ROK Drop Open Thread – November 1, 2015

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ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

They caught the guy burning churches.

As expected, he was an active Republican Klan member who has campaigned for gun rights and spoken out at anti-Obama rallies.

What’s that?

He was actually a black guy with the improbably stereotypical last name of Jackson?

And his full name is David Lopez Jackson… perhaps making him one of those dreaded black-Hispanics.

This hardly fits the narrative. I’d need to see a link for that.

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_98672cca-39ad-54d9-9ab5-67905b4ff4ad.html?mobile_touch=true#.VjOXKdehY3I.twitter

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

Bonus 1: Tbone’s head esplodes.

Bonus 2: White people who set fires are racist and need punished. Black people who set fires are mentally ill and need support. I did not know that.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Retired USAF Lt. Col. William Astore calls the United States on the belief that we’re “liberators.” 😆
Astore: “We’re Not Heroes, We’re Imperialists”
Shame on servicethemselfmembers & conthemselftractors for their participation in America’s DOD Imperialism ❗
http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176061/tomgram%3A_william_astore%2C_taking_selfies_in_iraq_and_afghanistan
Tourists of Empire
America’s Peculiar Brand of Global Imperialism
“The United States is a peculiar sort of empire. As a start, Americans have been in what might be called imperial denial since the Spanish-American War of 1898, if not before. Empire — us? We denied its existence even while our soldiers were administering “water cures” (aka waterboarding) to recalcitrant Filipinos more than a century ago. Heck, we even told ourselves we were liberating those same Filipinos, which leads to a second point: the U.S. not only denies its imperial ambitions, but shrouds them in a curiously American brand of Christianized liberation theology. In it, American troops are never seen as conquerors or oppressors, always as liberators and freedom-bringers, or at least helpers and trainers. There’s just enough substance to this myth (World War II and the Marshall Plan, for example) to hide uglier imperial realities.

Denying that we’re an empire while cloaking its ugly side in missionary-speak are two enduring aspects of the American brand of imperialism, and there’s a third as well, even if it’s seldom noted. As the U.S. military garrisons the planet and its special operations forces alone visit more than 140 countries a year, American troops have effectively become the imperial equivalent of globetrotting tourists. Overloaded with technical gear and gadgets (deadly weapons, intrusive sensors), largely ignorant of foreign cultures, they arrive eager to help and spoiling for action, but never (individually) staying long. Think of them as the twenty-first-century version of the ugly American of Vietnam-era fame.”

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@ 1& 2,
If only white people hadn’t set The Boston Tea Party example of destroying property. And to think that those white people(dressed up like Native Americans) weren’t protesting/destroying ALL that property over white people murdered/discrimination/racism, it was just about $$$. 🙄

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

The Philippines is part of an American empire?

Hmmm.

There is something to learn every day.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

The White Boys Beavis and Butthead must’ve taught Mr. Jackson about pyromania 💡

“David Lopez Jackson, 35, was charged Friday afternoon with two in a string of seven church fires this month. He also is reported to be suspected of trying to burn a relative’s home along the 5300 block of Wilborn in Jennings, a source said. Police responded to a call for an attempted arson there shortly after 4 p.m. Thursday.”

Or…Mr. Jackson was just disguising his act(the white man has a history of burning black churches and lynching black people on trees outside churches and like EGGHEAD was afraid of/thinking…”The White Man did it”) as a white man thing.

And…Mr. Jackson must’ve learned about the disguise thing(blame the white man) from white people who dressed up like Native Americans during The Boston Tea Party ❗

However, Mr. Jackson is not guilty yet. The difference is…the black man Mr. Jackson won’t have a black prosecutor who defends him like how white cops get white prosecutors defending them instead prosecuting them/doing their JOB. 🙄

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Perhaps EGGHEAD missed the title that included “tourists” and “peculiar” ❓

‘Tourists of Empire: America’s Peculiar Brand of Global Imperialism’

How many countries is America in ~ do servicethemselfmembers & conthemselftractors currently receive easy money(i.e. S. Korea) ~ USA government DOD paycheck?
Answer: 160

I’d call that USA Imperialism 😳 Past and Present Servicethemselfmembers & Conthemselftractors still go whoring in the Philippines 😯

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Where are all the servicethemselfmembers & conthemselftractors at praising, glorifying, thy Obama’s feet washing/kissing for his entry into Syria further providing Socialism(jobs) for ya’ll ❓
“Inside Assad’s Syria”
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/inside-assads-syria/

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

If a black person does bad things, it’s because of the Boston Tea Party.

If a black person does good things is it because of Mother Teresa or St. Jude’s Hospitals?

Are black people capable of thinking for themselves?

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

I don’t know about anyone else here but I think it’s fairly obvious that America’s missteps over the past 15 years have led to the situation in the Middle East. That’s missteps from presidents of both parties.

Bush’s war plans destabilized the region to begin with. Obama’s support of the Arab Spring was the nail in the coffin that threw a lot of stabilizing dictators out of power. Now things aren’t any safer for the people of those countries or for the U.S.

We will be dealing with these issues for a long time.

There is a rift in the Republican part on the issue of Syria. At the risk of being called an isolationist, I submit that we should take less of a role in the affairs there. Backing the rebels was likely a mistake as we probably don’t have a good idea whether they are jihadists or not. In the beginning, if not helping Assad we should have stayed out of his way and let him bring a quick end to the conflict if he was able. I fear our support for the rebels has only drawn out the conflict and given ISIS a chance to grow.

The red line on chemical weapons really was an idiotic thing to say.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

Middle Easterners fighting each other keeps them from fighting us.

Perpetual war is good for the Republican-Democrat Political Complex and their backers.

When the global financial system needs a reset, the people of the Middle East will pay.

Everything is going according to plan, more or less.

And…

How did the Boston Tea Party come up?

Who knows…. must have something to do with something else.

Tbone is an idiot.

Did you all hear that it was a black guy burning the black churches?

Black Lives Matter… excet to other blacks.

Blacks fighting each other keeps them from fighting us.

Perpetual race conflict is good for the Republican-Democrat Political Complex and their backers.

When the United States gets a financial and/or societal reset, the blacks will have the worst time of it… and their forced labor will solve many problems.

In other news, Tbone is an idiot.
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tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Hundreds of officers lose licenses over sex misconduct
Cops are not only murderers but rapists, sodomites, pedophiles, etc…just like servicethemselfmembers & conthemselftractors 😳
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/11/01/hundreds-of-officers-lose-licenses-over-sex-misconduct/21257058/
“OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Flashing lights pierced the black of night, and the big white letters made clear it was the police. The woman pulled over was a daycare worker in her 50s headed home after playing dominoes with friends. She felt she had nothing to hide, so when the Oklahoma City officer accused her of erratic driving, she did as directed.

