape of Joni Ernst, a current Republican Senate candidate from Iowa, saying she is ready to turn to armed violence against the government.”
“Black Guys Have Crappy Tastes in White Women”
Now, the filmer has been accused of racism.
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/10/30/19/18/catcall-video-producers-accused-of-racism
‘Catcall’ video producers accused of racism
Tbone… exactly what roll did the NRA play in this? I didn’t even see it mentioned in either event.
None-the-less, the NRA has something like 3,000,000 to 3,500,000 members.
Two divided by 3 million times 100 equals… ah… point zero zero zero zero 67 percent (.000067%)
In 2010, the first statistic at the top of search results, there were 5 foreign English teachers in Korea busted for drugs. There were about 22,000 English teachers in Korea at that time so…
Five divided by 22 thousand times 100 equals… ah… point zero 23 percent (.023%)
Interestingly, despite these small odds, you are guilty of both stupid speaking AND drug use.
You should join the NRA and buy a lottery ticket.
““Aspiring actress hit with 108 catcalls during NYC stroll”
Better headline:
“Black Guys Have Crappy Tastes in White Women””
Accurate headline:
“Unemployed NYC girl makes rent from paycheck by viral video marketing agency trying to bank off the loons over at Hollaback!”
“You should join the NRA and buy a lottery ticket.”
CH, you made my day with that one!! 😀
“Tbone… exactly what roll did the NRA play in this? I didn’t even see it mentioned in either event.”
You’re clueless and you can’t even add 1+1 in a non-mathematical sense.
They talk about guns and tout the “Second Amendment remedies” just like the NRA, now do you get it dummkopf?
“In 2010, the first statistic at the top of search results, there were 5 foreign English teachers in Korea busted for drugs. There were about 22,000 English teachers in Korea at that time so…”
Please site this stupid with a link because I don’t believe you. Your “search results” don’t equal facts stupid. See, you think 1(search results) + 1(a year, numbers of professionals) actually = something. Dummkopf!!!
Whatever you are/have been I’m sure would find members of that group busted for worse and at a much higher % in and outside S. Korea you f***** delinquent.
“Two divided by 3 million times 100 equals… ah… point zero zero zero zero 67 percent (.000067%)”
Now I’ll get technical, please show us your math 2 ÷ 3.000.000 x 100 = WHAT???
It’s not .000067%
What a dummkopf!!!
“Five divided by 22 thousand times 100 equals… ah… point zero 23 percent (.023%)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uRCKtaOCU
Joni Ernst: National Rifle Association (Lifetime Member) Military career(Wikipedia)…
Ernst has served a combined 21 years in the United States Army Reserves and the Iowa Army National Guard. She spent 14 months mobilized and overseas in Kuwait from 2003-2004 as a company commander at the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom.[4][6][7] Her unit was responsible for running logistical convoys in Kuwait and into southern Iraq. A Lieutenant Colonel, Ernst currently commands the largest battalion in the Iowa Army National Guard.[8][9]
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/abetteriowa/2014/10/29/joni-ernst-iowa-senate-not-real-deal/18085219/
“When you re-brand yourself and try to downplay your true beliefs, intentions and policies, you are not being honest. Ernst’s record speaks for itself. From supporting a personhood amendment to allowing outsiders to influence the possible outcome of this race, Joni is not the real deal.”
What, she supports the personhood amendment? Hahahahaha!!!!!
gatewaypundit.com has the scoop on the leftist nurse… who supports the President who quarantines US Troops but not leftist civilians… something she tried to hide, too late…
GOP&Personhood measure/amendment…
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/iud-is-not-an-ongoing-abortion-in-your-body-349733443628
An IUD is not an ongoing abortion in your body or an ABORTIFACIENT.
Dr. Stephanie Teal, of the University of Colorado Denver School of Medicine explains to people like Colorado Republican gubernatorial candidate Bob Beauprez, Pennsylvania cabinet-maker Conestoga Wood, and the Christian crafts chain Hobby Lobby, why an IUD is not an ongoing abortion in a woman’s body.
Or…
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/10/29/personhood-amendments-shake-up-elections-in-north-dakota-colorado
“Next week, voters in two states will consider ballot initiatives that would redefine what counts as a person, with anti-abortion measures geared to assert that a person’s rights begin as early as conception.
Colorado’s Amendment 67 will broaden the definition of “person” and “child” in terms of how the state approaches crime, and North Dakota’s Measure 1 would alter the state’s constitution to protect the “inalienable right to life” at “any stage of development.”