She would later tell a judge she was splayed outside the patrol car for a pat-down, made to lift her shirt to prove she wasn’t hiding anything, then to pull down her pants when the officer still wasn’t convinced. He shined his flashlight between her legs, she said, then ordered her to sit in the squad car and face him as he towered above. His gun in sight, she said she pleaded “No, sir” as he unzipped his fly and exposed himself with a hurried directive.

“Come on,” the woman, identified in police reports as J.L., said she was told before she began giving him oral sex. “I don’t have all night.”

The accusations are undoubtedly jolting, and yet they reflect a betrayal of the badge that has been repeated time and again across the country.

In a yearlong investigation of sexual misconduct by U.S. law enforcement, The Associated Press uncovered about 1,000 officers who lost their badges in a six-year period for rape, sodomy and other sexual assault; sex crimes that included possession of child pornography; or sexual misconduct such as propositioning citizens or having consensual but prohibited on-duty intercourse.

The number is unquestionably an undercount because it represents only those officers whose licenses to work in law enforcement were revoked, and not all states take such action. California and New York — with several of the nation’s largest law enforcement agencies — offered no records because they have no statewide system to decertify officers for misconduct. And even among states that provided records, some reported no officers removed for sexual misdeeds even though cases were identified via news stories or court records.”

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

GOP candidates need more time to respond to questions(BORING, YAWN) during debates along with softball questions by only fellow GOPers. If only they would actually debate the issues and debate how Obama has done this…
http://reports.weforum.org/global-competitiveness-report-2014-2015/
The World Economic Forum just released their world competitive ranking, which measures a host of economic data and determines which countries are the most economically competitive. And among countries with populations of 10 million or more the United States was, oh, #1. Among all countries, we’re #3 behind Switzerland and Singapore.

Yes, we’re beating China and Japan all the time. Bet you won’t hear that in the Republican debates.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

GOPers should also debate how and which of their wannabe president hopefuls could do what Obama did in the past 4 years. Obama cut spending from 24% GDP to 20% GDP.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Liberal Moderators Out says Ted Cruz. What’s next liberal voters? Hey, let’s just annihilate all liberals, non-whites, etc…so that the GOP can finally win a presidential election 😆
http://www.politico.com/blogs/live-from-boulder/2015/10/debate-ted-cruz-cnbc-moderators-215306

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Paul Singer Billionaire Behind Swiftboating Kerry supports Cuban Marco Rubio. Poor Jeb Bush ❗
Hillary will eat Rubio for breakfast ❗
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/31/us/politics/paul-singer-influential-billionaire-throws-support-to-marco-rubio-for-president.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
One of the wealthiest and most influential Republican donors in the country is throwing his support to Senator Marco Rubio of Florida…,
…In a letter that Mr. Singer sent to dozens of other donors on Friday, which was obtained by The New York Times, Mr. Singer described Mr. Rubio — who was elected to the Senate in the Tea Party wave but has been embraced by the party’s Washington elite — as the only candidate who can “navigate this complex primary process, and still be in a position to defeat” Hillary Rodham Clinton in a general election.”

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Saudi Arabia To Russia & Iran: Get Out Of Syria
http://www.ibtimes.com/saudi-arabia-russia-iran-get-out-syria-2163933
“Saudi Arabia Saturday demanded that Russia and Iran withdraw all military forces from Syria, where the two countries have intervened on behalf of President Bashar Assad in the country’s continuing civil war, Reuters reported. Saudi Arabia, which supports rebel fighters opposing Assad’s regime, Friday participated in talks in Vienna with Russia and Iran to negotiate a way toward a resolution of the war.

“Our two points where…”

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@ 10
“Bush’s war plans destabilized the region to begin with. Obama’s support of the Arab Spring was the nail in the coffin that threw a lot of stabilizing dictators out of power. Now things aren’t any safer for the people of those countries…”

You sound like Obama(support) was the cause of the Arab Spring 🙄 So you’re for dictators like EGGHEAD’s Putin etc…aye ❓ There always has to be a beginning and the Arab Spring was a good thing, if only the other Arab countries could follow in the footsteps of Tunisia. It will just take them longer to form an Arab democracy like Tunisia.

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

I prefer the dictators over Islamic extremists and at this point I would say the people of Iraq, Syria, and Libya do as well.

Egypt seems to be doing okay, but only after they threw out Morsi when they figured out he was trying to implement a stricter interpretation of Islamic rule instead of the more secular style the people were accustomed to.

I guess sometimes you just can’t tell how things are going to turn out. In some cases, that might be a good reason not to engage in something. Does anyone truly believe that supporting the Arab Spring was a good idea and turned out to be a gain for the U.S.?

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/oct/31/russian-passenger-plane-crashes-in-egypts-sinai-live

I’m suspicious as to the cause of crash for this airliner. There are supposedly a lot of missiles unaccounted for dating back to the overthrow of Qguadapfhiey. I wonder if they will find explosive residue. I wonder if we would hear about it if they did.

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

As a counterpoint, Saddam was a brutal dictator. Perhaps the most brutal in the region.

Was that a good place to begin as well?

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

White Notre Dame coach ‘forced African-American scholarship student to have sex with her daughter in return for academic favors’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298937/White-Notre-Dame-coach-forced-African-American-scholarship-student-sex-daughter-return-academic-favors.html

TagumCity Tim
TagumCity Tim
9 years ago

If it weren’t for Chickenhead and TboneTyler these Open Threads would be oh so boring wouldn’t they? Hehehehe.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@10
Please explain how Obama’s “support” was the “nail in the coffin” for the Arab Spring when Wikipedia doesn’t mention such a thing. 🙄
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

It wasn’t the nail in the coffin for the Arab Spring.

It was the nail in the coffin for the dictators providing stability in the Middle East and northern Africa.

It wasn’t an ideal situation, but it was better than what is going on in many of those places currently.

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

I do believe that less innocent people would have died in Syria if Assad wasn’t stifled by the international community in the early days of the war. If you think about it, a long drawn out conflict has been a disaster for everyone. The EU nations are being pushed to the limits trying to take in all the refugees that might have still been in their homes if the civil war was over already.

From your comments I gather that you support U.S. intervention in foreign countries that are led by dictators. Would that be a fair assessment?

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@25,
“It wasn’t the nail in the coffin for the Arab Spring.

It was the nail in the coffin for the dictators providing stability in the Middle East and northern Africa.

It wasn’t an ideal situation, but it was better than what is going on in many of those places currently.”

Good Grief JonnyBoy, you’re such an EGGHEAD FanBoy that you copy his excessive use of the word “it” 🙄 Please rewrite those sentences without using the word “it.” 🙄

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

WTF is it EGGHEAD & JonnyBoy ❓

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

So no substantive reply to my comments or answer to my question?

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@29,
So you can’t read either aye? I suggest you have someone translate my comment #24 to you so that maybe you can answer that question before you fail at explaining your abuse of the word “it” similar to EGGHEAD 😳

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

The U.S. support for the Arab Spring helped to destabilize the middle east.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@ 10 & 25 JohnnyBoy

“Obama’s support of the Arab Spring was the nail in the coffin that threw a lot of stabilizing dictators out of power. ”

Was it or was it not the “nail in the coffin” you DUMBSOBEGGHEAD no. II 🙄

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Yes. It took a bad situation that may or may not have returned to stability and essentially plunged the middle east into uncertainty, leading to Islamic extremists taking power in many locations.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@31,
How ❓
You DumbSOBEGGHEAD no. II 🙄

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

WTF JohnnyBoy, first you say it was the “nail in the coffin” then you say it wasn’t 🙄

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Libya is a prime example, wouldn’t you agree?

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

I said it was the nail in the coffin for stability in the middle east.

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

I hope I have explained myself to your satisfaction.

Maybe we could talk about the advantages and disadvantages of U.S. intervention in foreign conflicts and have a discussion on our opinions on that matter.

P.S. Are you watching the World Series this evening?

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Perhaps you have logged off for the evening. I have enjoyed our back and forth and look forward to continuing our discussion at your convenience. Have a good night.

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

GI, can we start looking for troll-ish folks who use fewer upper case “ad hominems”? I mean, Paint-chip was fun for awhile; but he’s really turned from divergent into predictably dull.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@36,
“Libya is a prime example, wouldn’t you agree?”

No, it is not a “prime example” ❗ Why don’t you stop ignoring Tunisia? You can’t blame Obama for supporting the Arab Spring. That’s just ignorant, what did you expect Obama to do place 3+ USA military bases in each of those countries? One doesn’t need to do that to “support” something elsewhere.”

@37,
“I said it was the nail in the coffin for stability in the middle east.”

Let’s see…”it” means Obama’s “support” for the Arab Spring was the “nail in the coffin”? If so then of course NOT, I thought I already expressed how stupid I thought that statement was ❓

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@40,
Read comment #23 dummy 😎 And stop interrupting Johnnyboy and I, setrudenaffa 💡

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

“leading to Islamic extremists taking power in many locations.”

This is a good thing.

America needs an enemy. Fascists and communists have played themselves out… mostly because American government, politics, and society seems to have absorbed instead of annihilated these ideologies.

But Islamic extremists, relegated to bit players for so long, are a wonderful new threat once given entire nations with unaccounted-for military hardware and weak controls on nuclear ambitions.

The American people now have a scary new focus when its time to justify expensive new weapons systems.

Plus, apart from a few insignificant attacks on city slickers in Europe and maybe the USA, all the real fughting will be done Over There.

The Arab Spring was a wonderful thing in so many ways… and, as a bonus, oil is still cheap as shyt.

It really restores my faith in American foreign policy.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Keystone Pipeline Off Table with TransCanada requesting application to be suspended so Sit Down & Shut Up GOPers. The new Canadian Prime Minister is for the Environment while also being for the Keystone pipeline so it’s left to bank on a GOP president in 2016. Canada will lose that bank 😆
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/11/02/world/ap-cn-canada-us-pipeline.html?_r=0

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

911 Responders Cut with GOP Slashed Funds in GOP proposed bill. GOP saving money off the backs of George W. Bush “Keep Us Safers.” 😆

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

43 million US dollars spent on DOD gas station in Afghanistan…
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/02/afghanistan-43m-gas-station-colossal-waste-us-taxpayer-money/
“The Department of Defense spent $43 million to build a gas station in Afghanistan that should have cost roughly $500,000, the lead oversight team monitoring U.S. spending in Afghanistan has found. The discovery came as part of a broader investigation into allegations of criminal activity within the DOD’s premiere program to kick-start the Afghan economy.”

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

“The Department of Defense spent $43 million to build a gas station in Afghanistan that should have cost roughly $500,000, the lead oversight team monitoring U.S. spending in Afghanistan has found.”

This is why we don’t win wars.

This, and a million other things, go on right under the noses of generals… sometimes with their participation.

It is convenient to blame politicians for everything… but the reality is too many military “leaders” are more interested in keeping things going so they can build more 43 million dollar gas stations and then retire to a consulting job for gas station construction companies than they are at winning wars.

The politicians are doing the same thing, too.

Andy
Andy
9 years ago

Students showing no respect for teacher:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=581_1446436696

I don’t understand how this teacher could let this crap go on in her classroom.

Andy
Andy
9 years ago

^^

I had to look up that school- CVCA – Chicago Vocational Career Academy

The “award-winning” Culinary Arts Program at CVCA prepares students for employment opportunities in the culinary and hospitality industry. Students learn food preparation, cooking and baking techniques, recipe development,leadership and communication skills as well as sanitation procedures and best practices. In addition, students are granted the opportunity to earn industry recognized certifications.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

School for EGGHEAD GOPers on its non-immigration action, lies, and hypocrisy…
Paul Ryan can’t trust Obama
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/heres-what-happened-when-paul-ryan-was-asked-to-give-just-one-republican-idea/
“In every one of those interviews, the host elected to move on, rather than to challenge what Ryan had said, despite ample basis for such a challenge. The letter Ryan agreed to said nothing about President Obama‘s “trustworthiness,” it said that both legal and illegal immigration are hurting Americans. More than that, though, Ryan’s charge against President Obama is complete garbage.

President Obama didn’t try to “write the law,” he used executive action in the same way that many white presidents have (or should I say “non-inner-city” presidents), a distinction that a journalist should try to make. even if you think that action was overly broad.

Ryan’s answer also ignores the fact that President Obama only took executive action after House Republicans blocked a bill that had passed the Senate, which had more than enough votes to pass the House, and which contained everything Republicans say they want. Paul Ryan calling President Obama “untrustworthy” is like Darth Vader saying he can’t work with Luke Skywalker because he took unilateral action on Death Star Reform.

But even under its own logic, Ryan’s answer makes no sense. Congress is one of two checks on executive power, so if Obama really is tyranting all over the joint, the only thing Congress can do about it is pass a law. It’s like saying you won’t take over bartending from Bill Cosby because you don’t trust Bill Cosby…

…But then, there’s the exception that proves the rule, as with Ryan’s interview with Chuck Todd of Meet the Press. In a particularly revealing exchange, Chuck tore apart Ryan’s promise of a stuff-accomplishing new day in Congress by asking him for just one idea that Ryan’s House can take action on to impress the American public. Ryan had just finished rattling off his “we need to be a proposition party, not just an opposition party” bit for the ninetieth time, when Todd tripped him up by asking for just one of those propositions. Ryan even tried “We can do more than just one thing” as an opening gambit, but Todd cleverly parried by again asking him for just one:

…You can almost see Ryan blinking “H-E-L-P M-E” in Morse code, because even if he did have one idea, just one, that he could work on with the President and the Democrats, it wouldn’t be safe for him to say it out loud. Despite his talking points, Ryan’s job isn’t to unite the country or the Congress, it’s to synchronize Republicans against Obama, to make their anti-immigrant, anti-minority, anti-woman, pro-billionaire agenda more palatable.