These so-called “personhood” amendments are by no means new — similar measures have failed in places like Mississippi, Florida, Nevada, and Alaska, and date back to attempts by federal lawmakers to add a personhood amendment to the U.S. Constitution in the 1970s and 1980s. However, North Dakota’s version could be the first of its kind to pass by ballot initiative.
While Colorado’s version stands to fail, it’s influenced other races in the state, and signals a new approach for the groups championing personhood measures, one that critics say hides the initiatives’ true goals from voters.”
Does this mean Tbone will be considered a person instead of a brown stain on the mattress?
Gas Prices
After Blaming Obama For High Gas Prices, “Fox Has Now Decided That Actually Low Gas Prices Are A Threat To America”
Fox News contorts to blame Obama for gas prices, high and low
Fox News busted for trying to find fault with President Obama in gas prices sinking to the lowest they’ve been in four years after spending considerable effort to blame him when prices were higher.
http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/10/29/msnbcs-rachel-maddow-blasts-foxs-hypocrisy-on-g/201374
Let’s see what else…?
Lindsey Graham promises results for white men
Sen. Lindsey Graham’s (R-S.C.) principal focus is probably on this year’s re-election campaign, which he’s expected to win easily, though the senator has also begun hinting about his national ambitions and plans for two years from now.
Context, of course, is everything in a case like this, and according to CNN’s report, Graham was speaking to an all-white audience earlier this month at an all-male club, which had invited the senator to deliver “irreverent” remarks.
“I’m trying to help you with your tax status,” Graham says in the recording. “I’m sorry the government’s so f***ed up. If I get to be president, white men in male-only clubs are going to do great in my presidency.”
And…
House GOP’s lawyers give up on anti-Obama lawsuit
More than four months after House Republicans announced their historic plan to sue President Obama, the litigation, like so many initiatives from GOP lawmakers, has become a fiasco.
For the second time in two months, a major law firm has backed out of an agreement to pursue the case, sources say.
Saying Hi To a Woman = Harassment? Yes According to Feminists (10 Hours of Walking In NYC As a Woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP1Vxu2erq4
Kim Jong-un was Looking At Things. In this case, it was a nursery.
There are two interesting points. First, he is holding a cigarette over a baby bed. That’s pretty crass.
Second, somebody arranged the stuffed animals behind him into doin’ tha nazty!
http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/30/something-about-this-photo-of-kim-jong-un-isnt-quite-right-4928448/
“Two divided by 3 million times 100 equals… ah… point zero zero zero zero 67 percent (.000067%)”
Now I’ll get technical, please show us your math 2 ÷ 3.000.000 x 100 = WHAT???
It’s not .000067%
What a dummkopf!!!”
…O.K., Tbone. I suppose it is possible I made a math mistake. What do YOU get as the answer?
“They talk about guns and tout the “Second Amendment remedies” just like the NRA, now do you get it dummkopf?”
I see. They talk about guns and the NRA talks about guns so… so… they are… are… uh. I guess I don’t see.
But wait. YOU talked about guns now… so that means you and them and the NRA are all… uh… well, you are all whatever you are based on whatever logic you are using at this moment.
I’m glad we cleared that up.
CH, as I’m sure you know, I’m pro-gun rights. I personally own something like 10 guns (they are of course in the US with my parents). I grew up in a house full of guns. All my neighbors had guns. One of my grandfathers was an avid gun and knife collector. Those weapons went to my dad and will eventually become mine someday. That said, I do not have any pictures of anyone in my family posing with their weapons (outside military photos). We were taught not to flash weapons around.
I have no problem with open carry, for example. If you are on your way back from the gun range, or hunting, or what have you, and stop in a 7-11 to get a Slurpee, or McDonald’s for lunch, I have no issue with that. But that is not what I see. I see a bunch of people using their weapons as a fashion accessory and/or political statement. It’s inappropriate and it would make even me uncomfortable, which I believe is part of their goal. I have no idea what level of training, nor the mental state of these persons.
Also, I have seen many self professed NRA supporters make statements that some of these school shootings were “false-flags” and faked by Obammy to stir up anti-gun sentiment. Of course it is hurtful to the families who have lost a child. Does the NRA leadership truly believe this? I doubt it. But, does the NRA attempt to disavow this BS and distance the organization from the members and individuals who espouse this nonsense? I haven’t seen it.
When I see the NRA today, I do not see my grandfather or the type of men I grew up around. I see Ted Nugent, Alex Jones, and the Duck F@ckers. Also, I’ve noticed the NRA now seems to be chock full of religious extremists. Not to say everyone in the NRA is an extremist, but they are a lot of visible and vocal extremists in the NRA. I do not care for those folks nor do I want to share in their company. Not to mention the CEO being a draft dodger himself. That carries a lot of weight with me. No sir, the NRA has lost its way.