Unfortunately, we have a news media that refuses to challenge Republicans on their lies, or even to call them lies. Instead, we get dutiful stenography for Paul Ryan, and 13 minutes of grilling on one subject for Hillary Clinton, for example. When supporting your “both sides do it” narrative requires you to be this one-sided, maybe it’s time to switch things up.”

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

“I don’t understand how this teacher could let this crap go on in her classroom.”

The teacher had no choice. All she can do is talk… and talk doesn’t work on a large percentage of this population… empowered by an Obama/media-fueled message that claims calls for civility is racism and forced civility is abuse… with rewards of both cash and status for minor injuries while being civilized and infamy for being killed in the commission of a felony.

Security wants nothing to do with this… as the only reward for bringing order to disruptive negros is a firing, civil suit, nation-wide knee-jerk condemnation, and the DOJ dropping important investigations to put a legal team looking into how to manufacture federal criminal charges.

Tbone claims to know how to manage theae situations easily. While I used to look up to Jesus, I now ask “What would Tbone do?”

What would you do, Tbone?

…other than run your biitch mouth with unrelated nonsense until everyone lost interest due to boredom or confusion.

So will the media support this disruptive, jive-talking negro as is done in other cases when whitey takes care of business and restores civilization? Or does a black teacher balance it all out so that it becomes a non-issue… best left ignored like the daily senseless black-on-black violence that happens in between the infrequent cases of over-hyped yet justified white-on-black violence?

Who cares. Statistically, this guy will commit crimes against other blacks and be in and out of prison until he finally has to stay there… or he will get killed.

I feel really sorry for the teacher… trapped in a situation with no solution regardless of what all the armchair critics would like to demand answers for… while being painfully short on answers.

Liz
Liz
9 years ago

CH for President!!!!

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Tbone, do you think U.S. intervention in Libya was a good thing? What advantage did we gain from Quadaffi’s ouster and murder?

If I’m ignoring Tunisia, are you ignoring Syria, Iraq, Libya, and Yemen?

Liz
Liz
9 years ago

Tunisia is doing GREAT!
http://worldaffairsjournal.org/content/analysis-tunisian-journalists-trapped-between-government-forces-and-extremist-groups

They won a Nobel Peace Prize so 9 out of 10 nighttime talkshow comedians agree it must be true!
(of course, it’s all relative…compared to Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen and all that they are doing swell)

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

“What if we’ve already had the reformation of Islam and jihadism is it?”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/153256/re-moderate-muslims-mark-steyn

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

Spirit Airlines accused of racism for removing 7 black passengers from flight

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/7-fliers-kicked-spirit-airlines-plane-blame-racism-article-1.2421533

Denny
Denny
9 years ago
Denny
Denny
9 years ago

She said that men from sexually conservative countries often struggled to understand how to interpret the behaviour of young Scandinavian women, adding: “It’s difficult if you come from a country where women never go out.

“When you see a girl with a short skirt dancing at a party late in the evening, what kind of message will it give you?

“It’s important to tell them that this kind of behaviour or clothing doesn’t mean that it’s allowed for you to go the whole way. If a girl says ‘no’, it’s a ‘no’.”

Liz
Liz
9 years ago

Spirit charges 100 dollars for a carry on bag. They suck for that reason. Bastardies.

Per muslim immigrants in Sweden, It would seem to me the burden should be on the immigrant to understand the culture of the nation he or she is immigrating to (or hoping to house and protect them).

Liz
Liz
9 years ago

I have a friend who lived in Qatar for three years. She is Asian (Korean), and was treated with deep contempt because people in rich nations in the Middle East associate Asian women to be either childcare providers or prostitutes. She was once followed by a member of some elite branch of Qatar (apparently you can tell by the black SUV) with her three children in the car. She was very afraid and went straight to the base to call her husband.
She was very very respectful of the culture in Qatar, and that’s the best case scenario of the wife of a Colonel stationed at Qatar. Imagine if a person went on a criminal rampage there. I don’t have to imagine. I know…a friend told me he watched as a couple of his drunken RAF buddies stole a car for fun in (the UAE if I remember correctly). It was a porche and it was running with the keys in the ignition. So on a lark they took it with a female USAF officer in tow also. They left it at the curb a few miles away. And found themselves in chains in prison shortly after, scheduled to have their hands removed. But the US had influence and since the USAF chick was also involved they pleaded for clemensy for the RAF guys too. And they received it. Moral there: It’s good to be powerful, and it’s good to have powerful friends.
If they had been some dregs of society demanding housing and protection while attacking the people and violating the laws of the country arbitrarily because “my culture is different” I’m pretty sure things would have worked out differently for them.

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

One really needs situational awareness overseas. And to understand some cultures are always butthurt, always angry, always out to destroy freedom.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Chris Christie plays a desperate, shameful race card and will still never, ever be president
Christie is falling behind, so he’s fear-mongering on crime. It won’t help him, but it will hurt the country
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/03/chris_christie_plays_a_desperate_shameful_race_card_and_will_still_never_ever_be_president/
“Chris Christie is languishing in the Republican presidential primary polls—even John Kasich is beating him in the latest polling data—so it’s not surprising that he’s throwing his Hail Mary pass. But boy, is it a distasteful one. Christie is now trying to win Republican voters over with the old Richard Nixon playbook of playing on white, suburban fears of “urban” crime.

Barack Obama has been making moves to address the problem of over-incarceration and police violence in our society, by releasing non-violent drug offenders and pushing employers to be more open-minded about hiring people who have done time. He made this speech in New Jersey, and so naturally, Christie just had to respond. As Talking Points Memo reports, he’s not being very subtle about it:

…Why Christie is doing this isn’t a big surprise. Huge chunks of the Republican base live in constant fear of crime and mindlessly applaud police violence, the excesses of the war on drugs, and over-incarceration as a response to that fear. This fear has no real attachment to actual risk of being a victim of crime, but continues to be what it was when Richard Nixon’s Southern strategy to capture the white vote banked heavily on the phrase “law and order”: A socially acceptable way for racist white people to express fear that people of color are out to get them.

…”The problem is that the city Christie believes is devolving into a dystopic nightmare actually had one of the safest summers in years. But Christie pooh-poohed that, because conservative fear-mongering on crime isn’t really about crime, but just about perpetuating fears of big cities, racial diversity, and liberalism generally.

The detachment from reality has only grown more bizarre, as Christie went on Face the Nation last Sunday, once again saying that, “There’s lawlessness in this country. The president encourages this lawlessness. He encourages it.” Then there was this bizarre and unsettling exchange between Christie and host John Dickerson:
…”

Read the Rest AND watch Chris Christie video at the very end, you’ll thank me later ❗

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Cop Handcuffs 7yrold At School
MON, NOV 02
A Michigan mother is furious over the treatment of her young son. WEYI’s Dave Bondy reports.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/7-year-old-handcuffed-at-school-557169731511

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

JohnnyBoy you will not believe it, the U.N. is supporting central Yemen at an Al Qaeda stronghold after cyclone. OMG, how dare the U.N. 🙁

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Hi Tbone,

My question may have been lost in the thread.

Do you think U.S. intervention in Libya was a good idea? What advantage did we gain from Quadaffi’s ouster and murder?

If I’m ignoring Tunisia, are you ignoring Syria, Iraq, Libya, and Yemen?

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

‘the phrase “law and order”: A socially acceptable way for racist white people to express fear that people of color are out to get them.’

…because the term “law and order” only appeals to white voters. Blacks, by nature, are disorderly and all engage in unlawful behavior… so the very idea of an orderly society where people fallow laws is distasteful and racist.

…or did I misunderstand the point of the statement.

The best way to stop racism is to expose fake racism.

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago
setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

@63, You are aware Michigan is run by Democrats, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint,_Michigan#Politics

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

‘Pay ONE BILLION ransom or they will kill us’ Canadian hostages in desperate plea for their lives following Filipino jihadi death threat

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3303241/Pay-ONE-BILLION-ransom-kill-Canadian-hostages-make-desperate-plea-lives-Filipino-jihadists-hold-knife-throats-new-death-threat-video.html

‘We urge, we beseech the Canadian government to please, please help us and the Philippine government so that negotiations can start about their demands.’

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

Male-on-male rape in the military is 15 times more prevalent than the Pentagon are reporting, according to a new study

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3303087/Male-male-rape-military-15-times-prevalent-Pentagon-reporting-according-new-study.html

Liz
Liz
9 years ago

That’s awful, Denny. 🙁

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Megyn Kelly laughing at GOP Crybabies and Ted Cruz wants a foot massage
Republicans whined about debate moderation, but it ended up backfiring by showing what fussy crybabies they are VIDEO
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/04/ted_cruz_wants_a_foot_massage_even_megyn_kelly_is_laughing_at_gop_crybabies_now/
Now The Daily Show is on it, with Trevor Noah highlighting how Republicans claim they are all so tough but actually want to “babyproof the whole election from top to bottom.”

“What happened at that CNBC debate that transformed this crew from The Expendables into the cast of Scooby Doo?” Noah asks, before running a reel demonstrating that candidates are all running from having to answer questions about their actual policy ideas.

But what is really brutal, from a Republican perspective, is how the “crybaby” narrative jumped from liberal circles to conservative circles. Megyn Kelly on Fox News has been going after the candidates hard for their persnickety debate demands, asking if they also want a “foot massage.”

When Ted Cruz argued that only Republicans should be allowed to moderate Republican debates, Kelly highlighted how absurd it is to think the largely conservative moderators, including herself and Bret Baier, are secret liberals.

Fox News also saw Andrea Tantaros taunting the Republicans, saying, “They also asked for 1,000 count sheets, white lilies, and white candles in the room.”

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

“Do you think U.S. intervention in Libya was a good idea?”

What “intervention” are you talking about, the no-fly zone? I’m against the DOD and its War Hawks & Dogs, socialistic jobs bill, but for slashing the DOD jobs program especially in South Korea. If you haven’t been able to gather what I think about large numbers of boots on the ground/wasted $$$ spent in the 160 countries the DOD have besieged themselves upon for decades (stupid “servicemembers fighting strategy” in Afghanistan bombing mountain tops/hills and the ILLEGAL IRAQ WAR(then you deserve the EGGHEAD label. The problem is that you blame Obama for his support of the Arab Spring you EGGHEAD. 🙄
Marco Rubio ~
Prominent[48][49] Tea Party supported US Senator Marco Rubio of Florida said the U.S. was right to support the Libya no-fly zone[48] and accused the Obama Administration of being too prudent in its military engagement in Libya.
John McCain ~
Along with Senator John McCain, Senior United States Senator Joe Lieberman called for the imposition of the no-fly zone[42][43] saying, “The fact is now is the time for action, not just statements.”[44]

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Tea Party Senator Wonders Why We Have A Senate
DUUUHHHHHHH ❗
Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse thinks we’d be fine with just a House of Representatives.
‘What would be lost if we had only a House of Representatives?’
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/tea-party-senator-questions-senates-existence-what-would-be-lost-if-we-had-only-a-house-of-representatives/
“The Tea Party lawmaker said, during his first speech on the Senate floor, that he spends most of his weekends back home in Nebraska, where he has discovered “the people despise us all.”

“Why is this?” Sasse said Tuesday, 364 days after his election. “Because we’re not doing the job we were sent here to do. The Senate isn’t tackling the great national problems that worry those we work for.”

He slammed his fellow Republican “grandstanders” for using their elected office to promote outside business interests, and he attacked Democrats for doing “this body harm through nuclear tactics.”

Conservatives, including Sarah Palin, enthusiastically cheered his suggestion to possibly eliminate the U.S. Senate.

“This is why we respect this guy … his guts and gumption in expressing what many Americans recognize as a foundational problem resulting in an insolvent, less sovereign nation — …”

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

Does tbone dislike the Lieutenant-Governor-elect of Kentucky? If so, is it because she is the first Black elected to statewide office in that state? Would he rather old white men ran the country?

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Pataki: Global Warming Is How GOP Will Connect With Latinos And Millennials
Former New York governor and Republican presidential hopeful George Pataki likely won’t get anywhere with the GOP wingnuts who vote in primaries with this kind of stupid logic.
Sadly, believing in science isn’t going to help.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pataki-climate-change-debate
“Former New York Gov. George Pataki (R) slammed the GOP for its refusal to admit the existence of climate change and said that Republicans too often “question science that everyone accepts.”
“One of the things that troubles me about the Republican Party is too often we question science that everyone accepts,” Pataki said at Wednesday’s GOP undercard debate, when asked about his belief that climate change is caused by human activity.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/richard-dawkins-disgraceful-that-gop-candidates-believe-in-creationism/
The GOP also doesn’t believe in math/factual statistics and ALL but one GOP presidential wannabe candidate does not accept/believe in evolution.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@68,
” You are aware Michigan is run by Democrats, right?”