GOP fakes crying, Charlie Baker(normally known as Mr. Non-Emotional/Faceless) in the Massachusetts gubernatorial campaign…
Charlie Baker Crying: REAL or FAKE [VIDEO]
http://www.kiss108.com/onair/matty-in-the-morning-4422/charlie-baker-crying-real-or-fake-12912529
“Posted Wednesday, October 29th 2014
Charlie Baker and Martha Coakley debated for the final time last night and things got emotional when asked about the last time they cried; Coakley said she cried Tuesday at a memorial service for a union organizer who had died of leukemia, (which claimed the life of her mother)—and Baker recalled meeting a New Bedford fisherman whose two sons earned college football scholarships but the fisherman told Baker, he told his sons they couldn’t go and had to be fishermen, following in their family’s footsteps.”
Tbone, when did you last cry?
When you thought you had two pubic hairs and then one peed?
How’s your math homework coming along. I’m still waiting for the correct answer.
Leon, you make great points.
I can’t say if the NRA encorages or simply tolerates the fringe element…
…or, just as in everything else, the media only pushes actions and opinions in proportion to the level of outrage they generate…
…as with pretty much everything, there are a lot of reasonable Democrats, Republicans, Tea Partiers, Occupiers, blacks, whites, liberals, conservatives, Christians, Muslims, etc., who get no airtime for their reasonable views on their pet topics.
I would speculate for every noisy nutjob in the NRA, there are many silent and normal people who simply want to be part of a larger group which works to block each slice in the Death by a Thousand Cuts strategy used against gun owners.
The NRA’s job is not to encourage or discourage the rantings of the tinfoil hat crowd. The NRA’s job is to protect all American citizens from those who would like to subvert a part of the Constitution.
A truth in reporting, government accountability, or mental health association is better suited to comment on those issues.
As for the CEO being a draft dodger, kindly provide a link that is not based on the speculations of the anti-gun crowd. He was an actual student when his number came up… so depending on your views on student deferment for actual students…
There are likely many men like your grandfather in the NRA… and they are likely the silent majority.
Regardless, the NRA has been effective at limiting unnecessary controls on firearm ownership by those who all-to-frequently maintain different standards in regards to their own armed protection… and is considered one of the three most powerful lobbying groups in America… which shows competent leadership and backing by a broad membership base.
…something to consider.
I hear you. Speaking of lobbying, I have a big problem with professional lobbyists in general, regardless of my support or lack thereof for the issues the lobbyists are lobbying for (or against). I think that system is broken as well.
The NRA could choose which members they disavow. Hell, Nugent is on the Board of Directors. As an organization, I do not see them making any attempt to separate themselves from the wackos. At worst they tolerate them, at best they (silently) embrace them. They have moved well past their original purpose and are now no more than an organ of the gun manufacturers. I’m not 100% sure, but I think my grandfather had also left the NRA quite some time ago.
Yes, I consider the student deferments draft dodging. It wasn’t much different than the well off folks in the civil war paying bounties. But in LaPierre’s case, he may have gotten a deferment for a “nervous condition.” I would think if that were untrue, he or the NRA would have answered that criticism and quashed the rumor. Especially since it works against his own argument for a national mental health database which would possibly preclude him from owning a gun! Once again, the silence is deafening.
Hmmm…
– Lobbying
Yeah. Broken beyond comprehension… and may be one of the little cuts that lead to the overall destruction of many things that are good about America as big money gets increasing influence over the will of the people… though people banding together to generate big money, such as the NRA, is a successful model, for many lesser issues the government keeps the citizens properly divided and unable to counter well-organized big business.
– NRA
I suspect you are right… the NRA is somewhere between toleration and (silent) embrace of the conspiracy theorists, far right, Christian extremists, et. al… as it builds membership and brings in the lobbying funds… that do, in fact, further the goals of the vast majority of members who work a 9 to 5, have 2.1 kids, and drive a Toyota minivan.
As for being an organ of the gun manufacturers… well… I am OK with that… as long as my goals (free to buy guns) and the goals of the gun manufacturers (free to sell guns) are in agreement. In reality, the quality and design of guns gets better and better while the price has remained affordable. I see no villains here. There is great pride in owning a gun collection… and, while it sounds more sinister than collecting other precision machines such as Swiss clocks or motorcycles, the reality is gun collectors aren’t the ones out shooting each other over who will get the corner to sell crack on.
– Draft Dodging Via Deferment
That is all before my time… so I’m not really sure how it all worked out when there was a need for soldiers but also a need for students. I suppose the stupid and the poor went to Vietnam in larger numbers than the rich and the smart. I suspect it’s easy to sit back and criticize a teenager for wanting to go to college instead of joining a highly unpopular war and risking getting his guts blown out by some pajama-wearing zipperhead in a muddy swamp for dubious gain.
Nugent, like John Wayne, didn’t go to war and then compensated by waving the flag harder. That could be looked at as regretfully doing their part after-the-fact or just shameful overcompensation.
I suspect with so many powerful enemies, the rumors of LaPierre’s “nervous condition” would have long ago been dug up if there was any truth to them… as there would exist a record… and an NRA-hating liberal politician or bureaucrat would have long ago gleefully leaked it. The silence is likely there because there is no need to deny such a completely groundless rumor any more than there is reason to deny rumors of being a midget or owning an illegal elephant.
– In the End
I don’t really care… as long as the government stays over in its corner and quits trying to make one-size-fits-all policies. I have never owned a gun which committed more crime or hurt more people than much of Washington D.C. or Wall Street does on a daily basis with a pen.
North Korea to quarantine foreigners for 21 days over Ebola fears
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/30/north-korea-cracks-down-on-ebola-threat-with-stricter-monitoring/
An announcement distributed to foreign diplomatic missions in Pyongyang said that, regardless of country or region of origin, all foreigners will be quarantined under medical observation for 21 days.
It said foreigners from affected areas will be quarantined at one set of locations, while those from unaffected areas will be sent to other locations, including hotels. It said the staff of diplomatic missions and international organizations in North Korea will be allowed to stay in their residences.
Beijing bonfire as runners forced to complete marathon in gas masks
An estimated 30,000 runners take part in Beijing’s ‘airpocalypse’ annual marathon despite “hazardous” levels of smog(VIDEO).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11172396/Beijing-is-like-a-bonfire-as-runners-forced-to-complete-marathon-in-gas-masks.html
But for next weeks Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation(APEC) forum in Beijing, which begins November 5 China is cancelling school for 1 week, closing down factories, etc…
http://tech789.com/china-to-close-factories-during-apec-to-curb-pollution-beijing/
Also../the Hong Kong Protesters are Eyeing the Beijing Summit.
Andy, we know…And hey look, the link below is dated the same day as your link.
https://www.rokdrop.net/2014/10/north-korea-reportedly-closes-border-due-to-ebola-fears/
I think there is probably a racial propaganda angle to the whole Ebola in NK issue, For example the regime propaganda could be playing up the dirty foreigners and their diseases trying to pollute the pure Korean blood and the quick action of Kim Jong-un has stopped the virus from coming to NK.
In what must have taken years of preparation and foresight, the North Koreans for decades have purposely driven their country towards strict totalitarianism and abject poverty among its masses. All to ensure that when one day ebola reared its ugly head and spread across the globe, there would be too few tourists to pose an actual threat of letting in the virus.
I don’t know what their secret is, but they are light years ahead of the rest of the world. Well played North Korea, well played.
‘Bout god am time!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/01/mexican-judge-orders-jailed-marine-andrew-tahmooressi-freed-family-spokesman/
‘Bout god am time!
Thanks to Obama! What else has Obama done wrong? Because of him the gas prices have decreased(ruining the economy), the unemployment rate is below 6% and the stock market reached record highs this month. Down with Obama says the GOP, he has ruined everything because GOP’s are now questioning whether a high stock market is good for GOP’s. Hahahahaha!!!!! Heck, Obama even “ruined healthcare” even though it’s a non-issue with almost all GOP candidates today. What else? Oh yeah, he stopped a war or two, what a puke face that black man Obama.
Everything that Tbone said except exactly the opposite.
Tbone, how is your math homework coming?
CH, everyone can look above at your own evidence that you don’t know math, similar to S. Koreans and their statistics on foreigners. You also have a difficult time with common sense or putting two things/events etc…together and coming up with an obvious conclusion. Perhaps you should do the math yourself instead of hoping I do it for you you sloth.
What is your job again? Well whatever it is it’s obvious that a former ESL teacher can put the math slam down on you stupid.
O.K. Maybe I am wrong. Do the math. Show your work.
…otherwise, go get your shinebox.
It doesn’t matter who wins Senate because of the filibuster by the minority party.
Denny: Plus they won’t have enough votes to override a veto so business as usual.