So you’re deflecting blame on the cop and blaming democrats for a 7 year old boy being handcuffed at school ❓ 😆 🙄

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Correction: Black Boy

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@68 setnaffa,
“You are aware Michigan is run by Democrats, right?”

You don’t really know very much about MIchigan do you?
Rick Snyder(R) Michigan CURRENT Governor
Brian Calley(R) Michigan CURRENT Lieutenant Governor
Ruth Johnson(R) Michigan CURRENT Secretary of State

Koch-Republican Austerity Is Killing Michigan Democracy And Poisoning Residents
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/10/koch-republican-austerity-killing-michigan-democracy-poisoning-residents.html
“…Indeed, the idea of fiscal responsibility and, to a greater extent, austerity became successful buzzwords for Republicans complaining loudly that the nation was suffering under crushing debt they only noticed the minute a Democrat occupied the White House.

That debt and deficit fear-mongering success led to the election of so-called fiscally responsible and austerity-minded governors in 2010 that promptly used every means at their disposal to enact Draconian spending cuts; not to reduce state debts and deficits, but to fund tax cuts for corporations and the rich. One of the means employed by Michigan Governor Rick Snyder to impose austerity on the state was appointing “emergency financial managers” to run cities like dictators with unchallengeable power.

Today there are numerous Michigan cities and school districts run by one “state-appointed” Koch acolyte under Michigan’s emergency manager law enacted by governor-turned-dictator Rick Snyder; all under cover of every economy’s death knell – austerity. Of course, it is austerity meant only for government and the population; not the rich or corporations. The idea of imposing harsh cost-saving measures is a nothing more than cover for a democracy-killing fascist coup by Koch Republican Governor Rick Snyder.

Some Americans may recall that Snyder’s dictatorial power-grab under the guise of Republican austerity does much more than abolish democracy by stripping residents of their local voting rights and voices; it gives Snyder’s appointed demi-gods unquestioned power to do any and everything that strikes their fancy including, but not limited to, eliminating a city’s charter, dismissing democratically-elected officials, shuttering schools, and ending services the emergency manager deems too costly such as delivering safe drinking water. It is, according to Snyder, all in the name of good old Republican “fiscal responsibility” and austerity politics; something Snyder traverses the nation to spread to all 50 states.

Snyder launched a national tour, “Making Government Accountable: The Michigan Story,” to ‘sell‘ democracy’s demise in Michigan to the rest of the country. His tour was funded by a “secret” nonprofit that is, naturally, secretly funded by a group of ‘undisclosed’ donors advocating for austerity and small government. As a clue to which undisclosed donors are paying Snyder to promote Michigan’s drive to abolish democracy, it is relatively well known that Snyder is a highly-regarded American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) operative (the Kochs fund ALEC).”

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@68 setnaffa,

Shall I go on you EGGHEAD ❓

Bill Schuette(R) MIchigan CURRENT Attorney General
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Schuette
William Duncan “Bill” Schuette (/ˈʃuːtiː/ SHOO-tee;[1] born October 13, 1953) is an American Republican politician and the Attorney General of Michigan.[2]
In 2011, Schuette filed suit to close two Michigan abortion clinics on grounds of improper record disposal.[8]
Before the Supreme Court’s 2015 decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, Schuette fought against same-sex marriage.[9]
On August 19, 2015, Schuette endorsed Jeb Bush for president.[10]
Schuette is widely believed to be eying Michigan’s Governor Mansion.[11]

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Next Time setnaffa get your stinky stuff straight before you blah blah blah like EGGHEAD and Jeb Bush

setnaffa for handcuffing 7 year old black boys at school 😯 ❗

Michigan’s Republican Governor Rick Snyder Signs Draconian Bill Into Law
Gov. Rick Snyder signed the much despised emergency financial manager legislation in to law today, giving him far too much power over the people in his state. Even the power…
http://www.politicalruminations.com/2011/03/gov-rick-snyder-and-michigan-republicans-engaging-in-disaster-capitalism.html
…to ignore the will of the people and the votes they cast. The local ABC affiliate reports:
http://www.politicalruminations.com/2011/03/michigans-republican-governor-rick-snyder-signs-draconian-bill-into-law.html

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Hello there Tbone,

Do you believe a no-fly zone and cruise missile strikes count as foreign intervention?

Was the ouster of Quadaffi good for the U.S. or even for Libyans in general?

Setnaffa
Setnaffa
9 years ago

Regardless of recent changes in the satate capitol, Flint Michigan has been run by Democrats since the 1930s. And all the middle-school invectives you can contrive won’t change the fact. The cop works for Democrats. Just like the guy who threw the girl across a classroom. Just like the cops in Baltimore. Just like the White House guards who shot the confused black woman who drove the wtong way.

One doesn’t see this type of behavior in places run by libertarians or even Republicans.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

Johnnyboy you’re pathetic, you eek out tidbits of your right-wing Benghazi type talking points then focus on only Obama. You hate Obama, I get it. I don’t care you hateful bastard. But why did you skip your first step…”Bush’s war plans destabilized the region to begin with.”

How about I rehash Bush and his worst presidency of all time in American history? Shall I start with 9/11? Tell us why Bush failed to protect America after 9/11? And then after you answer it, I’ll debunk your question/innuendo instead of just playing off of it as you’ve only been able to do to my answers. I’m tired of teaching you English, you better shape up or ship out ❗

Answer this Johnnyboy…Why did Bush destabilize the region as you say?

Now, after you answer that…If you want me to respond to your stupid questions then you’ll have to start providing links instead of playing off of my answers to your stupid questions after I’ve answered them AND given you how/what/where I think about the DOD no matter who is president you EGGHEAD 🙄

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@83,
You are ignorant of the facts whether mathematical/scientific(You’ve been schooled by Tbonetylr) which I just debunked you on you ignoramus ❗ Quack on you ugly duckling.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@83 setnaffa EGGHEAD says…
“Regardless of recent changes in the satate(sic) ~ what poisons under his sink is he inhaling?) capitol,”

What does “recent” mean to you? This 7 year old black boy was handcuffed at school by a white cop who lost his handcuff keys only days ago. WTF or why the F*** do you want to go back to 2011? For that matter why do you want to back to as you say…”Flint Michigan has been run by Democrats since the 1930s”?

What has the 1930’s got to do with a white cop only days ago got to do with handcuffing a 7 year old black boy ❓

setnaffa had better see a shrink ASAP ❗

Rick Snyder(R) Michigan CURRENT Governor
Assumed office
January 1, 2011

Liz
Liz
9 years ago

Prostitution to pay off student loan debt:
http://professorconfess.blogspot.kr/2015/11/prostitution-to-eliminate-student.html

“Yes, even those “cheap” community colleges bury students. CNN fails to ask a question about that, how it doesn’t seem to matter what kind of school, state, for-profit, or community college, victims end up stumbling out after a few years, deep in debt. We’re looking at schools in Michigan, Kentucky, and Nevada, and it doesn’t matter where, our higher education system is creating legions of victims.
(snip)
We’re told, from a very young age, that education is everything, that education is the path to riches, that no price is too great to pay for higher education. I’ve quoted a few Poo Bahs of higher education saying as much, when they’re not grunting about “leadership” as a means to increase growth.
(snip)
Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to sound elitist here, and it’s no business of mine how another person makes a living but…you don’t need a college degree to be a prostitute. Yes, there is a glut of sex-related courses for sale on our campuses, but such courses are not offered so that we can have better prostitutes. Those courses are offered because they sell well; they have minimal at best educational value, but our “leaders” don’t care about education, they care about sales growth.
These people aren’t going into higher education to become prostitutes…they’re going into prostitution because of higher education, and that’s the issue CNN has missed.

It isn’t simply that we’ve been lying to our children about the “unarguable value” of education to the point that our kids honestly believe sitting in any classroom for anything is worth any price, it’s that our higher education system is literally forcing people into prostitution…to improve their lives.

So, absolutely, I agree with CNN, kudos to the pimp for helping his prostitutes out. But maybe CNN could do a little investigative reporting and show just how predatory so many of our institutions of higher education have become? Even if our schools weren’t so predatory, how can one claim higher education is incredibly precious when the prostitutes of the United States not only have college degrees, but remain prostitutes because their degrees are worthless?

We’re told as taxpayers, that we need to fund higher education to improve our country. The result of that funding is a student loan and higher education system that is now creating prostitutes. If this isn’t a good enough reason to end the student loan scam, what would be?”

It is to weep.

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Tbone,

I’m sorry if my questions have caused you distress.

Apologies if you got the impression that I support Bush or his actions in the middle east. 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. That will always be inexcusable. I suspect you and I agree that the Iraq war was a terrible decision and its handling was a disaster. I’m not sure of the intentions of the Bush administration. It is possible that Iraq was going to attempt to abandon the petrodollar and the U.S. didn’t like it. Whatever they were, I have long doubted it was because an imminent credible threat to the United States.

So, do you think that U.S. intervention in Libya was a good thing for the U.S. or the Libyan people? What did we gain by our actions?

MTB Rider
9 years ago

How did this site convert from ROK Drop to TBONE Drop?

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

Former President George H.W. Bush SLAMS Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld in new biography over their reaction to September 11 terrorist attacks

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3304630/Former-President-George-H-W-Bush-raps-Cheney-Rumsfeld-biography-Fox-News.html

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

United States of Obesity: Mississippi again named America’s fattest state as Hawaii ranks as the leanest

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3304609/United-States-Obesity-Mississippi-named-America-s-fattest-state-Hawaii-ranks-leanest.html

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago
ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

“It is to weep”

What is there to weep about? I don’t care for your femanocentric attitude, Liz.

As long as student debt keeps the price of anal short-time under the cost of a credit hour for some worthless Comparative Fallatio 101 class, who are we to complain.

I will just help her with her student debt and maybe help with the homework as a bonus.

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

“11-year old hero”

Getting hit by a car doesn’t make anyone a hero.

That WAY overused word should be reserved for those who willing put themselves in peril to do some good deed…

…this can be financial, emotional, or physical peril.

People who do their jobs or save their own azzes and bring others with them are not “heroes”… even though they did something good for others… and there needs to be an honorable word for this.

People who get screwed over while doing nothing special are certainly not heroes. Victims or Unfortunates are probably better words.

An 11 year-old hit by a car under noticeably vague circumstances is probably not a hero…. he was probably an idiot lollygagging around in a place reserved for cars. The person who hit him, even though she was black as well, has likely watched enough news to know that sticking around a hit black kid will probably draw a crowd of extended family who are quick to become violent.

I could be wrong. She could have been checking ROK Drop on her phone and jumped a curb.

…but the complete lack of details about just how he got hit, the lack of a mention of checking for alcohol (as is done whenever an unusual accident happens), and the focus on hit-and-run rather than the hit, indicates to me the hitting wasn’t really her fault.

Bonus: What good is an autopsy when all the cool organs have been donated?

Liz
Liz
9 years ago

Liz walks up to streetwalker and asks, out of curiosity, “Hey, do you have an advanced degree?”

Ho: “Sho do Honey! I’m a philosophy ho. Got my doctorate. They call me Philly and not ’cause I’m from Philadelphia!”

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

https://twitter.com/spectator/status/662179673351315456/photo/1

No Problem! Russia, Iran, and ISIS can defend Europe…

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

Folks not willing to wait for a government handout or corporate bureaucracy build their own internet service… http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/

@95, the 11 year old is a hero because he saved his sister from the car. Similar to diving on a grenade in a foxhole to save others.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@95,
“the lack of a mention of checking for alcohol (as is done whenever an unusual accident happens)”

WTF are you talking about you stupid EGGHEAD ❗ Asiana flight 214 pilots were NEVER checked for drugs/alcohol after S. Korean pilots crashed and killed people in San Francisco, CA.

I could go on…Sewol?…The “captain” was NOT checked for SoJu etc…:roll:

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@9 Johnnyboy,
“If a black person does good things is it because of Mother Teresa or St. Jude’s Hospitals?

Are black people capable of thinking for themselves?”

Congrats, you’re now a know racist ❗

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@ 25 Johnnyboy says…”It wasn’t the nail in the coffin for the Arab Spring.
It was the nail in the coffin for the dictators providing stability in the Middle East and northern Africa.”

So Johnnyboy…Why “wasn’t it a nail in the coffin” for the Arab Spring?

After you explain your own comment above and/or my questions, perhaps you’ll be accepted as a native English speaker but I’m guessing you’ll wait for someone to help you type English…Why(JohnnyBoy) was it “the nail in the coffin for the dictators providing stability in the MIddle East and Northern Africa?” HInt, you’ll need to research numerous contries to support your answer you D*MBF*CK ❗

You must also provide links with explanations to explain yourself dummy self you dummy EGGHEAD 😆

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

@91,
United States of Obesity: Mississippi again named America’s fattest state”

Mississippi is a GOP led state ain’t it? Well then, we can blame the GOPers in Mississippi ❗

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

@102, we blame Obamacare…

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

“EWTF are you talking about you stupid EGGHEAD ❗ Asiana flight 214 pilots were NEVER checked for drugs/alcohol after S. Korean pilots crashed and killed people in San Francisco,

“the NTSB defers to the countries in which the air carriers are based.”

“I could go on…Sewol?…The “captain” was NOT checked for SoJu etc…:roll:”

Didn’t happen in America.

“@95, the 11 year old is a hero because he saved his sister from the car. Similar to diving on a grenade in a foxhole to save others.”

I see that now… still call bullshyt. Every article about this is short on fact and big on hero manufacture. The media frequently selectively reports, misrepresents facts, and omits details to promote a narrative… and my feeling is this is an example.

Because of the lack of details of where the kids were, the low bond for the driver, the charges against the driver relating to running rather than the accident, crime scene photos with evidence tags almost all in the road, etc., no witnesses to this quick-to-report pushing the sister out of the way, etc… it sounds like bullshyt.

…probably is.

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Greetings Tbone,

The phrase “nail in the coffin” implies something that causes failure for something that was already damaged.

I didn’t say Obama’s support was the nail in the coffin for the Arab Spring because that would imply his support ended the Arab Spring. I was making the opposite statement.

His support of Arab Spring uprisings were the nail in the coffin for dictators providing stability in the middle east. His support supported the Arab Spring. Support doesn’t put the nail in the coffin of the things it is supporting. Support supports the things it supports.

I made this statement because of U.S. intervention in Libya and Syria as well as vocal support for regime change in other middle eastern and north African countries. I usually prefer that my government not play a role in other nations’ affairs, especially when it doesn’t benefit the U.S. somehow, and when the people in charge don’t seem to be able to predict the ramifications of their meddling.

Do you like our government intervening in other nations? Do you feel like Libya is a success story for Obama’s foreign policy record? What has our nation gained from Quadaffi’s ouster? What have the Libyan people gained? As a fan of the President and of the Arab Spring, I have to believe you have a well thought out answer to these questions.

What specifically would you like me to provide a link to, my friend? I will make an honest effort to satiate your undying hunger for the truth.

As always, I appreciate your courteous and thoughtful responses.

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Tbone,

On your charge of racism, I was asking a legitimate question.

If blacks doing bad things can be attributed to whites, then when blacks do good things is it also because of the actions of whites?

I certainly don’t ascribe to that line of reasoning. I think each individual is responsible for their own actions.

I think a far more racist notion is that black people act only under influence of white people. I believe that was the crux of your argument wasn’t it?

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

KKK Name List Released and a Missouri Police Chief, EGGHEAD, JohnnyBoy, setnaffa, etc…are on it ~
Anonymous, the loosely knit collective of hacktivists, kept their promise to release the identities of at least 1,000 members of the Ku Klux Klan on Thursday. The Grand Dragon KKK is responsible for Ferguson Missouri and other Missouri officers are Ghoul Members(silent members) of the KKK.
http://freakoutnation.com/2015/11/opkkk-keeps-their-promise-releases-names-of-kkk-members/
While reading the long list of names, I came across a Pastor Nathan Rocheleau who is an alleged member of the Fraternal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
Tick tock. The world knows who you are.
http://pastebin.com/wbvP95wg
Checkmate!

ChickenHead
ChickenHead
9 years ago

Lists aren’t worth much.

Barack Obama and whitehouse.gov email appear at least seven times in the Ashley Madison hack.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/ashley-madison-president-white-house

While, unless one has an angry gorilla fetish, Michelle Obama is a rather unattractive lay, it is hard to believe Obama signed up with Ashley Madison with his real name and email address…

…or that public figures signed up with the KKK using their real names and email addresses.

Wait… maybe there is something to it. I just got a list of people who love to whack off to pictures of their mom… and Tbone Binks is at the top of the list.

Denny
Denny
9 years ago

VA wrongly tells 69-year-old Vietnam War veteran he’s dead and cuts off his benefits despite the fact he’s still alive

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3305597/VA-tells-veterans-theyre-dead-cuts-benefits.html

Denny
Denny
9 years ago
Liz
Liz
9 years ago
MTB Rider
9 years ago

But, is it Art? The COAX Mall is getting a new sculpture, based on the “Horse Riding Hands” of Pop Superstar Psy.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34744836

I… I can’t think of any follow up comment.

setnaffa
setnaffa
9 years ago

@111, TSGT Allmon’s photos inspired folks that were–or had relatives–in the service. So of course he deserves strict punishment for being boorish at Minot! I mean, look at the charges:

“A Washington Times examination shows that, over a 14-month span, the women’s accusations, in total, amount to three kisses and six touches, plus a series of reported inappropriate comments of a sexual nature. If the married Sgt. Allmon did what the women said, he was tastelessly hitting on them.”

Those poor delicate little snowflakes!!!!

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Hi Tbone,

I hope you are well today, My last comments may have gotten buried in the thread. You could scroll up and read them but the basic gist was this:

Please specify what you would like me to provide a link to and I will gladly make an honest effort to aid your quest for all things true,

and

I asked what the United States or the people of Libya gained from Quadaffi being removed from power and murdered.

tbonetylr
tbonetylr
9 years ago

JohnnyBoys 20 comments without 1 link. You’re worse than EGGHEAD, at least he gives a link once in a while. I’d like to know what you’re talking about rather than reading the air in your head 🙄 You suggest this/that and other things without links so it’s obvious you’re just repeating AND BELIEVING no matter what without any searching for yourself but to only add 2nd parts to your questions after I answer the first part ~ BORING ❗ ) GOP talking points. Who is your ghost writer JohnnyBoy ❓

#31 JohnnyBoy “The U.S. support for the Arab Spring helped to destabilize the middle east.”

PLEASE provide a link to support your claim you JohnnyBoy EGGHEAD ❗

If you think the U.S. destabilized the entire middle east then what has the U.S. done to the 130 countries = 900 overseas bases? Wikipedia says USA has military and paramilitary personnel in 181 countries.

#53 “Do you think U.S. intervention in Libya was a good idea? What advantage did we gain from Quadaffi’s ouster and murder?”

I already answered your question(s) since nobody cared about your question without question marks in your comments #19 & #21.

Hey Johnnyboy, do you think U.S. “intervention” into S. Korea was a good idea?

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

Hi Tbone,

I thought the military campaigns in Libya and Syria, aid for rebels in Syria, and Obama’s support for regime change in other nations were common knowledge, but if you require links I am happy to provide them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/28/us-aid-to-syrian-rebels_n_2780864.html

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/05/19/remarks-president-middle-east-and-north-africa

As far as the U.S.’s global military buildup, that should probably best be looked at on an individual basis. If a country is an ally and wants or allows a U.S. military presence within their borders, and it provides an advantage to our country’s interests, I don’t see a problem with that. I believe South Korea fits into that category.

I haven’t seen you provide your thoughts on whether or not intervention in Libya or Syria was a good idea or what the U.S. or the people of those nations gained from our actions. If you did, could you direct me to the comment number, copy and paste it, or state it again? I am interested in your thoughts.

johnnyboy
johnnyboy
9 years ago

I have a comment waiting for moderation.

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